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Flight 93 Never Crashed In The Empty Shanksville Field

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It was a conspiracy act, but that does not mean that you do not suscribe to a conspiracy theory. For indeed you do, just like everyone who holds any view regarding 9/11. We are all conspiracy theorists.
It's only a theory when there are uncertainties as to what happened. In this case, we know what happened.
 
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It's only a theory when there are uncertainties as to what happened. In this case, we know what happened.

There is a distinction between knowledge and belief. You believe as you do. However, you do not know it, certainly not in the sense that you know, first hand, what happened. As for uncertainties... there remain many. No-one is certain that Hani Hanjour piloted the plane into the Pentagon. No-one is certain as to what caused WTC 7 to collapse, and there is even debate as to the mechanism that caused the simultaneous collapse and disintegration of the Twin Towers. No-one is certain who funded the operation and the 9/11 Commission certainly does not delve into it in its Report. No-one is certain how the passport of one of the terrorists survived the massive inferno of the jet smashing into the tower to land neatly on the street. No-one is certain why Atta even contemplated carrying luggage with his last will on a plane that he intended to destroy. No-one is certain of how much the government knew beforehand. No-one is certain why the Pentagon lied to the 9/11 Commission, or why the CIA with-held witness testimony that the Commission's chair and co-chair claimed 'obstructed' their investigation. No-one is certain why the FBI refuses to release, even under Freedom of Information, all known video footage of the plane slamming into the Pentagon. The numerous 'uncertainties' continue and the questions persist, and you believe as you believe, and so it does remain that the official 9/11 story is a conspiracy theory.
 
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What, exactly, do you want to see?

An intact plane, like a fender bender? Something of off CSI:Miami, where crashed planes never have any more damage than a cracked windshield?

Yes, there was a conspiracy for 9/11. The terrorists conspired.

Perhaps some investigative branches of the American government are hiding things... perhaps they didn't take the warnings seriously enough, perhaps they even had some intilligence that someone on a big scale was going to happen, and didn't action to stop it. But failing to prevent something that seemed outlandish pre-9/11 does not mean that the American government had something to do with 9/11.
 
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No-one is certain that Hani Hanjour piloted the plane into the Pentagon. [/QUOTE

Whether it was Hanjour or another person, we know they flew the plane into the Pentagon



]No-one is certain as to what caused WTC 7 to collapse,

We are pretty certain what caused it to collapse. Really, no one died in WTC 7. Why would they have an incentive to destroy it if they were going to use it an an excuse to start a war in the Middle East?




and there is even debate as to the mechanism that caused the simultaneous collapse and disintegration of the Twin Towers
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The only debate is with kooks

No-one is certain who funded the operation and the 9/11 Commission certainly does not delve into it in its Repor

LOL you have never read the report then. It's in there.


. No-one is certain how the passport of one of the terrorists survived the massive inferno of the jet smashing into the tower to land neatly on the street.

yes..it fell



No-one is certain why Atta even contemplated carrying luggage with his last will on a plane that he intended to destroy.

Who really cares

or why the CIA with-held witness testimony that the Commission's chair and co-chair claimed 'obstructed' their investigation.

Yes, but they didn't say it would have changed the outcome. I can't really picture Thomas Kean interviewing Khlaed Sheik Muhammad, someone that was waterboarded close to 200 times and being able to get anything out of him.


No-one is certain why the FBI refuses to release, even under Freedom of Information, all known video footage of the plane slamming into the Pentagon.


Who really cares? We know a plane slammed into the Pentagon, unless you are doubting that

The numerous 'uncertainties' continue and the questions persist, and you believe as you believe, and so it does remain that the official 9/11 story is a conspiracy theory.

Sorry, the important questions have been answered so the OV is not a conspiracy theory.
 
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What energy source are you prepared to introduce into this equation in order to create the MASSIVE temperatures required to carry out that kind of matter/energy transformation? :0) We do realize that E=MC2! Right? Okay then. We are talking about over 100 TONS of "M" (Mass) and your job is to show us where the "E" (Energy) was released! :0) The "C" (speed of light = 186,000 mps) must be 'squared' (34596000000) and multiplied by the "M" (Mass = 200,000+). Right? Holy cows! And that massive number gives you the amount of energy released in ONE SECOND!! You certainly have a LOT of explaining to do. :0)

Where on earth does e=mc^2 come into play? The rest energy of the mass has nothing to do with anything. What matters is the kinetic energy of impact (which is equivalent to something minuscule like 1500lbs of TNT) and the energy created by resulting explosion.

17000kg (estimated from some random U93 page) of Jet-A, which has 43 megajoules of energy per kilogram, equals 731,000 megajoules of total energy which equals 175 tons of TNT which equals stop posting your ridiculous theories.

edit: You screwed up all the units anyway. Miles per second is not a useful measurement of speed, and pounds aren't units of mass.
 
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We are pretty certain what caused it to collapse. Really, no one died in WTC 7. Why would they have an incentive to destroy it if they were going to use it an an excuse to start a war in the Middle East?

The only debate is with kook

LOL you have never read the report then. It's in there.

yes..it fell

Who really cares

Yes, but they didn't say it would have changed the outcome. I can't really picture Thomas Kean interviewing Khlaed Sheik Muhammad, someone that was waterboarded close to 200 times and being able to get anything out of him.

Who really cares? We know a plane slammed into the Pentagon, unless you are doubting that

Sorry, the important questions have been answered so the OV is not a conspiracy theory.
Where in the Report does the Commission delve into depth regarding the funding of the 9/11 operation? Why is it acceptable for the Commission to rely on third-hand evidence in drawing its conclusions? This brings into question its findings. Many people care as to why Atta left his last will and testament in luggage that was to go on a plane that he intended to destroy. He is apparently a genius for pulling off these attacks, yet simultaneously an idiot for almost destroying his own last will and testament. If architects and structural engineers are kooks by your book, then what incentive have you to listen to anyone? How is it possible that the plane that slammed into the tower and was destroyed in a massive fireball... yet a compilation of paper known as a passport miracously survives... did the black boxes also survive? As for WTC 7 and the Twin Towers... the mechanisms of their collapse and disintegration is of fundamental importance to building safety in construction and structural engineering... are you suggesting no valuable insights could be found in investigating this?... so as to prevent further repeats of the same phenomena. Please do not pretend that all the questions, those listed here and numerous others, are answered - that would be called denial.
 
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Where in the Report does the Commission delve into depth regarding the funding of the 9/11 operation? Why is it acceptable for the Commission to rely on third-hand evidence in drawing its conclusions? This brings into question its findings. Many people care as to why Atta left his last will and testament in luggage that was to go on a plane that he intended to destroy. He is apparently a genius for pulling off these attacks, yet simultaneously an idiot for almost destroying his own last will and testament. If architects and structural engineers are kooks by your book, then what incentive have you to listen to anyone? How is it possible that the plane that slammed into the tower and was destroyed in a massive fireball... yet a compilation of paper known as a passport miracously survives... did the black boxes also survive? As for WTC 7 and the Twin Towers... the mechanisms of their collapse and disintegration is of fundamental importance to building safety in construction and structural engineering... are you suggesting no valuable insights could be found in investigating this?... so as to prevent further repeats of the same phenomena. Please do not pretend that all the questions, those listed here and numerous others, are answered - that would be called denial.

Nope, all the important ones have been answered. No conspiracy here.
 
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Hi Todd:

Todd is still the comedian around here. :0)

Posting that photo over and over isn't going to do it, Terral.

This first OP picture of Official Government Evidence (pic) shows nothing more than AN . . . EMPTY . . . HOLE with a guy walking from our right to our left at about high noon. The OP hypothesis says “Flight 93 NEVER Crashed In The Empty Shanksville Field” and the picture still shows an empty hole! Todd has no explanation for the empty hole where 'his' crashed 100-Ton Jetliner is supposed to be found. :0) Do not expect me to continue bringing out ‘more’ evidence of the empty hole (the website), when Todd cannot explain the very first one in the OP of this thread. This is where Todd has no concept of what ‘debate’ (presentation of opposing views) even means.

You have no explanation for Flight 93 . . .

The OP hypothesis says “Flight 93 NEVER Crashed In The EMPTY Shanksville Field.” What part of that statement are we having trouble understanding? My only job is to prove beyond all doubt that Flight 93 DID NOT crash into this empty Shanksville Field, which is supported by the pictures of THE EMPTY HOLE like this one:

P200057_1a.jpg


Okay, hotshot, where is your crashed 100-Ton Jetliner in the Official Government Evidence Photograph? :0) This is the very location where Todd says a real 100-Ton Jetliner crashed! However, pictures of the EMPTY HOLE (and videos like this one) are simply not good enough for this comedian without a case for anything. How does Todd explain the 'wing-like' depressions in Aeriel Photograph taken back in 1994 of this EMPTY FIELD (pic)? He simply ignores the evidence and 'talks' about whatever comes to his mind today. Like George Carlin, the guy is 'winging it' (pic). :0)

. . . its passengers . . .

What passengers? You have yet to place a crashed Flight 93 in the empty cotton picking hole! :0) Stop feeding us Loyal Bushie Delusions and try to prove that Flight 93 crashed ANYWHERE. GL.

. . . the DNA evidence . . .

What DNA evidence? Did Todd get that from the little 20-feet diameter hole? I suppose that since Todd can actually spell “DNA” that we are supposed to bow down and worship his Loyal Bushie LIES. :0) The Shanksville Coroner said,

Wallace E Miller Coroner

This guy found no Jetliner crash or any dead bodies in the little empty hole. Period!

. . . the flight data . . .

In other words, Todd really thinks the Inside-Job Terrorists are just going to hand over real FDR evidence to cut their own throats. :0) We have the actual conversations between the military pilots and the air traffic controllers telling ‘the’ 911Truth of the matter:

Flight 93 Smoking Gun

This actual conversation evidence matches the EMPTY HOLE pictures 100 percent.

. . . the passenger phone calls, and eyewitness testimony.

In other words, Todd does not require a real crashed 100-Ton Jetliner to appear in ANY of these pictures, because he has the testimony of our government and their witnesses. :0) This guy has been DUPED by Senor Bush and the real Inside-Job Terrorists and now perpetuates those Loyal Bushie LIES using nothing more that ‘talk’ about components of the Official Cover Story, even though I have shown him the pictures of the empty hole in the empty Shanksville field! :0) This is funny . . .

The official version explains ALL of those things.

No sir. Senor Bush and Todd have yet to explain the presence of THE EMPTY HOLE. :0)

Your claim that there were 'no pieces of Flight 93 anywhere on the net' is also blatantly false.

Now Todd is attempting to move the goal posts in this debate, when he has taken no time to make a case for ANYTHING using third-party supported evidence. Flight 93 did NOT crash into this empty field, which ‘is’ supported by the OP evidence no matter how much whining and crying Todd does in this debate. Yes. The real bad guys did plant some evidence over in the woods adjacent to the EMPTY FIELD, which should be expected in any Inside-Job Terrorist attack where the government controls most of the investigation. Posting pictures of planted evidence makes Todd a co-conspirator with the DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Field Operatives running the Disinformation Campaign since before these 9/11 attacks even took place. It is one thing to run around this place being ‘deceived,’ but quite another to go about ‘deceiving’ others with Loyal Bushie NONSENSE.

Todd is doing all of this Loyal Bushie “talk, talk, talk,” because he has NO evidence that a real 100-Ton Jetliner crashed into that little empty hole! The News Footage taken on 9/11 says the debris field spanned three to four miles (video = transcript), but Senor Bush and Todd say this happened (pic). Okay hotshot, so explain how a 100-Ton Jetliner does a nosedive in the middle of AN EMPTY FIELD for debris to travel miles and miles away form this location. :0) Other reports place Flight 93 debris as far away as New Baltimore (story) which is eight miles away!

911Research.Flight93

Flight 93 Crash Site

Rural Pennsylvania Crash Site of the Fourth Jet Commandeered on September 11th


. . . "A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1

Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
How does Todd explain the fact that Flight 93 debris was found six and eight miles away from this tiny little empty hole in the empty Shanksville Field? Hmmmmm? :0) Please forgive, but the guy simply does NOT have sufficient knowledge of this Flight 93 case to even carry on a good conversation. He will continue to keep his head buried in the sand (pic) no matter what anyone says or does in this Flight 93 debate. :0)

Your accusation of exploding ditches and trash dumping is also without a single shred of evidence. Twoofer 101.

Todd sends me empty posts with no links to anything, but then whines that I am the one without any evidence. :0) That is funny and evidence that I am debating against a guy deluded out of his cotton picking mind! I look forward to seeing Todd’s “Flight 93 Crashed In Shanksville” Opening Post, if he ever pulls his head out of the sand long enough to write one. :0)

In Christ Jesus,

Terral
 
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Hi James:

Terral has no grasp of reality. He makes things up as he goes and refuses to address pictures as evidence when they clearly show plane wreckage. Its like arguing with a wall, but the wall may actually have more sense.

Stop trolling and start explaining why all of the Shanksville Pictures include AN EMPTY HOLE. Grace us with your answers to Post #89 above, because we already know your partner has not one clue . . .

GL,

Terral
 
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Terral,

Stop trolling and tell us why there were plane parts and body parts everywhere. The coroner picked up over 600 pounds of human remains on the site. Are you saying human remains were also planted on the site? What happened to the people onboard? Do you have any witnesses that said plane parts and human remains were planted?
It is laughable you use the quote from the coroner. He is the one that rounded up all of the body parts..LOL Wow can you hold a job? Are you on medication?
 
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Hi James:

Terral,

Stop trolling and tell us why there were plane parts and body parts everywhere. The coroner picked up over 600 pounds of human remains on the site. Are you saying human remains were also planted on the site?

ONLY in your deluded mind, James! Please try to support that "600 pound" assertion with some kind of 'coroner evidence.' GL. Your posts never contain anything but more ridiculous "talk" without third-party corroborating evidence from ANYWHERE. Your "600 pounds" (Holy cow!) assertion above contradicts the statements of the coroner that looked down into the empty hole on 9/11. Please point out the "600 pounds" of human body parts anywhere inside or outside this empty hole. GL.

James Has No Clue

I suppose James and Todd will never get around to writing rebuttals against anything in Post #89 like they refuse to address my arguments from the Opening Post. No mystery here . . .

This is perhaps the most one-sided debate in CF.com history! :0)

In Christ Jesus,

Terral
 
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Dude you have been owned so many times..you could not debate yourself out of a wet paper bag. I know its one sided. You have lost..its easy to debate someone that does not have a grasp on reality such as yourself. HEre is the info you asked for. Read it and weep.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A56110-2002May8

As coroner, responsible for returning human remains, Miller has been forced to share with the families information that is unimaginable. As he clinically recounts to them, holding back very few details, the 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. They were essentially cremated together upon impact. Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total
 
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Hi James:

Dude you have been owned so many times..you could not debate yourself out of a wet paper bag. I know its one sided. You have lost..its easy to debate someone that does not have a grasp on reality such as yourself. HEre is the info you asked for. Read it and weep.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A56110-2002May8

The story says (my pic) included,

"Miller was among the very first to arrive after 10:06 on the magnificently sunny morning of September 11. He was stunned at how small the smoking crater looked, he says, "like someone took a scrap truck, dug a 10-foot ditch and dumped all this trash into it (my close up pic)." Once he was able to absorb the scene, Miller says, "I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were NO BODIES there. It became like a giant funeral service." As a funeral director, Miller says, he is honored and humbled to preside over what has become essentially an immense cemetery stretching far into the scenic wooded mountain ridge. He considers it the final resting place of 40 national heroes."
The story says, "Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods FOR WEEKS were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total."

In other words, the 'coroner' we are talking about never saw one body or even a piece of a body inside that little hole. Click on the "my pic" above (or this one) and show us how ANYONE could place 600 pounds of human remains in this hole. The investigators are Not even searching down in the EMPTY HOLE. Yes, some DNA evidence came 'from somewhere,' but check the OP Topic again and weep for your own weak and feeble case . . . Other people ran around 'claiming' that they found this and that in the woods, but as we have already seen, the debris field extends eight miles away to New Baltimore (story).


Click on the 'story' link and right away you can see the Official Picture Evidence showing OUR EMPTY HOLE on this website. You are intentionally looking right pass the EMPTY HOLE to believe whatever story Senor Bush invented to delude Americans into invading Iraq, so on and so forth.

In Christ Jesus,

Terral
 
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Hi James:



The story says (my pic) included,

The story says, "Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods FOR WEEKS were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total."

In other words, the 'coroner' we are talking about never saw one body or even a piece of a body inside that little hole. Click on the "my pic" above (or this one) and show us how ANYONE could place 600 pounds of human remains in this hole. The investigators are Not even searching down in the EMPTY HOLE. Yes, some DNA evidence came 'from somewhere,' but check the OP Topic again and weep for your own weak and feeble case . . . Other people ran around 'claiming' that they found this and that in the woods, but as we have already seen, the debris field extends eight miles away to New Baltimore (story).


Click on the 'story' link and right away you can see the Official Picture Evidence showing OUR EMPTY HOLE on this website. You are intentionally looking right pass the EMPTY HOLE to believe whatever story Senor Bush invented to delude Americans into invading Iraq, so on and so forth.

In Christ Jesus,

Terral


Dude you are delusional. They found human remains near the crash site. 600 pounds worth. They had to be fresh or else they would have decomposed. There was a plane crash there. People died there. It is also laughable that you believe the debris field was 8 miles. That is if you take the ROADS..not if you go in a straight line from crash site to where pieces of paper were found. Geez



Answer these questions
1. Why were plane parts found there?
2. Why were body parts found there?
3. Do you have any witnesses to show body parts/plane parts were planted there?
4. What happened to the people that were allegedly on the plane?



We are waiting for your answers
 
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Greetings to All with James mentioned:

Dude you are delusional . . .

If none of the Official Cover Story folks can produce one picture of Flight 93 crashed in this empty field (none exist), then we are ready to begin debate on the Flight 77/Pentagon Case. No sir. I will not be feeding any more of these pesky trolls. :0)

I will have that presentation ready by in the morning. Thank you very much to everyone making a contribution to this discussion. God bless,

In Christ Jesus,

Terral
 
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This first OP picture of Official Government Evidence (pic) shows nothing more than AN . . . EMPTY . . . HOLE with a guy walking from our right to our left at about high noon. The OP hypothesis says “Flight 93 NEVER Crashed In The Empty Shanksville Field” and the picture still shows an empty hole! Todd has no explanation for the empty hole where 'his' crashed 100-Ton Jetliner is supposed to be found. :0) Do not expect me to continue bringing out ‘more’ evidence of the empty hole (the website), when Todd cannot explain the very first one in the OP of this thread. This is where Todd has no concept of what ‘debate’ (presentation of opposing views) even means.


Earlier, you viewed an engine part being dug up out of that 'empty hole', genius. You can show that picture all you want, it won't erase the parts of the plane you've seen (the ones you conveniently skipped over from your raid of Moussaoui trial pictures), the DNA evidence, the flight data, nor the eyewitness testimonies to back it up.

Try again, but be even more desperate this time. It's really working.

Terral said:
The OP hypothesis says “Flight 93 NEVER Crashed In The EMPTY Shanksville Field.” What part of that statement are we having trouble understanding? My only job is to prove beyond all doubt that Flight 93 DID NOT crash into this empty Shanksville Field, which is supported by the pictures of THE EMPTY HOLE like this one:

P200057_1a.jpg


Okay, hotshot, where is your crashed 100-Ton Jetliner in the Official Government Evidence Photograph? :0) This is the very location where Todd says a real 100-Ton Jetliner crashed! However, pictures of the EMPTY HOLE (and videos like this one) are simply not good enough for this comedian without a case for anything. How does Todd explain the 'wing-like' depressions in Aeriel Photograph taken back in 1994 of this EMPTY FIELD (pic)? He simply ignores the evidence and 'talks' about whatever comes to his mind today. Like George Carlin, the guy is 'winging it' (pic). :0)

Again, why don't you show a satellite photograph of planet earth and challenge me to point out the wreckage in that photo, too? ;) Your deliberate charlatanism is disgusting.

Terral said:
What passengers? You have yet to place a crashed Flight 93 in the empty cotton picking hole! :0) Stop feeding us Loyal Bushie Delusions and try to prove that Flight 93 crashed ANYWHERE. GL.

Again, your personal incredulity does not equal an 'argument'. You first said there were no parts of the plane. Then, when we showed them to you, you simply claimed they were 'planted', and have produced no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim. I'm still waiting on pictures of that trash truck pulling up to the 'exploding ditch'. In the meantime, you can post 10 more pictures of a near-satellite photo all you want. I don't worry about children's arguments.

Terral said:
What DNA evidence? Did Todd get that from the little 20-feet diameter hole? I suppose that since Todd can actually spell “DNA” that we are supposed to bow down and worship his Loyal Bushie LIES. :0) The Shanksville Coroner said,

Wallace E Miller Coroner

This guy found no Jetliner crash or any dead bodies in the little empty hole. Period!

Yeah, this is the same guy who reported the DNA evidence, so trying to portray him as disbelieving in the crash and human remains is, uh.....quite a stretch.

I agree with him......there were no 'bodies' in that hole that he could see. If you think intact bodies survived a 500+ mph crash into the ground, then that's your own personal mental disorder. Please upgrade your medication, or pray harder.

Terral said:
Posting pictures of planted evidence makes Todd a co-conspirator with the DoD/FBI Counterintelligence Field Operatives running the Disinformation Campaign since before these 9/11 attacks even took place.

WOW! I hope I don't get arrested! :D

By the way, where's your evidence for your claim of 'planted parts'? Oh, that's right.....you're a Twoofer; you don't require evidence for your claims.

I really hope I don't get thrown in the prison for my lies! Save me, Terral! :thumbsup:

I also love how you reference me in third-person when you're addressing me. Apparently, you think you are commanding some huge audience of lurkers that are swallowing your every (delusional) word. Your ego appears to be larger than your imaginary gub'ment conspiracy.

If you wish, we can start a poll to see how 'persuasive' you have been. I would like to know how many people think a trash truck backed up and dumped garbage in an 'exploding ditch'.

Anyway, get back to me with more circus. I must warn you; I won't be able to read it until later, because I have a job. Don't be jealous, sweetie!


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Dude you are delusional. They found human remains near the crash site. 600 pounds worth. They had to be fresh or else they would have decomposed. There was a plane crash there. People died there. It is also laughable that you believe the debris field was 8 miles. That is if you take the ROADS..not if you go in a straight line from crash site to where pieces of paper were found. Geez



Answer these questions
1. Why were plane parts found there?
2. Why were body parts found there?
3. Do you have any witnesses to show body parts/plane parts were planted there?
4. What happened to the people that were allegedly on the plane?



We are waiting for your answers
Part of the problem is that he seems to think the pplane "landed" in the field and can't see the difference between that and CRASHING in the field at 500 mph
 
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Greetings to All with James mentioned:



If none of the Official Cover Story folks can produce one picture of Flight 93 crashed in this empty field (none exist), then we are ready to begin debate on the Flight 77/Pentagon Case. No sir. I will not be feeding any more of these pesky trolls. :0)

I will have that presentation ready by in the morning. Thank you very much to everyone making a contribution to this discussion. God bless,

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

Dude are you simply crazy? How many photos of plane parts need to be produced? We already have evidence of human remains

But once again you are dodging these questions. Please answer them

I will repost them just in case you forgot what they are

Answer these questions
1. Why were plane parts found there?
2. Why were body parts found there?
3. Do you have any witnesses to show body parts/plane parts were planted there?
4. What happened to the people that were allegedly on the plane?
 
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Hi Todd:

Still trolling? :0) This wont take long . . .

Earlier, you viewed an engine part being dug up out of that 'empty hole', genius.

We are looking for two of these (engines), along with a crashed 100-Ton Jetliner, and not a few scraps of rusty metal someone planted at the crime scene. Perhaps Todd missed the part about all the grass growing on all the incline slopes (pic) all the way down to bottom of the EMPTY HOLE (story again). Todd has been challenged to solve the riddle of how ‘your’ rusty planted engine found its way underneath the growing grass, but he would rather point to one little piece of ‘planted’ evidence to represent a real crashed 100-Ton Jetliner (pictures). Yes, BTW. My IQ has been tested numerous times in my life and each time revealed a genius intelligence quotient. :0)

You can show that picture all you want, it won't erase the parts of the plane you've seen (the ones you conveniently skipped over from your raid of Moussaoui trial pictures), the DNA evidence, the flight data, nor the eyewitness testimonies to back it up.

Please forgive, but I am not here to convince the trolls of anything. All of my posts are drafted for the benefit of the ‘unbiased’ third-party reader very much interested in seeing ‘the truth’ in my Bible posts and ‘the 911Truth’ in these debates. James and Todd would make poor debating adversaries, if your interpretations of the evidence lined up anywhere near mine. If you really want to see crashed 100-Ton Jetliners where none ever crashed, then by golly that is your God-given right. The reason you are carrying on about Zacarias Moussaoui and DNA evidence and FDR evidence and what people ‘say’ is because you have NO CASE for Flight 93 crashing in this empty field on 9/11 or anywhere else. :0) Let’s pretend Todd’s job is to prove that ValuJet Flight 592 really did crash after leaving Miami International Airport on May 11, 1996.

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Let’s suppose that my OP claim says that “Flight 592 Never Crashed In The Browns Farm Wildlife Management Area” and your job is to prove me wrong. All Todd has to do is locate verifiable and credible third-party sources and post images like this:

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Now ‘that’ is evidence for a real crashed DC-9 that is less than half the size of Flight 93 and Flight 77! We have tons and tons and tons and tons of Jet debris laid out in hanger after hanger after hanger part of a ‘real’ Jetliner Crash Investigation. Where is the need to talk about DNA or what witnesses say or any other NONSENSE that is coming out of Todd’s mouth right now? :0) The only reason Todd is talking and talking and talking about everything else under the sun is because he does NOT have pictures of a real crashed Flight 93, because NONE EXIST. If so, we would have pictures of twice as much Jetliner debris as for this Flight 592 case and an aircraft that weighs in at only 98,000 pounds (specs). Todd is calling this (pic) rusty bit of metal real ‘evidence’ of for a real 100-Ton Jetliner crash, when we have way over 100 times the evidence for a ‘real’ Jetliner crash that is only half the size. :0)

Todd and James and MANY other people ‘want’ to believe a real 100-Ton Jetliner crashed in the empty Shanksville field ‘and’ at the Pentagon, because that is what ‘they’ want to believe apart from any real evidence. That is ‘their’ right, of course, but this guy has studied ‘all’ the 9/11 evidence very carefully for years now and knows otherwise . . .

In Christ Jesus,

Terral
 
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