Flouride In Water Linked To Lower

[AV1611VET]

The acreage isn't the primary concern when it comes to population size concerns.

A) location/logistics
The total land surface area of Earth is about 57,308,738 square miles, of which about 33% is desert and about 24% is mountainous. Subtracting this uninhabitable 57% (32,665,981 mi2) from the total land area leaves 24,642,757 square miles or 15.77 billion acres of habitable land.

Ecclesiastes 11:4 He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap.

(And yes, I read your entire post.)

You make good points, but God knew all that before He mandated replenishing the earth; yet He mandated it anyway.

Why do you think that is?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Ecclesiastes 11:4 He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap.

(And yes, I read your entire post.)

You make good points, but God knew all that before He mandated replenishing the earth; yet He mandated it anyway.

Why do you think that is?

I'm not in a position to give a direct answer that question as an atheist.

However, it should be noted that the word "replenish" is often a hotly debated thing between theologians of the Christian and Jewish faiths.

Primarily, because the word they translated to "replenish" from Hebrew for that, wasn't actually the Hebrew word for replenish. Some feel that the King James version may have had ulterior motives for that.

A) In the context of the story of God telling Adam and Eve to "replenish" the earth, it wouldn't have even made sense as in order to re-fill something, it would've had to have been full at some point before that...so if Adam & Eve were the first two people, the word "replenish" wouldn't really apply.

B) Even if the command was to replenish the earth and the translation wasn't in dispute, it doesn't specify to what degree of "fullness" by any measurable metric. I would assume it doesn't mean literally having 130 Billion people all standing shoulder to shoulder. Regard for available resources would've had to come into play one would think. If there's only enough food for 20 people a "make 21 people" command certainly wouldn't have made sense.


I think it's fairly obvious as to why each of the major faiths out there have various version of the "make sure to multiply and have babies" command baked in (whether it be an overt command, or indirectly, in the form of forbidding contraception). There's a vested interest in keeping the religion active and going into the future. Plus, there's a societal power associated with having the highest percentage as possible of people who subscribe to a particular faith. If you have a county/society where a large percentage of a population is of a particular faith, the leaders of that faith certainly have a disproportionate level of influence over other aspects of society.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm not in a position to give a direct answer that question as an atheist.

However, it should be noted that the word "replenish" is often a hotly debated thing between theologians of the Christian and Jewish faiths.

Primarily, because the word they translated to "replenish" from Hebrew for that, wasn't actually the Hebrew word for replenish. Some feel that the King James version may have had ulterior motives for that.

Hi, Rob.

Again, you're making good points.

Let me address them to the best of my knowledge on the subject:

A) You're right, "replenish" means to fill a supply, that has been there before. But the error is assuming the "re" in "replenish" is a prefix; like "refill" or "retype" or "recreate."

It is not.

It is a single word, simply starting with "re".

Like "reason" or "referee" or "renounce".

From Merriam-Webster's definition of "replenish:"

1. to fill or build up again
2. to fill with persons or animals

And from Webster's 1828 Dictionary, which is our church's go-to source for definitions:

1. to fill; to stock with numbers or abundance
2. to finish; to complete

I'll address your other points later.

 

[AV1611VET]

B) Even if the command was to replenish the earth and the translation wasn't in dispute, it doesn't specify to what degree of "fullness" by any measurable metric.

That's true.

I would assume it doesn't mean literally having 130 Billion people all standing shoulder to shoulder.

I agree.

Regard for available resources would've had to come into play one would think. If there's only enough food for 20 people a "make 21 people" command certainly wouldn't have made sense.

I don't know.

Possible God set a quota that, once reached, then sterility would occur.

God uses quotas and boundaries to accomplish His will.

Quota:

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Boundary:

Psalm 104:9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

 

[Chesterton]

Hi, Rob.

Again, you're making good points.

Let me address them to the best of my knowledge on the subject:

A) You're right, "replenish" means to fill a supply, that has been there before. But the error is assuming the "re" in "replenish" is a prefix; like "refill" or "retype" or "recreate."

It is not.

It is a single word, simply starting with "re".

Like "reason" or "referee" or "renounce".

From Merriam-Webster's definition of "replenish:"

1. to fill or build up again
2. to fill with persons or animals

And from Webster's 1828 Dictionary, which is our church's go-to source for definitions:

1. to fill; to stock with numbers or abundance
2. to finish; to complete

I'll address your other points later.

Not that I don't completely trust you, but I had to check this, and you're exactly right. I never knew. A bit of research shows that the word was not used to mean "re-fill" until the 17th century. Thanks for learnin' me sumthin.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not that I don't completely trust you, but I had to check this, and you're exactly right. I never knew. A bit of research shows that the word was not used to mean "re-fill" until the 17th century. Thanks for learnin' me sumthin.

You betcha, chief!

I learned it myself from one of Gail Riplinger's books!

 

[Aaron112]

science take a hike?

They showed long ago that the way fl is used is on purpose harmful and creates uncountable more problems, besides not being helpful ..... but MONEY WINS.

 

[RileyG]

Eh? considering all the fluoride tablets I took in childhood, I doubt I'll ever have a cavity again

 

[RileyG]

They showed long ago that the way fl is used is on purpose harmful and creates uncountable more problems, besides not being helpful ..... but MONEY WINS.

Wasn't there a conspiracy in the '50s the soviets were putting fluoride in our water supply?

 

[DaisyDay]

Since 2015, federal health officials have recommended a fluoridation level of 0.7 milligrams per liter of water, and for five decades before the recommended upper range was 1.2. The World Health Organization has set a safe limit for fluoride in drinking water of 1.5.

The report said that about 0.6% of the U.S. population — about 1.9 million people — are on water systems with naturally occurring fluoride levels of 1.5 milligrams or higher.

My dad’s area in the Texas panhandle had natural fluoride which stained his teeth badly.

 

[DaisyDay]

Eh? considering all the fluoride tablets I took in childhood, I doubt I'll ever have a cavity again

Why were you given fluoride tablets?

Never mind. I see you took them for prevention of cavities.

 

[RileyG]

Why were you given fluoride tablets?

Never mind. I see you took them for prevention of cavities.

Was that common? That was about 20 years ago. I don’t know if it’s still a thing.

 

[DaisyDay]

Was that common? That was about 20 years ago. I don’t know if it’s still a thing.

Was that common? That was about 20 years ago. I don’t know if it’s still a thing.

I’ve never heard of that but there are many things I haven’t heard of.

Perhaps it was peculiar to your area; if your water was not fluoridated this may have been an alternative.

 

[RileyG]

I’ve never heard of that but there are many things I haven’t heard of.

Perhaps it was peculiar to your area; if your water was not fluoridated this may have been an alternative.

Omaha, NE circa 2003/2004. Who knows?

 

[loveofourlord]

I'm going to disagree here.

God said to "replenish the earth," which means to "fill it up."

Science yells "overpopulation" ... well ... for reasons.

But the fact is, 95% of the world's population lives on just 10% of the land.

yeah, but the food to feed that 95% of the population is bigger then the earth....beacuse you know, people need more then just room to live.

 

[AV1611VET]

yeah, but the food to feed that 95% of the population is bigger then the earth....

Not if you factor the oceans in.

The sea provides the biggest source of wild or domestic protein in the world. Each year some 70 to 75 million tons of fish are caught in the ocean. Of this amount around 29 million tons is for human consumption. The global fish production exceeds that of cattle, sheep, poultry or eggs.

SOURCE

 

[Pommer]

Not if you factor the oceans in.

The sea provides the biggest source of wild or domestic protein in the world. Each year some 70 to 75 million tons of fish are caught in the ocean. Of this amount around 29 million tons is for human consumption. The global fish production exceeds that of cattle, sheep, poultry or eggs.

SOURCE

I still cannot find a tin of anchovies in my town!

 

[AV1611VET]

I still cannot find a tin of anchovies in my town!

My favorite pizza is a pepperoni and double anchovy!

Yum yum!

 

[Chesterton]

I still cannot find a tin of anchovies in my town!

Have you tried going to a store that sells food? I mean they're not just laying around on the street or anything.

 

[loveofourlord]

Not if you factor the oceans in.

The sea provides the biggest source of wild or domestic protein in the world. Each year some 70 to 75 million tons of fish are caught in the ocean. Of this amount around 29 million tons is for human consumption. The global fish production exceeds that of cattle, sheep, poultry or eggs.

SOURCE

yeah and overfishing is killing fish stock OOPS.