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Yes I remember that thread. It's not like it's going to happen. The article is not very lengthy and doesn't get into much detail, it looks like a guess to me.

Give it another 5 years or so. You'll have plenty of time to move the goalposts by then.
 
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It is true that evolution is taught dogmatically.

Dogma is an established belief that never changes. Science corrects itself when presented with new facts.

Have you ever watched some online biology courses? I have, and they make Creationists sound like idiots.

I'm going to bite my tongue now. But if you've got some evidence of Creationism there are 2 threads going right now on the front page you might want to look into.
 
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Dogma is an established belief that never changes. Science corrects itself when presented with new facts.

You're right, science always changes. But within which philosophical framework?

I'm going to bite my tongue now. But if you've got some evidence of Creationism there are 2 threads going right now on the front page you might want to look into.

They will probably argue in circles around me. I need to do more research.
 
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They will probably argue in circles around me. I need to do more research.

Might I suggest that you do some research from scientific sources this time? You seem to be reading lots of Creationist sites, but almost no Evolution sites. If you want to argue against a group, see what they are actually saying rather than what others are telling you that they are saying. You might learn something along the way too.
 
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Might I suggest that you do some research from scientific sources this time? You seem to be reading lots of Creationist sites, but almost no Evolution sites. If you want to argue against a group, see what they are actually saying rather than what others are telling you that they are saying. You might learn something along the way too.

Believe it or not, I do read from evolution sources sometimes.
 
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:doh:

You cannot possibly be that dense.

My brain is made up of planck particles it seems. Should I just put you on ignore? Seriously. Give me some good reasons why I shouldn't put you on ignore, I demand an apology.

If I had to guess (because all I'm doing now is speculating on what he could have possibly wanted to respond), it would be that the "creationists are idiots". Which is silly.
 
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My brain is made up of planck particles it seems. Should I just put you on ignore? Seriously. Give me some good reasons why I shouldn't put you on ignore, I demand an apology.

If I had to guess (because all I'm doing now is speculating on what he could have possibly wanted to respond), it would be that the "creationists are idiots". Which is silly.
That's pretty close to accurate. Oh, there are some genuinely confused ones, stupid ones, and deliberately deceptive ones tryin' to make a buck off the innocently-deceived ones commonly known as "sheep". But don't forget that there has never been a single credible proponant of evangelical creationism anywhere ever, nor has there ever been a single verifiably accurate argument ever presented in favor of creationism, but what we do have is a staggering array of fools and liars dribbling all kinds of ridiculous nonsense most people whould rightly be ashamed of.
 
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My brain is made up of planck particles it seems. Should I just put you on ignore? Seriously. Give me some good reasons why I shouldn't put you on ignore, I demand an apology.

If I had to guess (because all I'm doing now is speculating on what he could have possibly wanted to respond), it would be that the "creationists are idiots". Which is silly.

That is the second time that you've threatened to ignore me, so just go ahead and do it. If you are that hyper-sensitive you shouldn't be on the internet because people can and will say much worse to you. Such as:

Yes, people who believe that the earth is 6000 years old and is at the center of the universe despite all evidence to the contrary are idiots.
 
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That is the second time that you've threatened to ignore me, so just go ahead and do it. If you are that hyper-sensitive you shouldn't be on the internet because people can and will say much worse to you. Such as:

Yes, people who believe that the earth is 6000 years old and is at the center of the universe despite all evidence to the contrary are idiots.

/ignore
 
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