Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[trophy33]

There’s really no need to use it. The flights in the southern hemisphere, even those which are merely trans-continental, would take impossibly long times according to the map that she uses.

I am afraid she still does not understand the logic of it. Or simply does not believe the flights exists. I do not know, she frequently keeps radio silence when she was proven false, then she reappears with another unrelated video like if the flat earth got another chance or something.

 

[Apple Sky]

What you don't realise is that you claim that gravity, the shape of the earth etc. are theories

Yes gravity is a theory, when it comes to gravity it's better to look at the density of an item when it either falls or rises, but the earth together with the moon orbiting the sun is an all out lie, I can't & I wont ever believe this nonsense.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

but the earth together with the moon orbiting the sun is an all out lie,

Why do you think that?

 

[The Liturgist]

I have used the Rahlf's Septuagint (in Greek), sometimes the Brenton translation. Then I bought the NETS translation, discovered that everything has various versions and several possible variants of translations (for example in Daniel), then I basically gave up. Reading only casually.

Forgive me, but why would the multiplicity of versions make you give up? I don’t follow the logic there at all. The differences are either subtle variations in the choice of word or else, in the case of Daniel, the Septuagint version includes Bel and the Dragon and the canticle Benedicite Omni Opera, for instance, and the Septuagint version of Esther, which is rather nicer than the Masoretic version, contains a beautiful prayer made by St. Esther’s father (which adds a spiritual dimension lacking in the Masoretic version - I understand why Martin Luther wanted to remove the Masoretic version from the canon, on the basis that it was arguably Hebrew nationalist rather than religious in nature, but this is not true of the Septuagint version, and the Septuagint versions of the Old Testament have the advantage of being quoted in the New, and also of being supported by some of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

As I see it, the diversity of scriptural texts is a source of wonder. If one is concerned about what versions to use as a definitive resource, I advise people to either follow the versions used by the lectionary of their church, or to use the Vulgate, the West Syriac Peshitto (which differs from the East Syriac Peshitta in that it has the extra five books from the Athanasian canon which the Peshitta lacked, as translated by St. Thomas of Harqel, if I recall these are Revelation, 2 Peter, 2 John, 3 John and Jude), or the Orthodox Study Bible, which has a very robust translation of the Peshitta coupled to an NKJV New Testament and which includes the best doctrinal commentary of any study Bible.

Also in terms of the Psalms, A Psalter for Prayer by Holy Trinity Monastery in Jordanville, New York, is ideal, in that it contains the Coverdale Psalter, as used in the Anglican Book of Common Prayer, which has been retained in Anglicanism for purposes of singing the Psalms, even though the KJV is the official bible of Anglicanism, since the Coverdale was found to be better for liturgical use than the KJV psalter, albeit the Jordanville version has been corrected according to the Septuagint, and also includes useful supplemental material, such as the original version of the Athanasian creed, sans the filioque (it is the only book I know of which contains an English translation of the original creed).

 

[Apple Sky]

Why do you think that?

Because the Bible tells me so.

 

[The Liturgist]

You could have a Christian who believes the earth is flat; they are born again, trust in Jesus, are filled with his Spirit, are a child of God, read his word regularly and serve him daily.

Although, if they accuse NASA and millions of other people of lying or participating in a Satanic conspiracy, that would not be a spiritually healthy condition, since slander is an extremely grave sin, one that is Scripturally and Patristically related to murder.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes gravity is a theory, when it comes to gravity it's better to look at the density of an item when it either falls or rises, but the earth together with the moon orbiting the sun is an all out lie, I can't & I wont ever believe this nonsense.

You will one day; you'll know all things and be able to see it for yourself.

My point was, though, that almost everything you post is a theory. You post in the conspiracy theories section.
Apparently, your theories are fact, while scientific theories are nonsense. Even though they can be demonstrated and tested.

 

[The Liturgist]

Because the Bible tells me so.

What does the Bible tell you about slander?

 

[trophy33]

Forgive me, but why would the multiplicity of versions make you give up? I don’t follow the logic there at all. The differences are either subtle variations in the choice of word or else, in the case of Daniel, the Septuagint version includes Bel and the Dragon...

The book of Daniel has several different versions - Old Greek, Theodotion, the Masoretic text and probably some other, not sure from the memory, now. Thats one problem.

Another problem is that the prophecies in the book are so ambiguous that they can be read in basically the opposite ways (about Christ or about antichrist) and to make it even worse, almost every sentence can mean anything, because the language is so ambiguous. In any version. So, there are so many combinations that I gave up studying such things too deeply. I know of no way to decide which reading is the right one.

 

[The Liturgist]

You will one day; you'll know all things and be able to see it for yourself.

My point was, though, that almost everything you post is a theory. You post in the conspiracy theories section.
Apparently, your theories are fact, while scientific theories are nonsense. Even though they can be demonstrated and tested.

And it is within her power to test them, and I have repeatedly urged her to do so, but she refuses.

 

[The Liturgist]

The book of Daniel has several different versions - Old Greek, Theodotion, Masoretic text and probably some other, not sure from the memory, now. Thats one problem.

How is that a problem?

Another problem is that the prophecies in the book are so ambiguous that they can be read in basically the opposite ways (about Christ or about antichrist) and to make it even worse, almost every sentence can mean anything, because the language is so ambiguous. In any version. So, there are so many combinations that I gave up studying such things too deeply.

There is a Patristic interpretation of those prophecies which all ancient churches and the major Protestant reformers such as Luther, Cranmer, Calvin and Wesley adhered to.

 

[Apple Sky]

What does the Bible tell you about slander?

What does the Bible tell you about lies & deceptiveness ?

 

[trophy33]

How is that a problem?

I am not sure if I understand the question. How is the uncertainty what the text is supposed to be not a problem?

There is a Patristic interpretation of those prophecies which all ancient churches and the major Protestant reformers such as Luther, Cranmer, Calvin and Wesley adhered to.

I do not know what text exactly they saw. If they even knew there are different texts. I think we have more sources than they did, thats why our situation is more complicated and our dogmas less dogmatic.

Do you have the NETS translation? You can check for example here: https://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/40-daniel-nets.pdf

The two versions they included in their print are so different that they basically had to have the whole book of Daniel translated twice.

 

[Strong in Him]

Because the Bible tells me so.

But it doesn't!

Do you think we're incapable of reading, or something?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Because the Bible tells me so.

Where?

 

[Apple Sky]

But it doesn't!

Do you think we're incapable of reading, or something?

It does, it tells me where the two great lights are & the stars, it tells me how the earth is unmovable & so much more.......

 

[Apple Sky]

Where?

Genesis 1.

 

[trophy33]

It does, it tells me where the two great lights are & the stars, it tells me how the earth is unmovable & so much more.......

It was not written to you.

 

[Apple Sky]

It was not written to you.

It was written for all to read.

 

[trophy33]

It was written for all to read.

Nope. It was written by Jews to Jews. Is the command to stone adulterers also written to you? Or do you cherrypick?