time will tell.Give it a few weeks and you'll see.
I did not say we were I said if we did we would not have those choices to make. Although I would also think that would take volunteers first BEFORE making those choices.
It would not just have to be covid could be anythingCovid is a horrible way to die, I don’t think you’ll find many people volunteering to drown to death in their own lungs, even if they were capable of making a decision by the time it’s necessary.
I don't smoke, but thanks for caring.
I beg your pardon! I do not smoke, and it's not a lie.
And not just die. It is causing kidney failure, heart failure, liver failure, problems with peripheral circulation, neurological issues and of course, chronic lung problems.Covid is a horrible way to die, I don’t think you’ll find many people volunteering to drown to death in their own lungs, even if they were capable of making a decision by the time it’s necessary.
What's your evidence anyone has given up? What exactly do you demand he do? And how would that help?Yeah. I don’t see us magically resolving together to take on the challenge anymore. The president has pretty much given up on the effort and it’s now every state for themselves as to how they want to deal with it. Some states might do better than others but nationally our response has been a dumpster fire.
However, most of the Democratic governors told the President that it was their business, not his, and that they were in charge (except that they would like federal money, of course).Yeah. I don’t see us magically resolving together to take on the challenge anymore. The president has pretty much given up on the effort and it’s now every state for themselves as to how they want to deal with it.
Where do you get that number from? Did you just make it up? Is that happening anywhere?So only a 10% death rate? No big deal. Reopen everything!
What did the founding fathers think of epidemics:
Opinion | Here's what the Founders actually thought about masks and quarantines
Later, while president, Washington had to cope when the young nation’s then-capital, Philadelphia, was overtaken with yellow fever in 1793. Believing that the illness was contagious (it is actually spread by mosquitoes), residents of America’s then-largest city adopted many of the measures that have become our own new normal: covering their faces in public, avoiding crowds, closing schools and businesses, and staying home
During this time, Washington instructed Secretary of War Henry Knox to, essentially, work remotely.“I think it would not be prudent either for you or the clerks in your office, or the office itself, to be too much exposed to the malignant fever,” Washington wrote. The president had decided to work from home himself, at Mount Vernon, telling a friend that he “could not think of hazarding” his wife and children by staying in Philadelphia.
Leaders on the scene, meanwhile, had no qualms about imposing regulations on the public for their own safety. Philadelphia Mayor Matthew Clarkson tasked prominent physician — and a signer of the Declaration of Independence — Benjamin Rush with compiling a list of public safety measures. Many, including the quarantining of all visitors and goods for two to three weeks, were adopted as new ordinances. The mayor also ordered a sanitation campaign throughout the city and requisitioned an abandoned estate for a makeshift hospital.
What did the founding fathers think of epidemics:
Opinion | Here's what the Founders actually thought about masks and quarantines
Later, while president, Washington had to cope when the young nation’s then-capital, Philadelphia, was overtaken with yellow fever in 1793. Believing that the illness was contagious (it is actually spread by mosquitoes), residents of America’s then-largest city adopted many of the measures that have become our own new normal: covering their faces in public, avoiding crowds, closing schools and businesses, and staying home
During this time, Washington instructed Secretary of War Henry Knox to, essentially, work remotely.“I think it would not be prudent either for you or the clerks in your office, or the office itself, to be too much exposed to the malignant fever,” Washington wrote. The president had decided to work from home himself, at Mount Vernon, telling a friend that he “could not think of hazarding” his wife and children by staying in Philadelphia.
Leaders on the scene, meanwhile, had no qualms about imposing regulations on the public for their own safety. Philadelphia Mayor Matthew Clarkson tasked prominent physician — and a signer of the Declaration of Independence — Benjamin Rush with compiling a list of public safety measures. Many, including the quarantining of all visitors and goods for two to three weeks, were adopted as new ordinances. The mayor also ordered a sanitation campaign throughout the city and requisitioned an abandoned estate for a makeshift hospital.
Of course not. The best estimate currently seems to be about 0.5%, but that is a percent of an invisible set of infected people. When assessing severity, it’s better to use visible things like sickness, people in hospitals, ICU use, etc. Saying that there are more people invisibly sick than we thought so the death rate is lower doesn’t change anything real.Where do you get that number from? Did you just make it up? Is that happening anywhere?
If so, it would be refreshing if anybody on that side of the issue other than yourself would say what you did.It is true that at the moment fewer people are dying than in the past. That’s good news if it continues. But dying is only part of the picture. Hospital capacity is still a problem.
Id love to let young adults have their parties and just us old fogies have to be restricted to grocery stores and work. I work for a university. It’s a big economic problem for us to close the dorms and have classes online. Starting in January I’m going to have to do two peoples work, because we can’t replace people. I’d love to let the kids come back, though teaching them could be a challenge. You could imagine that happening. But it doesn’t seem to make sense now.If so, it would be refreshing if anybody on that side of the issue other than yourself would say what you did.
What we hear instead are horror stories about how so many people are dying terrible deaths from the virus--all because of an uncaring President, you know.
However the federal government (and the president) led the way. Instead, we have a president who is engaging in fantastical thinking (it will just disappear), making it a political issue so that red state governors are emboldened to ignore science. The failure of the president and FEMA to set a single source PPE supply for states is an example. States were paying much higher prices for everythingNote it was done by the local government. Not a Federal mandate. Exactly like it is today.