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For Creationists.....
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What exactly do you mean by mythos? I have to ask since you are prone to put your own spin on the definitions of words.
Well here we have it, an admission that faith can be trust.
But nothing.
I can only speak of my own faith which I am happy to say is trust/confidence/belief but not without evidence.
I did question my assumptions. I asked, I sought and I knocked .. and got saved.
I used the term mega-evolution and made it clear what I meant by it so only someone who is being willfully ignorant would say that it is meaningless.
So much for the FACT of evolution.
I cited it as a definition in support of the point I was making.
I asked some questions, how is that taunting you?
Why is it illogical/irrational to believe in God?
It may be impossible according to everything you think you know
Why don't you try asking me?
It is! Its called faith in your own understanding.
If you had any confidence at all in your argument it most definitely would matter.
I dont find that it contradicts itself at all.
Oh Ill get to that .. eventually.
There you go running off at the mouth again. How about you back this up with something more than just your overblown opinion of your opinion?
I dont care what theologians who are creationists still admit, they arent speaking for me.
You really dont have a clue what you are talking about do you? Say the word and well go down this route.
FoeHammer.
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thaumaturgy
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Aron Ra said:
How 'bout these to start with:
JEALOUSY:
[bible]Deuteronomy 5:9[/bible]
VENGEANCE:
[bible]1 Samuel 15:2-3[/bible]
WRATH:
[bible]Exodus 32:9-10[/bible]
REGRET:
[bible]Exodus 32:14[/bible]
[bible]Genesis 6:6[/bible]
[bible]1 Samuel 15:35[/bible]
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But but, they were evil people so they deserved it. The children were also evil, they probably had evil blood due to their parents. basically demons! And god descides whats just, so god cant be unjust no matter what he does. if he does it, its just.
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TheOutsider
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Really? There is evidence for both the Judeo-Christian God and young earth creationism now? Why didn't you tell the rest of us?FoeHammer said:
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But you said you had "absolute" trust, which means you dont care about evidence. Thats what faith is, and its what arons being saying. If its absolute trust, its faith. If its absolute, evidence doesnt matter.
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You are wrong. Atheism doesn't have anything to say about morality except, obviously, that it doesn't involve God.
You are wrong. Atheism doesn't place man anywhere.
You are wrong. EVOLUTION THEORY EXPLAINS THE DIVERSITY OF LIFE. NOTHING MORE.
You are, surprise, wrong.
You are wrong. The ancestors of crabs and alligators don't change a great deal. The ancestors of birds, however, look quite different. They look like dinosaurs. Scientists have traced the ancestry of vast numbers of creatures, thank you very much.
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TheOutsider
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Christianity is man-centered in its belief that God's sole-purpose was to create the universe around humans. He even killed his own son to prove how truly important we are. YECs believe that the universe did not exist before man. Extremely arrogant in my opinion.
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This YEC believes that the universe did exist before man... for five days plus a few hours actually which renders your statement extremly ignorant in my opinion.
FoeHammer.
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TheOutsider
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This YEC believes that the universe did exist before man... for five days plus a few hours actually which renders your statement extremly ignorant in my opinion.
FoeHammer.
Fine then, I will correct myself.
That still seems extremely arrogant to me.
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And I'm equally impressed that you're so ignorant of your own scriptures!This YEC believes that the universe did exist before man... for five days plus a few hours actually which renders your statement extremly ignorant in my opinion.
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RichardT
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What are you talking about?
Genesis 1
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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OK, but I get tired of repeating myself, especially when I know you won't bother to read it, and you'd just automatically dismiss everything I say anyway. So I'm just going to give a link to where I said most of this before.
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