happyinhisgrace
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My position on cleavage is that it is not to be shown on a christian forum...do I get your vote? lolWrigley said:
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My position on cleavage is that it is not to be shown on a christian forum...do I get your vote? lolWrigley said:Depending on what your position on cleavage is, you'll have my support.
happyinhisgrace said:Yes, and if you subcribe to the lds standards you are expected to show so appropriately.
No there is not a Mormon Gestapo that runs around to make sure everyone is doing what they are supposed to. If there are gossipers and back-biters in the church then they are exactly where they should be. For the church was made for people like these (us) It is a place where we can learn from Christ how to correct such behavior.Wrigley said:I was thinking about the enforcement of the WOW. I know the mormon community to be very tight and close knit. In any relationship like that, people know what is done and by whom. So, taking arizona's word for it that the bishop's enforcement of the WOW is too strong of a term, wouldn't the enforcement come from peer pressure with in the group itself? And knowing that the mormon community, like all close knit communities, gossip of behavior contrary to the WOW would get back to the Bishop? And wouldn't it be within the Bishop's job description to ask the temple recommend appilicant about the rumored behavior? So, in the end, the Bishop would be enforcing the WOW?
And, once again, I retain the caveat that my speculation may change as conditions warrant.
Yes, they are voluntary but one can not go to the highest heaven (celestial kingdom) without attending the temple and having endowments taken out and one cannot do this without an interview to get a temple recommend and one can not get a temple recommend if they don't obey the WofW and admit as such so when it all boils down to it, to go to the highest level of Mormon heaven, you have to go to meetings or you don't get to go on to become gods yourselves or even serve other gods in the CK. And no, I am not saying I would want to become a god, to say so would be blastfamey. The fact still remains that the WofW is enforced in the LDS church.Theway said:No there is not a Mormon Gestapo that runs around to make sure everyone is doing what they are supposed to. If there are gossipers and back-biters in the church then they are exactly where they should be. For the church was made for people like these (us) It is a place where we can learn from Christ how to correct such behavior.
BTW the thing that Happy and you fail to realize is that all interviews in the church are voluntary, you are never forced to attend any meetings.
happyinhisgrace said:The fact still remains that the WofW is enforced in the LDS church.
Ah yes, "voluntary".Theway said:BTW the thing that Happy and you fail to realize is that all interviews in the church are voluntary, you are never forced to attend any meetings.
baker said:Ah yes, "voluntary".
But is there a practical consequence to "family events" if you do not attend these meetings?
Perhaps answering that question brings a little more reality to this claim of "voluntary"!
You claim to have been a member however are you sure the church you were going to was LDS because none of the above statement is correct as you stated it.happyinhisgrace said:Yes, they are voluntary but one can not go to the highest heaven (celestial kingdom) without attending the temple and having endowments taken out and one cannot do this without an interview to get a temple recommend and one can not get a temple recommend if they don't obey the WofW and admit as such so when it all boils down to it, to go to the highest level of Mormon heaven, you have to go to meetings or you don't get to go on to become gods yourselves or even serve other gods in the CK. And no, I am not saying I would want to become a god, to say so would be blastfamey. The fact still remains that the WofW is enforced in the LDS church.
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of course it is correct. Are you going to flat out lie and claim that you don't have to do all those things to get to the CK?Theway said:You claim to have been a member however are you sure the church you were going to was LDS because none of the above statement is correct as you stated it.
Because it is true!arizona_sunshine said:You are clinging to that argument. Why? Is that what this is about?
It is not.
Theway said:as you stated it.
If I do that's a different story. However I assumed you meant this was true for everyone.happyinhisgrace said:of course it is correct. Are you going to flat out lie and claim that you don't have to do all those things to get to the CK?
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happyinhisgrace said:Because it is true!
happyinhisgrace said:Yes, they are voluntary but one can not go to the highest heaven (celestial kingdom) without attending the temple and having endowments taken out and one cannot do this without an interview to get a temple recommend and one can not get a temple recommend if they don't obey the WofW and admit as such so when it all boils down to it, to go to the highest level of Mormon heaven, you have to go to meetings or you don't get to go on to become gods yourselves or even serve other gods in the CK. And no, I am not saying I would want to become a god, to say so would be blastfamey. The fact still remains that the WofW is enforced in the LDS church.
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C'mon arizona. Are you actually telling me that the WOW are not enforced? Are they looked at as quaint little recommendations not to be taken seriously? Are you actually telling me that if you do not follow the WOW you would still get a temple recommend?arizona_sunshine said:You are clinging to that argument. Why? Is that what this is about?
It is not.
I didn't know quid pro quo was part of your belief system.fatboys said:Grace if you do not believe that these leaders are called of God, and interview people to ask questions of worthiness, then would you still believe the need to go to the Celestial kingdom? If you don't want to commit to the WofW, you don't have to. But then what other things fall by the wayside as teachings of the church? If we do not commit ourselves to obey what is asked, then should we expect to receive blessings for what we did not do?
Let's stay on topic here....do you or don't you agree that the WofW is enforced in the since that one must obey it to get a temple recommend so they might go to the temple, get their endowments out so they can make it to the CK?fatboys said:Grace if you do not believe that these leaders are called of God, and interview people to ask questions of worthiness, then would you still believe the need to go to the Celestial kingdom? If you don't want to commit to the WofW, you don't have to. But then what other things fall by the wayside as teachings of the church? If we do not commit ourselves to obey what is asked, then should we expect to receive blessings for what we did not do?
happyinhisgrace said:Let's stay on topic here....do you or don't you agree that the WofW is enforced
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