Forgivness

[TwilightSparkle]

I was talking to a hardcore Christian about my life and some of the darker sides were brought up. I had been molested and raped and their response to this made me angry and ill to my stomach - they said that I shouldn't worry that Jesus would FORGIVE ME.

They saw me sinning somehow in that.

Is this a common view?

 

[Faulty]

No, that's Islam that finds the rape victims guilty. Things like this: 14yr Old Rape Victim Beaten to Death by Islamic Court | Fort Liberty

What the Lord will do is forgive you of your own sins and even give you the power to forgive those who have wronged you. Like He said, He came to set the captives free, and also for the sick, the hurting, the wronged, and the oppressed, those who know they have been wronged and done wrong. He did not come for those who consider themselves "good enough" on their own.

 

[Joshua260]

I was talking to a hardcore Christian about my life and some of the darker sides were brought up. I had been molested and raped and their response to this made me angry and ill to my stomach - they said that I shouldn't worry that Jesus would FORGIVE ME.

They saw me sinning somehow in that.

Is this a common view?

Wow. First, let me say that I'm deeply sorry that you went through that.

I don't see how what happened to you could at all be attributed to a sin you committed. That is certainly not my view.

 

[cerette]

No.
Are you sure you understood the person correctly?? Sounds odd indeed.

 

[Rattus58]

I was talking to a hardcore Christian about my life and some of the darker sides were brought up. I had been molested and raped and their response to this made me angry and ill to my stomach - they said that I shouldn't worry that Jesus would FORGIVE ME.

They saw me sinning somehow in that.

Is this a common view?

If I wasn't meant to be charitable, I'd almost suggest that you're trolling.

Christians are not to be Judgemental, God does the Judging. We all sin, and we all need to ask for forgiveness for our sins, but this is true of all of us.

Aloha..

 

[ebia]

I was talking to a hardcore Christian about my life and some of the darker sides were brought up. I had been molested and raped and their response to this made me angry and ill to my stomach - they said that I shouldn't worry that Jesus would FORGIVE ME. They saw me sinning somehow in that. Is this a common view?

Very worrying if you ask me.

 

[bling]

No!
Biblically you are still a virgin.

 

[TwilightSparkle]

No trolling and I'm very serious.

I had to walk away from the person, it made me so mad.

The circumstances in which I was raped were as followed. I was at a party and someone slipped something into my drink, I wasn't drunk or anything, it was my first and to be my only beer. I was over 21, normal house party, nothing illegal. I remember feeling very drunk, then sleepy, then it got harder to move or talk. The guy I was with carried me to a room and that's when it happened. People at the party just thought I had been drinking too much because there were a number of people that had been.
I remember some of it - I remember not being able to resist but asking to stop.

I hate to get into too much detail but I remember him doing things and it feeling good - something that caused me a lot of pain afterwards. I had been a virgin... in the sense that I had never had intercourse. Being molested warded me away from sex so I just hadn't been interested in it unless it was with someone REALLY REALLY REALLY worth it - like a husband who was beyond awesome... but even then it would be iffy.

If it hadn't been for the roofie I would have screamed and fought but I just couldn't.

I blacked out before it ended.

I went through the whole legal process - of course the guy said I consented but being a virgin actually won me favor. He is now a registered sex offender

The molestation - no details with that other than it involved a sick family and other children.

This is the same story I told them and in their eye I really was at fault for something that needed forgiveness.

I knew it sounded extreme but I've heard some politicians and pastors spout the same nonsense so I wanted to see if it was a popular view.

 

[joey_downunder]

Someone actually said that to you?!!!! :o God would forgive YOU for your RAPIST's sin (against you)?

If that person is actually a Christian I cannot believe how they could read the bible and reach that stupid conclusion.
Too bad whether you had had alcohol or not - that is no excuse for what happened to you.

 

[football5680]

No. The only way I could see them come to that conclusion is if they believe that God only curses people with abuse like that because they are sinful. Simply reading the book of Job disproves this. We are not promised happiness or a great life on Earth, this is what we will receive in Heaven.

 

[whitebeaches]

No, this is not a common view. However, and this is sad to say, there are some Christians who believe that way and they will actually show scripture to. I dont blame you for being angry. I wouldve been too. You were not at fault and nothing you did or did not do caused it. You were a victim and not responsible in any way for his actions.

Im truly sorry you were told that. ((( hugs )))

 

[PsychoSarah]

For someone to say that, regardless as to their religion, is disgusting. It is never the victim's fault that they were a victim.

I wish that sex offenders were castrated. The real ones, not the morons who pee in public.

 

[~Anastasia~]

I'm so sorry to hear of what happened to you, and also sorry for how you were treated afterward. It makes me angry for your sake too.

No, that is not a common view, not to my knowledge. I'm sure there are pockets out there that may teach something like that, but having been to MANY MANY kinds of churches and denominations, I don't believe any I have ever seen would say that. It certainly isn't Biblical.

I thought your thread was going to be about YOU forgiving the ones that did it to you. Which of course you should do, really for your own sake so that you aren't made bitter by the whole thing. Now someone has judged you for it as well, and given you something else to forgive in that they have offended you. I am sorry ...

Please don't take my talk of you needing to forgive as a burden. It takes some people many years to be ready to do that. If it sounds too hard, you need time to work through it and experience some healing first. God can help us forgive things like this too.

Again, I am sorry to hear of all this. But no, you did nothing wrong in God's eyes - instead you WERE wronged.

 

[AvgJoe]

I was talking to a hardcore Christian about my life and some of the darker sides were brought up. I had been molested and raped and their response to this made me angry and ill to my stomach - they said that I shouldn't worry that Jesus would FORGIVE ME.

They saw me sinning somehow in that.

Is this a common view?

Certainly not! What you went through is horrible and did not make you a sinner. The only one sinning there was the perp who did that to you.