Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[The Liturgist]

Does someone have to spell it out for you as to what foundations are ?

Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its foundations set, or who laid its cornerstone, Job 38:5

No mention of a black magnetic tower there either. I really would like to see, like @prodromos , the verse that makes you believe the world rests atop a black magnetic tower.

 

[trophy33]

The earth does not move it is still. The sun and the moon are exactly the same size which move from east to west counting our days in a year which are 365.
The only things that are in motion is the sun. moon & the stars which are set in the firmament which today they call the Van Alan Belts.
The sun, moon & the stars are set in motion via a magnetic black tower which resides at the center of the earth which is at at the north pole under the star Polaris & Antarctica circumferences the earth 360%.
The planets are but wondering stars.

Explain sunsets, eclipses, gravity, with your model. And what math do you use to calculate the trajectories of planets and to predict eclipses.

 

[The Liturgist]

Explain sunsets, eclipses, gravity, with your model. And what math do you use to calculate the trajectories of planets and to predict eclipses.

But before she does that, I really want to know where the idea of this magnetic black tower came from.

 

[Apple Sky]

Explain sunsets, eclipses, gravity, with your model. And what math do you use to calculate the trajectories of planets and to predict eclipses.

To be honest, I can't as I don't know enough about them - Soz

 

[Apple Sky]

But before she does that, I really want to know where the idea of this magnetic black tower came from.

The Rupes Nigra (Black Rock)

Mercator shaped the view on the world and the Arctic

The work of Flemish cartographer Gerardus Mercator helped to shape the view on the world and also influenced the view on the Arctic region for many centuries and many famous Arctic explorers.

polarjournal.ch

 

[prodromos]

The Rupes Nigra (Black Rock)

Mercator shaped the view on the world and the Arctic

The work of Flemish cartographer Gerardus Mercator helped to shape the view on the world and also influenced the view on the Arctic region for many centuries and many famous Arctic explorers.

polarjournal.ch

Do you even bother reading the sources you link?

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you even bother reading the sources you link?

Yes .........

 

[prodromos]

Yes .........

So you know there is no actual black rock or tower at the North Pole. It was something Mercator assumed was there to cause compass needles to point North

 

[The Liturgist]

So you know there is no actual black rock or tower at the North Pole. It was something Mercator assumed was there to cause compass needles to point North

And also use of a similarly inaccurate map caused the loss of the Jeanette.

But what is more, Mercator believed the world was round and his map also differs from the Flat Earth map you have been insisting upon

 

[trophy33]

To be honest, I can't as I don't know enough about them - Soz

Your model is totally useless, then. It cannot explain even the most basic things and we cannot use it to predict or calculate anything.

All the discussion should end right there.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your model is totally useless, then. It cannot explain even the most basic things and we cannot use it to predict or calculate anything.

I can't explain them but I know a guy who can

 

[trophy33]

I can't explain them but I know a guy who can

Nope. He cannot, thats why you cannot,too. You do not understand what he is saying, it only sounds good, to you.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you know there is no actual black rock or tower at the North Pole. It was something Mercator assumed was there to cause compass needles to point North

Yes there is, they just don't want you know about it as it would prove a f/e.

Admiral Byrd even flew his plain to it.

 

[prodromos]

Yes there is, they just don't want you know about it as it would prove a f/e.

Admiral Byrd even flew his plain to it.

You follow some real nut jobs, don't you.

 

[Apple Sky]

You follow some real nut jobs, don't you.

No I follow the truth.

 

[prodromos]

No I follow the truth.

That isn't how you spell fantasy

 

[Phil G]

No I follow the truth.

Sorry, but you have acknowledged that you do not understand how either a flat earth or a globe earth would work. You have ridiculed scientific explanations without even the slightest grasp of those explanations. Yet you post YouTube videos which push conspiracy theories based on mythologies, Hollywood movies and highly dubious accounts, none of which you can understand or can explain in any meaningful way (again by your own acknowledgement).

You also misrepresent Scripture by making claims the Bible teaches a flat earth yet in the past you have acknowledged that it doesn't. When you are challenged on this I have seen you say neither does it teach a globe earth - which is actually true - it neither teaches a flat earth nor a globe earth. Yet you still insist that is where you base your claims of a flat earth.

The upshot is that your claims are actually based on conspiracy theories from some very flaky operators who are at best delusional and at worst telling downright lies. And you think you are going to convince anyone to abandon their own knowledge of the evidence of a globe earth based on this?

 

[Apple Sky]

And you think you are going to convince anyone to abandon their own knowledge of the evidence of a globe earth

There is no evidence of a globe earth, if there were I would believe it.

 

[Phil G]

There is no evidence of a globe earth, if there were I would believe it.

And there you go again, there is plenty of evidence. It’s the reason why people reject the flat earth. The globe earth model came about by observational evidence. The problem is you don’t understand it.

 

[Apple Sky]

And there you go again, there is plenty of evidence.

Show me then.