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It is basic doctrine, based on the inerrant Word of God -- (in my opinion).

LOL! Is that answer #4... All of the above? Basically, it is the first answer, which you felt the need to de-emphasize by putting it in parenthases. It is just your opinion. You like to pretend its "the inerrant Word of God, " but most of us know better.
 
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Is 'In the beginning, God...' one of them?
First things first.

Why does Matthew quote Jeremiah, when in fact it is Zechariah?
When Jesus entered Jerusalem, how many animals did he ride?
What did Jesus tell the high priest when questioned at his trial?
When was the curtain in the temple ripped?
What did the centurion say when Jesus died?
Did Joseph, Mary and baby Jesus return to Nazareth after his birth, or stay in Bethlehem for two years?
 
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First things first.
I totally agree; because if you can't get past Genesis 1, you won't understand the rest.

If Genesis 1, which contains no Internet contradictions whatsoever, is wrong to you, then who cares if those other things you mentioned are right or wrong.
 
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I totally agree; because if you can't get past Genesis 1, you won't understand the rest.

If Genesis 1, which contains no Internet contradictions whatsoever, is wrong to you, then who cares if those other things you mentioned are right or wrong.
Getting past Genesis one is no problem. It's when you get to Genesis two where you begin to see the problems. I recommend you take more of a historical-critical look at your holy book, rather than a blind-devotional acceptance of it. The Bible is full of errors, contradictions and flat-out untruths, some intentional, some not. Oh, and BTW, they were there long before the internets. ;)
 
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Getting past Genesis one is no problem.
We'll see about that.

Is, 'In the beginning, God...' wrong?

(And I do wish you would hurry up and answer, because my next question is even harder! I'm going to restate it, and simply add the next word in the verse! And this is just the tip of the iceberg! :eek:)
 
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We'll see about that.

Is, 'In the beginning, God...' wrong?

(And I do wish you would hurry up and answer, because my next question is even harder! I'm going to restate it, and simply add the next word in the verse! And this is just the tip of the iceberg! :eek:)
How is this a wrong or right question? I accept that there is text where this was actually written down at some point.

You have yet to answer my questions first.
 
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I'm waiting on baited breath for the next question AV. If this is just the tip of the ice cu... er, I mean, berg. I can't wait to answer.

AV, if you're willing to accept the contradictions of G1 & 2, then you're willing to accep them all. I get that. I'm just curious how you reconcile them in your mind?
 
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AV1611VET seems to forget that this is part of the science forum. How about arguing with some science?
Whoever you're talking to, I thought they were arguing with some science.

If they weren't, it sure tasted like science.
 
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But he made it claiming it was an answer. Thanks for admitting he is full of it.

One sentence. Anyone can point holes in one sentence with a thousand words and claim that.
How about you write to Sarfati and tell him why he is wrong, considering you are so confident that he is.

This point is studiously avoided.
One sentence cannot cover such detailed points as you did in your thousand word essay.

So post something on a new thread explaining why you think evolution is nonsense
Not interested.

Wrong. Supposed answers that totally fail to answer the question are not answers
Wrong, that contradicts plain english.

Of course you do not agree with the answer, if you did, you could hardly call yourself an apologist for evolution (or a skeptic of creation).
 
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One sentence. Anyone can point holes in one sentence with a thousand words and claim that.
How about you write to Sarfati and tell him why he is wrong, considering you are so confident that he is.
I already told him on theology web. Let me ask you

Do you really think people took marsupial moles, kangaroos, echidna, kiwis, koalas, wombats, the platypus, Tasmania devils( a foul tempered bad smelling critter), bandicoots, Moas ( a giant predatory bird, now extinct), Cassowarys (a bad tempered bird that is the second largest now living in the world) and the Thylacine (Tasmanian Tiger) to Australia and New Guinea along with all the other animals unique to the area? That would have been some interesting trips in dugout canoes.

One sentence cannot cover such detailed points as you did in your thousand word essay.
He does not have an answer. If you think there is an answer to the biogeography question that actually makes sense and explains the data let's hear it. So far all you have done is claim there are answers when there are none.
Not interested.
So you can't do it?
Wrong, that contradicts plain english.
In plain English, statements that are alleged to be answers to a question but fail to answer the question are not really answer to the question.
Of course you do not agree with the answer, if you did, you could hardly call yourself an apologist for evolution (or a skeptic of creation).
I have explained in some detail why the alleged answers are nonsense. I am skeptical of the worldwide flood because it is falsified by biogeography, geology, palenotology, archeology, biodiversity and any other applicable branch of science.

Now if you think there is any real answer to the question of how all those marsupials and the monotremes got to Australia and the placental mammals did not even though their ancestors all supposedly came off the same boat in the Middle East please post it. Just claiming that someone like Sarfati has answers without even saying what they are is meaningless.
 
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So you can't do it?
There isn't the will. There will be the presentation of chance and necessity ignoring the mechanism at work within adaptation. The presentation of adaptation within organisms acting on the belief that Creationism or created organisms should not have the ability to adapt. The limits observed in adaptation overshadowed by speculations about limitless organisms. These primary conceptions contrary to the scientifically observed acting as a springboard for the rest of Darwinian literature. Then there is the ensuing stalemate which seeks to highlight the "Creationism will not be science" act even though it is more scientifically consistent by acknowledging the facts as stated above. Provided that there is the will or desire to persevere headlong into a gridlock, where a needed past time will manifest as cultured notions of Creationism, the intelligence of Creationists and biblical authors, then it will begin.
 
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I already told him on theology web.
Yes I am sure you did 'told him' you do a lot of that.

Funny that you have not posted a link to his answer, that would be far more convincing than your self assessment.

Do you really think


I don't know. Fortunately the truth of any matter doesn’t entail infallible knowledge by every person that believes the said truth.

So you can't do it?
:bow: whatever you want to beleive. I am not interested in a lot of things that other people are interested in.

In plain English, statements that are alleged to be answers to a question but fail to answer the question are not really answer to the question.
Wrong answer.
 
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Yes I am sure you did 'told him' you do a lot of that.

Funny that you have not posted a link to his answer, that would be far more convincing than your self assessment.
I'll search the board. I posted the question but I don't recall if any of the creationists there answered. It was a long time ago. But if you think Sarfati has any answers beyond the nonsense on the website you linked to why don't you ask him. It is your claim that he has answers. I say he has none and neither does any other YEC.
I don't know. Fortunately the truth of any matter doesn’t entail infallible knowledge by every person that believes the said truth.
In other words you realize it is absurd.
:bow: whatever you want to beleive. I am not interested in a lot of things that other people are interested in.
In other words your mind is made up and you don't want to listen to any amount of facts and logic that show how absurd the supposed YEC answers to the biogeography question are.

Wrong answer.
In other words you don't understand plain English and simple logic.
 
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It is your claim that he has answers.

I dont remember claiming that he has answers to the question of marsupial migration. You seem to be confused about my post to "Hillard" who dogmatically asserts there are no answers to where the water went.

In other words you realize it is absurd.

Great answer! Therefore in the same context, if there is something about evolution that you do not know, that means you realise evolution is absurd.

In other words.....
No other words at all. Everyone has favorite topics, evolution is not one of mine. That is all you need to understand, its simple really.

In other words you don't understand plain English and simple logic.
I am right, you are wrong. There are no other words.
 
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