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Gazelle · Aug 19, 2007

Philippians 1:7
Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.

AG · Aug 19, 2007

StarJewel said:
How do you know that?

its common sense honey

read the Bible

MartinM · Aug 19, 2007

Breetai said:
I'm pretty sure he didn't "forget" what he'd been saying for years.

No, he simply changed his mind. People do that. Doesn't make them liars, merely human.

Gazelle · Aug 19, 2007

Psalm 94:22
But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge.

Time2BCounted · Aug 19, 2007

MartinM said:
No, he simply changed his mind. People do that. Doesn't make them liars, merely human.

If they say one thing and do another in consistant form this makes them NONliars?

*Starlight* · Aug 19, 2007

Breetai said:
I'm pretty sure he didn't "forget" what he'd been saying for years... It was no mistake.

So, do you think Erwin said what you have in your signature with the intention to go against it eventually? Only then it could be called a lie.

Breetai said:
Sure, the Christ of the BIBLE! Not some space alien, as I described.

To follow Christ from the Bible a person doesn't have to use the Bible as the only source of knowledge about Christ, and doesn't have to treat the Bible as an infallible source of knowledge. Have you heard of the Jesus Seminar?

Followers4christ said:
Easy God wants us as the body of Christ to come together as one body and have fellowship with one another.We can not unite ourselves with unbelievers who will try to tear down our faith in Jesus Christ.God Bless

Actually, most non-Christians I know are good people and aren't interested in converting everyone around them, so I have no problems fellowshipping with them.

Gazelle · Aug 19, 2007

Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved.

Nadiine · Aug 19, 2007

MartinM said:
And yet again, forum specific rules can prevent that. If you want a safe haven, make one. It's in your hands; that's what the rules system introduced on 777 means. Posting over and over about things you don't like achieves nothing. You can have the safe haven you desire, but only if you act to make it happen.

So, then, why did he bother to add a new "faith" section that doesn't even cover the very basics of what Christianity is if he wants to call this a "christian based site"???

What would make it Christian are the little hovels of Christians that create their own little exclusive hideouts in various areas??

You can't seem to come to grips that Christianity got shoved into the backseat - his format was FINE as it was! Why do you think so many stayed here?
It just needed some fine tuning of some rules & the preamble.
PROBLEM SOLVED.

Instead, he opened it to chaos - there's no definition of even any BASIC beliefs of Christianity; it got erased and blurred the lines and PURPOSE of this site which was originally, predominantly and OPENLY "Christian" based.

Now he just allows Christians to make up cliques & clubs out in the back 40.
It has drastically changed, that's why so many Christians are so upset... I highly doubt that this large majority are all wrong and blind.

Gazelle · Aug 19, 2007

Psalm 89:18
For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.

AG · Aug 19, 2007

Brennin said:
That is as it should be. Athanasian Christians can retreat to their congregational bunkers if they cannot weather richly deserved criticisms of their absurd Christology.

we have enough challenges in reality. We came here to have peace and unity, and for at least once, not protecting what we believe in, but just believing

AG · Aug 19, 2007

MartinM said:
No, he simply changed his mind. People do that. Doesn't make them liars, merely human.

ill say that i will go an buy you a chocolate, but came back home with ice cream for myself, doesnt that make me a liar?

Gazelle · Aug 19, 2007

Isaiah 4:5
And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.

MartinM · Aug 19, 2007

Time2BCounted said:
If they say one thing and do another in consistant form this makes them NONliars?

StarJewel said:
So, do you think Erwin said what you have in your signature with the intention to go against it eventually? Only then it could be called a lie.

Precisely.

Gazelle · Aug 19, 2007

Psalm 62:6
He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved.

MartinM · Aug 19, 2007

AG said:
ill say that i will go an buy you a chocolate, but came back home with ice cream for myself, doesnt that make me a liar?

Rather depends whether you intended to buy me the chocolate when you said so, and why you didn't actually do so in the end.

When I was a child, I swore I'd never get married. If I actually marry, does that make me a liar? Or does it just mean that when I was younger I honestly believed something, and later changed my mind?

AG · Aug 19, 2007

Gazelle said:
Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved.

AG · Aug 19, 2007

Nadiine said:
So, then, why did he bother to add a new "faith" section that doesn't even cover the very basics of what Christianity is if he wants to call this a "christian based site"???

What would make it Christian are the little hovels of Christians that create their own little exclusive hideouts in various areas??

You can't seem to come to grips that Christianity got shoved into the backseat - his format was FINE as it was! Why do you think so many stayed here?
It just needed some fine tuning of some rules & the preamble.
PROBLEM SOLVED.

Instead, he opened it to chaos - there's no definition of even any BASIC beliefs of Christianity; it got erased and blurred the lines and PURPOSE of this site which was originally, predominantly and OPENLY "Christian" based.

Now he just allows Christians to make up cliques & clubs out in the back 40.
It has drastically changed, that's why so many Christians are so upset... I highly doubt that this large majority are all wrong and blind.

I could not express myself better, thanks!

Tychicus2 · Aug 19, 2007

MartinM said:
And yet again, forum specific rules can prevent that. If you want a safe haven, make one. It's in your hands; that's what the rules system introduced on 777 means. Posting over and over about things you don't like achieves nothing. You can have the safe haven you desire, but only if you act to make it happen.

What many don't seem to get is, at least in theory this was a Christian site with some areas open to ALL...

It appears to be becoming a Secular Site with the possibility of a few safe havens for Christians...

The direction has changed and a new course is plotted... the flawed matrix was set in place on 7/7/7 and the name change is a manifestation of the new matrix... the so called *christian* principles that Erwin speaks about deal with *how* the site will function as he sees it... they are NOT the foundation upon which this site will be built... He has removed any semblances of the Christian foundation in favor of his new matrix...

I believe the new matrix is fatally flawed in that it assumes non-Christians can and will be guided by Christian principles...

Erwin comes to his Christian senses...

Ty

Time2BCounted · Aug 19, 2007

MartinM said:
Rather depends whether you intended to buy me the chocolate when you said so, and why you didn't actually do so in the end.

When I was a child, I swore I'd never get married. If I actually marry, does that make me a liar? Or does it just mean that when I was younger I honestly believed something, and later changed my mind?

You dont believe in God, you have your way here at the board now that Erwin changed it for you. What i find hypocritical about you is the stink you would most likely raise if the owner of an atheist site suddenly got saved and changed it to a christian site after YOU put YOUR money into it. (Waiting for your denial)

Brennin · Aug 19, 2007

AG said:
we have enough challenges in reality. We came here to have peace and unity, and for at least once, not protecting what we believe in, but just believing

Your 'peace and unity' came at the cost of consigning other Christians to a ghetto. I do not harangue Athanasian Christians in their congregational fora but I enjoy participating in the theology fora and I would not support regressing to the ghettos of yore.

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