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I will, you're doing nothing to disabuse me of that opinion.
Is my opposition to FEism is based on ignorance of the arguments, what gives you that impression? The mere fact that I disagree with you?
I believe my only contribution to this thread was to ask you what the motivation is for this grand conspiracy, you failed to respond.
(Edit, my mistake, I've made a couple of stupid jokes too)
What I think the motivation might be is irrelevant.
Nope. Do you actually think pictures are proof?
Verifiable satellite images?...yes, those would constitute proof.
I'll restate an earlier question...that would be "Why?" Would would a group conspire to convince people of a globe-earth if it were actually flat? What would be the end goal in that? For them to pull that off, it'd have to be the most-well planned, thoroughly executed hoax of all time...and for what? What exactly would that accomplish?
For instance, in the 9/11 conspiracy theories, the supposed goal was "So Bush could get the support he wanted for military involvement because if people got mad at entities in the Middle East, they'd back his agenda"...
What's the equivalent here?
From what I can tell, it's seems to be nothing more than an underlying anti-Science sentiment by people who don't like some other things that scientific data suggests pertaining to origins and other things that conflict with their religion, so they want to oppose official science whenever they have the chance. Thus the reason they reject medical and ecological science as well.
They start with the premise that "The officially scientific report is always a hoax", and then proceed to go out and specifically search for things that agree with their position.
Don't know the answer to that anymore than I can answer why hordes of people seek to deceive the world into believing evolution. All I know is that just as evolution is a lie that is forced on us since birth.
It seems you know about as much as Jon Snow.
Empirical evidence doesn't lie.
It seems you know about as much as Jon Snow.
At least Jon Snow knew better than to argue the point ...
I asked you for photographic evidence. You have failed to provide this. If there was any evidence you would provide some but I will assume that since you cannot provide me with any evidence that your claim is nothing more than just your belief.I haven't ignored anything. If fact, I've been extremely open if letting you all know if you actually cared about it, there is evidence available. And yes, you are confused if you think I'm under any obligation to prove anything to you or any one else one way or another.
I've also asked for proof as well of a ball earth demonstrating a measurable curve and motion, and all I get is pictures and reference to an incorrect 2000+ year old Greek assumption. None of you have given me anything either other than proclaiming your faith in the word of known liars. And while there is no obligation on a globers part to prove anything to me, at least put a little effort into it when you try. There's only been one measurement attempt by the globers that has ever gone their way that I'm aware of, and that was a Discovery Channel show, with Stephen Hawking, where they take 3 measurements, one they get completely wrong because they measure the wrong spot, and another uses video fakery.
Flat earth has hundreds, maybe thousands, of contemporary experiments where actual measurements are taken demonstrating there is zero evidence of a 8 inch per mile squared curve, and the globers have a discredited test by some Greek dude over 2,000 years ago. An honest person might think, 'hey, maybe I don't know everything already and should check this out to see what's going on.' And you're in luck, a lot of it is documented in video, and I know how much you all like pictures and video as primary sources of evidence.
Here's a quick ignorance test.
If you think the Eratosthenes experiment proved anything, or if you still think ships go over a horizon, or if you still think visibility would be infinite on a flat earth, or if you still think motion of the earth has ever been detected, or if you still think the earth is demonstrably shown to be curving at 8 inches per mile squared, then you are wandering around in the dark without a clue as to what is really going on around you.
I understand the programming you all are still under, which results in an initial denial of the subject. What I don't understand is the intellectual laziness on parade here. How people can be confronted with the possibility that they've been lied to and choose to not confront it and see for themselves is beyond me. I won't entertain the intellectually lazy in this matter any more. You all can chalk it up as some sort of victory in your heads if you wish, but you've actually lost more than you know.
I asked you for photographic evidence. You have failed to provide this. If there was any evidence you would provide some but I will assume that since you cannot provide me with any evidence that your claim is nothing more than just your belief.
Did you know that China is on the same continent as the United States? I have evidence if you actually cared about it you will find it. I’m not under any obligation though to provide you with any evidence. You are just being intellectually lazy if you do not want to go find the evidence.
Listen if I have been lied to then it’s my own eyes that have lied because I have seen the curvature of the earth from just flying in a plane.
*sigh*
This really is going over your head isn't?
Anyway back to ignore we go...
Saying "there's plenty of info out there", isn't the same as providing said info.
If there is plenty of info, then it shouldn't be hard for you to provide some links or evidence to support FE claims.
This is surely what it's really all about.... A self-satisfied, smug feeling of intellectual superiority over us "sheep".
Nice excuse not to post any photographic or video evidence to support your claim.I've already said many times I'm not doing that with this group any longer. Just reminding there are alternatives to the lie you've been forced-fed your whole lives.
I provide evidence, I'm insulted and mocked, then I don't provide evidence, and I'm insulted and mocked. What a hateful group of people reside on the forum.
I'm just using your logic. Sounds pretty ridiculous when I do it right?More mockery. You people are just amazing.
First person accounts are not evidence? You must have been there to know what I was looking at then. Apparently first person accounts or photographs are not evidence in your world.No, you haven't. Even if I were a glober still, that wouldn't hold water. You are really deep in the lie enough that you convince yourself that you're seeing things that aren't there.
But but but... Experiments!Lol you aren’t confusing me at all. I asked you for any photographic/video evidence of a flat earth and you just ignore the question. If there were plenty of info then how come there are no pictures or videos? I’m very open minded and curious except the problem is there is absolutely no proof. Only your wacky conspiracy claims. You notice there are no scientific claims to back up a flat earth?
Flounce part II.Again, I'm done with offering this group anything but knowledge of an alternative to the lie. I've presented proof over and over again in prior threads. Pretending that I haven't won't make it go away.
Don't forget the "I'm woke" appeal that some people find in conspiracy theories.Verifiable satellite images?...yes, those would constitute proof.
I'll restate an earlier question...that would be "Why?" Would would a group conspire to convince people of a globe-earth if it were actually flat? What would be the end goal in that? For them to pull that off, it'd have to be the most-well planned, thoroughly executed hoax of all time...and for what? What exactly would that accomplish?
For instance, in the 9/11 conspiracy theories, the supposed goal was "So Bush could get the support he wanted for military involvement because if people got mad at entities in the Middle East, they'd back his agenda"...
What's the equivalent here?
From what I can tell, it's seems to be nothing more than an underlying anti-Science sentiment by people who don't like some other things that scientific data suggests pertaining to origins and other things that conflict with their religion, so they want to oppose official science whenever they have the chance. Thus the reason they reject medical and ecological science as well.
They start with the premise that "The officially scientific report is always a hoax", and then proceed to go out and specifically search for things that agree with their position.
Don't forget the "I'm woke" appeal that some people find in conspiracy theories.
I provide evidence, I'm insulted and mocked, then I don't provide evidence, and I'm insulted and mocked.
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