again sir you didn't read the medical citations. What is pornography w/o masturbation? It's nothing. Masturbation is a stimulation that is not like vaginal penetration. Nothing really is similar at all. Typically one who is masturbating will climax relatively quickly and this is because they have reprogrammed their stimulus to accept that type of feeling. With a marital bed you can slow down and hold off to make it last longer and longer, so that both will climax. There is really no comparison. Then when they meet up with a real person they are inefficient. They are not able to maintain an erection with a real woman because they have programmed their body to react only to their hand. When I was self gratifying I got to the point where I could climax so quickly it did not even have time to get an erection. THAT IS NOT GOOD! That means your body realizes that it doesn't need to make an erection because it realized you will just climax anyway. This is disregardless of porn. So again doing unhealthy things is a sin. If drugs are sinful simply because they are unhealthy, then so to if masturbation is the leading cause of erectile dysfunction in young men, and if it's God's will that we be fruitful and multiply. Then masturbation is going against God's will .
Well if God wanted me to have children He wouldn't have made me a cripple with hereditary diseases.
But beside the point, pornography is nothing without masturbation? Are you kidding? Pornography is lust that isn't even in the imagination anymore, and drives people to acts of fornication and adultery. Pornography is a huge source of human trafficking and is a cause of misery even among the performers, especially when it drives down to child pornography where children are manipulated or forced into these acts with adults and it physically can cause them a lot of pain and lasting physical and psychological harm. You're comparing THAT as not being as bad as touching yourself willingly? I've found no medical literature that masturbation causes ED btw, only old wives' tales and myths.
You have to boil down why is fornication and adultery sin, why is lust sin. It's because it causes us harm and turns a gift from God into a vehicle of suffering, an insult to the Almighty who gave the gift. It's to be an act of love and creating families.
But outside of marriage, it creates unwanted children who are not raised right and spiral into a lifestyle of further sin for generations, it creates children that are often killed off either in abortion in the modern days or infanticide/human sacrifice to molech in earlier days.
It is also a vector for disease, the more sexual partners you have the more likely you are to spread disease.
and finally, outside of a loving marriage, sex can be weaponized and used as a means of violence and control, taking something good that God made and using it directly for evil.
Now why are lust and pornography sin?
Because they steer people into acts of fornication, rape, and adultery, and as I said earlier, production of pornography is destructive to people's lives, spreading disease, they ARE acts of fornication or adultery, many fetishes rely on violence in the act, most of the "actors" are addicted to drugs and pursue other crimes and sins as a part of that lifestyle, they may go homosexual as part of their "career".
the story of one of the most famous pornographic actors, John Holmes, is pretty telling in all the ways that Pornography destroys people. He was born in a broken family, in an adulterous affair with an alcoholic stepfather. He later got married THEN started doing porn films (so right off the bat he's committing adultery), some of the films he was in were homosexual in nature his wife would later find out, he got addicted to cocaine, was dealing drugs as well, and as a result of some drug dispute, participated in the murder of four people. He later contracted HIV, but was still continuing to act in pornographic films, unprotected, and probably infecting a lot of other people before his health nosedived and he died of AIDS. So even just in the production of pornography you see a man committing adultery, homosexuality, drug abuse, and murder, and the harm that results the destruction of his own body and the spreading of disease.. and it all started with an act of adultery.
So you can't tell me pornography is nothing without masturbation.
You also when you claim that vaginal sex and masturbation are not physiologically the same and that in fact masturbation is harmful where vaginal sex is not, it's like you're encouraging fornication as the better option if given that or masturbation, and that is wicked.
Masturbation by itself does not spread disease, it does not create children in broken homes, it does not create violence against other people. About the only way it by itself is sin, is that it's wasting time you could be doing something else good, the same way playing a video game, watching a movie or TV show, or reading a book that isn't the bible is sin when you could be doing something for God.
But lemme guess it'll cause blindness and hair to grow on people's palms as well?
