Flouride In Water Linked To Lower

[Ana the Ist]

US government report says fluoride at twice the recommended limit is linked to lower IQ in kids

A U.S. government report concludes that fluoride in drinking water at twice the recommended limit is linked with lower IQ in children.

apnews.com

Feel free to read the report. It's not just you, people are getting dumber.

In recognition of this scientific discovery, I'm returning to my old profile pic.

This exactly how your hardcore commie thinks!

 

[AV1611VET]

Feel free to read the report. It's not just you, people are getting dumber.

Ya but they have less cavities.

 

[AlexB23]

US government report says fluoride at twice the recommended limit is linked to lower IQ in kids

A U.S. government report concludes that fluoride in drinking water at twice the recommended limit is linked with lower IQ in children.

apnews.com

Feel free to read the report. It's not just you, people are getting dumber.

In recognition of this scientific discovery, I'm returning to my old profile pic.

This exactly how your hardcore commie thinks!

It would be nice if homes had rain collectors built on to the roofs, and advanced filtration systems, cos if someone hacked our water system, and caused a massive surge of fluorine into our water system, then we would be screwed.

Water System hacking risk:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/us-warns-that-hackers-are-carrying-out-disruptive-attacks-water-systems-2024-03-20/

Florida almost hacked in 2021:

Hacker Attempts to Poison Florida City's Water Supply

The attack on an Oldsmar, Florida, water utility was unsuccessful; however, it chillingly spotlights a potential vulnerability to critical infrastructure in the United States.

www.asisonline.org

Ann Arbor Man uses rainwater for his house for ecology sake, but government forces him to put warning labels on his system (2019):

Ann Arbor man turns rain collected from rooftop into ‘insanely pure’ drinking water

Matt Grocoff hopes to see a shift toward decentralizing municipal water systems someday and more embrace of systems like his to use rainwater for drinking water.

www.mlive.com

 

[wing2000]

Since 2015, federal health officials have recommended a fluoridation level of 0.7 milligrams per liter of water, and for five decades before the recommended upper range was 1.2. The World Health Organization has set a safe limit for fluoride in drinking water of 1.5.

The report said that about 0.6% of the U.S. population — about 1.9 million people — are on water systems with naturally occurring fluoride levels of 1.5 milligrams or higher.

 

[Reluctant Theologian]

US government report says fluoride at twice the recommended limit is linked to lower IQ in kids

A U.S. government report concludes that fluoride in drinking water at twice the recommended limit is linked with lower IQ in children.

apnews.com

Feel free to read the report. It's not just you, people are getting dumber.

In recognition of this scientific discovery, I'm returning to my old profile pic.

This exactly how your hardcore commie thinks!

That's the exact reason why I don't drink fluoride enriched tap water and use fluoride-free toothpaste ....

I would encourage everyone to do the same ..

 

[Lost4words]

I love fluoride! I have it with every meal!

 

[IceJad]

US government report says fluoride at twice the recommended limit is linked to lower IQ in kids

A U.S. government report concludes that fluoride in drinking water at twice the recommended limit is linked with lower IQ in children.

apnews.com

Feel free to read the report. It's not just you, people are getting dumber.

In recognition of this scientific discovery, I'm returning to my old profile pic.

This exactly how your hardcore commie thinks!

I personally think the reason American people are getting dumber is not because of fluoride in the drinking water. I can't put a finger on it....

but fluoride is definitely not helping in these cases.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It sounds like the percentage of people with over-fluoridated water was pretty miniscule.

It summarizes a review of studies, conducted in Canada, China, India, Iran, Pakistan, and Mexico, that concludes that drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter is consistently associated with lower IQs in kids.

...the studies reviewed in the report suggested IQ was 2 to 5 points lower in children who’d had higher exposures.

The report said that about 0.6% of the U.S. population are on water systems with naturally occurring fluoride levels of 1.5 milligrams or higher.


So the kinds of things (that are happening in a pretty broad manner) people are referring to when they say "dumber" or "a dumbing down", are likely not the result of a reduced ability to learn due to the <1% who may be losing 2 IQ points due to something in the water, but rather, a rebuke of our education systems.

(not to mention, the patterns described on some of these things, we're seeing mirrored in European countries that have rejected water fluoridation...such as Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, and Italy.)

 

[Aaron112]

Ya but they have less cavities.

Now for a moment I am sad.
That mis-information is widespread and taught in most schools (probably),
but of all the posters in all the threads in all the forums on all the internets in the galaxy,
... ... ... ... ... ...
... ... ... ...
well, let's just say if/when you find out, if you would be so kind, msg me. (I won't see posts in this thread).

 

[AV1611VET]

Now for a moment I am sad.
That mis-information is widespread and taught in most schools (probably),
but of all the posters in all the threads in all the forums on all the internets in the galaxy,
... ... ... ... ... ...
... ... ... ...
well, let's just say if/when you find out, if you would be so kind, msg me. (I won't see posts in this thread).

This is what science says about it:

Fluoride is often called nature's cavity fighter, and for good reason. This naturally occurring mineral helps prevent tooth decay by making the surface of our teeth (known as tooth enamel) stronger and more resistant to cavities.

SOURCE

Or can science take a hike?

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

lol I think the generations that dealt with lead are a bigger problem.

Lead in gasoline blunted IQ of half the U.S. population, study says

Leaded gas was banned in 1996, but exposure to the poison cost people born before then several IQ points on average, researchers estimated.

www.nbcnews.com

But sure, fluoride is the problem.

 

[AV1611VET]

lol I think the generations that dealt with lead are a bigger problem.

The world started adding lead to gasoline in the 1920s. The reason was that it is an 'antiknock agent' which improved the efficiency of vehicles and the performance of the engine. It turned clunky engines into smoothly running engines. But lead proved to be a toxic pollutant – particularly for children.

SOURCE

Oops!

Another example of the children being overlooked.

 

[trophy33]

Fluoride, chlorine, pollution in air, pollution in water, pollution in land, conservatives, preservatives, pesticides, colorants, low-nutrition hypermarket foods, tons of sugar, seed oils, wifi, phone towers, younger and younger people drinking alcohol, microplastics everywhere, higher and higher temperatures every year, stress, constant noise in cities...

Only 7% of Americans are metabolically healthy. Cancer, CVD, diabetes, mental diseases, everything on the rise. Maybe its not "the one big thing", but death by a thousand cuts. Our bodies simply cannot constantly fight this all.

We must return to more clean way of living.

 

[AV1611VET]

We must return to more clean way of living.

How?

Science gave us those products, and we are taught to trust what science says without question.

 

[Hans Blaster]

lol I think the generations that dealt with lead are a bigger problem.

Lead in gasoline blunted IQ of half the U.S. population, study says

Leaded gas was banned in 1996, but exposure to the poison cost people born before then several IQ points on average, researchers estimated.

www.nbcnews.com

But sure, fluoride is the problem.

They are destroying our Purity Of Essence again.

The anti-floridation* movement was always tied to the far-right/conspiracy mongering groups like the Birchers.

*Not to be confused with anti-Florification. Don't let your state become Florida.

 

[trophy33]

How?

Science gave us those products, and we are taught to trust what science says without question.

First, there must be less people on the planet. Environmentally sustainable population is estimated to be between 2 billion (if everybody lived like a middle class American) to 4 billion of people.

Overpopulation is the biggest problem. Not having children and/or moving to space may be solutions.

 

[AV1611VET]

First, there must be less people on the planet. Environmentally sustainable population is estimated to be between 2 billion (if everybody lived like a middle class American) to 4 billion of people.

Overpopulation is the biggest problem. Not having children and/or moving to space may be solutions.

I'm going to disagree here.

God said to "replenish the earth," which means to "fill it up."

Science yells "overpopulation" ... well ... for reasons.

But the fact is, 95% of the world's population lives on just 10% of the land.

 

[RileyG]

Ya but they have less cavities.

I used to take fluoride tablets as a child to prevent cavities. That's still a thing?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I'm going to disagree here.

God said to "replenish the earth," which means to "fill it up."

Science yells "overpopulation" ... well ... for reasons.

But the fact is, 95% of the world's population lives on just 10% of the land.

The acreage isn't the primary concern when it comes to population size concerns.

A) location/logistics
The total land surface area of Earth is about 57,308,738 square miles, of which about 33% is desert and about 24% is mountainous. Subtracting this uninhabitable 57% (32,665,981 mi2) from the total land area leaves 24,642,757 square miles or 15.77 billion acres of habitable land.

So, that would be 2 acres of land per person currently on the planet. Now, we also need to use some of that land for agriculture and farming and livestock. We also need to use some of that land for means of transportation (roads, bridges, etc...) There are also some communal resources (which we all enjoy) that require land. (Supermarkets, military bases, museums, libraries, office buildings, etc...) So that's not really leaving people with the "spacious spread" people are thinking.


B) resources
Even if we pretended that the things listed in bullet point A were not a factor, simply having enough land doesn't equate to have everything else you need. And there would be a land requirement in order to scale up to a new (bigger) population sizes...more people means we need more stores, more farmland, etc...

C) social/cultural challenges
Absent the taring down of national borders and sovereignty, how does one handle the allocation? According to recent estimates, there's about 630 million acres of unoccupied and unused land in the US. They're packed in like sardines over in places like China and India. If we went 1 person per 2 acres of available land to space things out a bit, you comfortable with importing 300 million foreign nationals from China and India to even out the load a bit so that the population densities aren't so high in those countries? (Not to mention, many from those countries wouldn't want to relocate here for the same reasons you probably wouldn't want to relocate to a different country with completely different cultural norms - and climate - than what you're used to)


So it's not just as simple as a "divide acres by population, and see! we've got plenty of room" math exercise.

 

[trophy33]

I'm going to disagree here.

God said to "replenish the earth," which means to "fill it up."

Genesis was written in the iron age era. Today, we consume too much resources.

But the fact is, 95% of the world's population lives on just 10% of the land.

Their consumption destroys the rest, too, though.