So, I'm still having problems with salvation. I need to get the focus from me to Jesus. Most of all, I'm having problems trusting Jesus after I keep asking Him to save me. How do I fix this problem?
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I've started trying that. But my problems have gotten worse.Hello Humbleservant.
God can save you and change you. He has changed me dramatically for the better! Cry out to him....Humble yourself before him on your knees and ask him to help. Put your faith in him.
One way to focus is to pray to God everyday and read The Bible. Also, try to find a Christian radio station and listen to it.
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Hello Humbleservant.
God can save you and change you. He has changed me dramatically for the better! Cry out to him....Humble yourself before him on your knees and ask him to help. Put your faith in him.
One way to focus is to pray to God everyday and read The Bible. Also, try to find a Christian radio station and listen to it.
Praying for you.![]()
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You seem to have a lot of confidence that I am a believer.Excellent post TimAM
There were a few years I had only the teeniest amount of hope .
Yet deep in my heart I did have hope , even though I had fear and doubt and ocd etc, deep deep in my heart I had hope.
Believers can go through much trial and tribulation, but we are always safe in Jesus.
You seem to have a lot of confidence that I am a believer.
Well, I explained this to a friend of mine, but maybe this will help you guys. When I pray to God, this is what happens. I start telling God about my problems, how I need His help, tell Jesus to save me, how much I care, and how honest I'm being. Then doubts start coming in my mind about whether or not I believe that I'm praying to God. Then doubts come in my mind about whether or not I'm depending on God for help. Then I get doubts about whether I really believe Jesus. Then I get doubts about whether I care or how honest I'm being. One of my problems is that I can't tell whether I'm honest or not in this subject. Then I get doubts about whether I believe in God or if I want to. Maybe that will help you guys try to figure out how these things can stop. Because I can't be a Christian and have this at the same time. Because this happens from morning to night. I am really tired of crying all day and feeling miserable.
No it's okay. But, as you said, that's how I feel. People get confident that we're believers because we care about salvation. Unbelievers don't do that, apparently. I get tempted to give up too. But I've known the truth too long to give up. Not to mention I promised God I wouldn't reject Him. So, yeah. It's just, I need help from this. Because Christians need to walk by faith.Your not alone in this, I just want you to know that im going through the same things. Its been nearly a year for me and I cant find God or salvation, I have cried and prayed and cried and prayed and still nothing. I know how much despair this can bring.
People also seem so confident that im a believer but then that shocks me because its impossible for someone on the internet who doenst even know who you are to be able to see whats in your heart and say that your a believer.
Im right here with you, discouraged and feeling completely abandoned of God. As a matter of fact im so fed up with trying that im just about tempted to sink back into my old ways, at least then I didnt worry 24/7 about going to hell. Im sorry if this post is negative but this is exactly the way that I feel.
No it's okay. But, as you said, that's how I feel. People get confident that we're believers because we care about salvation. Unbelievers don't do that, apparently. I get tempted to give up too. But I've known the truth too long to give up. Not to mention I promised God I wouldn't reject Him. So, yeah. It's just, I need help from this. Because Christians need to walk by faith.
How can I walk by faith when this goes through my mind 24/7?
Even if a person did just fear hell to start,[/color]
Jesus said to fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell.
Jesus can work with that and Jesus can change a person's heart if they just come to Him for mercy and cleansing and salvation.
They will taste and see that He is good as they abide in Him.
Jesus can make them grow and mature and bear fruit and change their heart and make all things new.
We cannot fix our own hearts , we can do nothing without Jesus,
Jesus said that.
However we can make a choice to come to Jesus for forgiveness and cleansing and salvation
and let Jesus change our hearts and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
We can renew our minds by reading the bible as Jesus helps us understand.
We can pray and worship.
But Jesus is the vine who makes us grow as we abide in Him.
Jesus changes our hearts when we come to Him.
Jesus forgives and cleanses us from all unrighteousness when we come to Him, just as we are
Jesus said he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
We just come as we are,
we cannot fix ourself
we can only come to Jesus
who makes all things new.
Likely your issues truly are OCD related and are probably not spiritual issues at all.
ocd or not , we can come as we are.
Jesus said he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
Now for me on the other hand, im 36yr old married man. I was brought up in a church going home and even went to a christian school for 12yrs so my exposure to light is greater than a lot of people get, yet most people dont seem to understand how this makes my sins even that much worse. The unpardonable sin is committed by one who is exposed to a great amount of light and then walks away from it to continue down a spiral path of sin headed straight for hell.
refers to people whom Jesus said to them,
my words have no place in you
why do you not believe Me when I tell you the Truth
why do you not understand Me etc.
They strongly believed Jesus was not good
not their Saviour
not God their Redeemer
could not forgive sin
not God
they wilfully and without fear opened their mouth and spoke out their unbelief against Him
and plotted against Him
They did not believe in Jesus
did not want Jesus
did not come to Jesus for forgiveness
they even tried to hide the evidence of His resurrection
If they had of come to Jesus for forgiveness and cleansing
If they had of believed in Jesus
Jesus said verily verily I say unto you, he that believeth on Me has everlasting life.
Jesus said he that cometh to Me , I will in no wise cast out.
Jesus is Truth
The scripture cannot be broken
Jesus Words will not pass away
The book of Hebrews gives plenty of warnings concerning the upnardonable sin about walking away from the faith instead of pressing on to conversion.
Does it say those people cannot be forgiven?
Jesus said with man this is impossible , but with God all things are possible.
Jesus also said all things are possible to Him that believeth.
Most people have a hard time seeing this as something that happened to me but I dont have a hard time with it at all, I think its exactly what happened to me.
Is the Lord's arm shortened that He cannot save?
Is anything too hard for Him?
Is His mercy new every morning?
Are all things possible to Him?
Does Jesus have power to forgive sin?
If we confess our sins is Jesus faithful and just to forgive us our sin and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness?
You know whats really odd? Ever since I was a child and was just old enough to understand what the rapture was I have been terrified of being left behind. When I was around 12yrs of age I would go into panick if I could not find my parents in the house because I thought I was left behind. I used to cry myself to sleep wondering if when I woke up if they would still be there.
It seems like a deep fear was trying to take root
but nothing is to hard for Jesus to heal.
I have never for some reason been able to see God as a God who loved me, I dont know if I was exposed to something at a young age or what but I can only see God as my judge instead of my heavinly father.
Jesus came to heal the broken hearted and set at liberty those who are bruised.
When I was a child I wanted to tell my parents about my fear of being left behind but its always like something was holding me back, I wanted to walk the aisle at church so many times and get saved but for some stupid reason I would just stand in place to afraid to move!
Jesus saw your heart , He knew you wanted to get saved.
Jesus looks on the heart.
Man looks on the outside.
And now, to add insult to injury im finding out that I did not have to walk the aisle to get saved, all I had to do was just believe and ask God right there in my seat to save me and I would have been saved!!!
It is not too late Robert,
God is beyond time.
Jesus said verily verily I say unto you, he that believeth on Me has everlasting life.
Jesus siad , he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
Jesus words shall not pass away
Jesus is Truth
Jesus said whosoever will may come and drink freely from the water of life
no time limits
no conditions
Jesus mercy is new every morning
Jesus is Love
Love hopes all things believes all things
endures all things
Love never fails
nothing is impossible to Jesus
Do you see why im so upset? its like I have been cheated out of my chance for being saved because I had the wrong idea of what salvation was and how to obtain it. I always thought I had to go up in front of the church or tell a pastor I needed to be saved otherwise it would not happen but now im finding out this is incorrect!
Do you believe in Jesus
yes
Have you asked Jesus to have mercy on you and forgive you and save you
you said yes
Have you come to Jesus
yes
Do you believe Jesus is the Saviour
yes
do you believe Jesus died for the sins of the world
yes
do you believe Jesus is our Redeemer
yes
We cannot fix ourselves
we come to Jesus and Jesus fixes and heals us
our righteousness is of Him, not ourselves
nothing is too hard for Jesus
who is not willing that any should perish
Jesus said verily verily I say unto you, he that believeth on Me has everlasting life.
Jesus said he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
Jesus said whosoever will may come and drink freely from the Water of Life
Jesus is Truth
Jesus Words will not pass away
But im finding all this out after the fact that the Holy Spirit stopped dealing with me so what good does it do for me now! all these things do is make me bitter now because I missed it. But at the end of the day I cant blame anyone else but myself.
You know Robert, cheating is a sin. In fact, cheating is a form of stealing and lying. God cannot do either. God never cheats on people. Ever. The reason the pharisees didn't get saved is because they didn't want to. If you want to, you can get saved. It's your choice. If you want, you can turn from your sin and ask Jesus to save you.This is going to be long but its worth a read so bear with me please.
First of all I would like to encourage you Humbleservant, I do not know you personally so I will not judge your heart but it sounds like to me you never fell into any deep rooted unrepentant sin the way that I did so that is a good thing. Also you are concerned about your relationship with the Lord, its not like you just fear going to hell, you have a genuine concern for being close to God, I see this as a good thing too.
Likely your issues truly are OCD related and are probably not spiritual issues at all.
Now for me on the other hand, im 36yr old married man. I was brought up in a church going home and even went to a christian school for 12yrs so my exposure to light is greater than a lot of people get, yet most people dont seem to understand how this makes my sins even that much worse. The unpardonable sin is committed by one who is exposed to a great amount of light and then walks away from it to continue down a spiral path of sin headed straight for hell. The book of Hebrews gives plenty of warnings concerning the upnardonable sin about walking away from the faith instead of pressing on to conversion.
Most people have a hard time seeing this as something that happened to me but I dont have a hard time with it at all, I think its exactly what happened to me.
You know whats really odd? Ever since I was a child and was just old enough to understand what the rapture was I have been terrified of being left behind. When I was around 12yrs of age I would go into panick if I could not find my parents in the house because I thought I was left behind. I used to cry myself to sleep wondering if when I woke up if they would still be there. I have never for some reason been able to see God as a God who loved me, I dont know if I was exposed to something at a young age or what but I can only see God as my judge instead of my heavinly father.
When I was a child I wanted to tell my parents about my fear of being left behind but its always like something was holding me back, I wanted to walk the aisle at church so many times and get saved but for some stupid reason I would just stand in place to afraid to move!
And now, to add insult to injury im finding out that I did not have to walk the aisle to get saved, all I had to do was just believe and ask God right there in my seat to save me and I would have been saved!!!
Do you see why im so upset? its like I have been cheated out of my chance for being saved because I had the wrong idea of what salvation was and how to obtain it. I always thought I had to go up in front of the church or tell a pastor I needed to be saved otherwise it would not happen but now im finding out this is incorrect!
But im finding all this out after the fact that the Holy Spirit stopped dealing with me so what good does it do for me now! all these things do is make me bitter now because I missed it. But at the end of the day I cant blame anyone else but myself.