Lion Hearted Man
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We know a lot more about the brain than you think we do. There is no reason to believe any of it is nonphysical.
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Animals do not have a human "will".
I wouldn't go as far as to call it "animal will" since I don't know how animals think. But I do believe there is a nonphysical component to the brain of the animals Hespera described.
Been there, done that. It's the greatest show on earn, and the only game in town.It wasn't rhetorical, however you gave me an answer either way so it doesn't really matter.
Since my beliefs line up with the Christian God, then yes I think a sense of morality comes from the Bible.
Cultures don't evolve, they change. I don't believe in evolution, and no one can prove it so that's contradicting to what you have told me about beliefs. Evolution is a belief.
Maybe they dont know because they are relying on science to explain something nonphysical, so it makes sense they wouldnt know.
It supports my argument more than it does yours.
It is a valid assumption since you cannot detect the will in the brain.
What you have are effects, not cause.
Can you or anyone re-create the human "will? or a machine, perhaps, that can intentionally choose to act contrary to the way it was designed to act? a machine like this one?
This would show that you at least have an idea of whats going on in the human brain regarding the human will.
I have no reason to believe there isnt a nonphysical component to the brain of those animals you described. Call it animal will if you like, because its certainly not human.
Its good to have a solid reference point in life to remind us of who we are and not think we are mere animals working off of mere electricity.
Evil is not just a matter of committing heinous crimes, its also a matter of not following Gods will.
There are some very nice people out there (perhaps you are one of them) who do not follow Gods will, and thats not good enough.
From Gods perspective, all our righteous acts are like filthy rags - Isa 64:6.
I would say that will overlaps as it is also a property of the physical mind. The material mind with its own will is heavily inclined towards materialistic principles based on cause and effect and attraction. When it is exalted or left unchecked, it takes over, overcomes, and the person becomes what is referred to as a slave not only to the physical mind, but also its will. It's a carnal type of blissfulness, or the "wide path", and is primarily what Peter was talking about when he said,Maybe they dont know because they are relying on science to explain something nonphysical, so it makes sense they wouldnt know.
But there's not really any behaviour demonstrated by humans that is not demonstrated by animals to some degree. We can see the neurons firing in the brain when someone is hungry, to create the "will" to find food, or the "will" to find a mate when they are fertile. There's no need for anything nonphysical, and no evidence that such a thing exists.
Common ancestor? Maybe.
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Clearly there is no truth in that statement. The "need" for a nonphysical source of life could not be better documented.
Existence is sufficient proof that there was a first cause.
Steven Hawking covered this.
Humans are capable of having the will to destroy all life on the planet simply by the press of a few buttons. What animal do you know of that is capable of having the will to do such a thing?But there's not really any behaviour demonstrated by humans that is not demonstrated by animals to some degree.
You see neurons firing in the brain in response to hunger and fertility, but the will to find food or a mate is not caused by those neurons firing in the brain, this is why we can will ourselves to choose not to find food or a mate despite the hunger and fertility.We can see the neurons firing in the brain when someone is hungry, to create the "will" to find food, or the "will" to find a mate when they are fertile.
My claim is that the human will is nonphysical and there is no evidence for it apart from our experience of it in our minds and its effects on our brain and body.There's no need for anything nonphysical, and no evidence that such a thing exists.
Well, no one is denying that you know some things, nor is anyone claiming that a part of the brain is nonphysical. The claim is that there is more to the human mind than just a physical brain and that there is no conclusive evidence that the human will is physical in nature or is generated by a physical process. You are yet to demonstrate this.We know a lot more about the brain than you think we do. There is no reason to believe any of it is nonphysical.
Like I said before, the nonphysical human "will" create things. This post you are reading was created by my own "will".No evidence of anything ever being created by nonphysical means exists.
Humans are capable of having the will to destroy all life on the planet simply by the press of a few buttons. What animal do you know of that is capable of having the will to do such a thing?
You see neurons firing in the brain in response to hunger and fertility, but the will to find food or a mate is not caused by those neurons firing in the brain, this is why we can will ourselves to choose not to find food or a mate despite the hunger and fertility.
My claim is that the human will is nonphysical and there is no evidence for it apart from our experience of it in our minds and its effects on our brain and body.
It is for you to falsify my claim by showing that the human will is physical in nature or is generated by a physical process.
Gods will, which is also nonphysical, works similarly within the Christians mind; we cannot determine the evidence for Gods will apart from the experience of it in the Christians mind and its effects on the Christians brain and body, For it is God who works in you to will and to do according to His good purpose. - Phil 2:13
It is for you to falsify my claim by showing that the human will is physical in nature or is generated by a physical process.
Does this mean you have conceded?
That's just a product of more complex thought processes. Animals are perfectly capable of having the will to kill, and the intelligence to create tools. Nuclear weapons are just an extension of this.Humans are capable of having the will to destroy all life on the planet simply by the press of a few buttons. What animal do you know of that is capable of having the will to do such a thing?
You've no proof of this. When we resist the urge to find food or sex, different neurons fire. There are many evolutionary explanations for things such as altruism and self-control.You see neurons firing in the brain in response to hunger and fertility, but the will to find food or a mate is not caused by those neurons firing in the brain, this is why we can will ourselves to choose not to find food or a mate despite the hunger and fertility.
My claim is that the human will is nonphysical and there is no evidence for it apart from our experience of it in our minds and its effects on our brain and body.
It is for you to falsify my claim by showing that the human will is physical in nature or is generated by a physical process.
Gods will, which is also nonphysical, works similarly within the Christians mind; we cannot determine the evidence for Gods will apart from the experience of it in the Christians mind and its effects on the Christians brain and body, For it is God who works in you to will and to do according to His good purpose. - Phil 2:13
Like I said before, the nonphysical human "will" create things. This post you are reading was created by my own "will".
Like I said before, the nonphysical human "will" create things. This post you are reading was created by my own "will".
Well, no one is denying that you know some things, nor is anyone claiming that a part of the brain is nonphysical. The claim is that there is more to the human mind than just a physical brain and that there is no conclusive evidence that the human will is physical in nature or is generated by a physical process. You are yet to demonstrate this.
It is physical. It's a series of electrical signals that eventually lead to muscles contracting and other physiological responses. The post was written by your hands, not your will.
You saying it doesn't make it true. The post we are reading was created by computers, servers, and the Internet.
Prove it.It is physical.
My hands move in response to the electrical signals generated through my brain by my "will". Therefore my "will" did it.It's a series of electrical signals that eventually lead to muscles contracting and other physiological responses. The post was written by your hands, not your will.
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