Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why

[Phil G]

I can't read the words in smaller print on the T-shirt, just "Catch up with Jesus". But what I can read says nothing about what you said you'd worn the T-shirt for. Phil G had written: "I dare you to research the evidence without the input of flat earth YouTubers and come to your own conclusions based on real facts." You answered that you had done that and got the T-shirt, but this T-shirt doesn't seem to say anything about the shape of the earth, unless it's in the small print.

It’s just one of her comedic interludes. We all know (including @Apple Sky ) that she hasn’t done the necessary research to informatively refute the globe earth.

 

[Phil G]

How do you work this one out ?

They’re on the T-shirt….

 

[Apple Sky]

They’re on the T-shirt….

Are they ?

 

[Phil G]

Are they ?

Well, if you don’t know the shape of tomatoes, you should have gone to Specsavers!

 

[Apple Sky]

Well, if you don’t know the shape of tomatoes, you should have gone to Specsavers!

Ah but there's two, what does this suggest ?

 

[Phil G]

Ah but there's two, what does this suggest ?

Hmmm, oh I know, the earth and it’s orbiting moon…tada!!

 

[Apple Sky]

Hmmm, oh I know, the earth and it’s orbiting moon…tada!!

Or maybe two spinning globes ...........

 

[Phil G]

Or maybe two spinning globes ...........

We're getting back to what I said in the first place....two red globes.

However in reality, the T-shirt is just being corny: "Cuz He loves me from my head to-ma-toes".

 

[Strong in Him]

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What is puzzling. Is not that you believe in a globe earth, but that you will not admit the creation in The Bible is not the creation science says it is.

I don't what you're talking about.

Genesis 1 says that in the beginning God made the heavens and the earth.
All the way through the chapter it says "God said", "God saw", "God made", "God called". It does not say "having created creatures of the sea, God decided to give some fins, some tails, some beaks, he did this by ....... and it took him this amount of time." In other words Genesis tells us WHY the heavens and earth were created - because God wanted them to be - but does not got into detail about HOW he made them.

And creation and science are not opposites.

 

[Apple Sky]

You answered that you had done that and got the T-shirt, but this T-shirt doesn't seem to say anything about the shape of the earth, unless it's in the small print.

Your OK, I couldn't read it myself, I think it said this ............

 

[Apple Sky]

Does space exist as NASA portrays it, or is it as God says it is ?

 

[Phil G]

Does space exist as NASA portrays it, or is it as God says it is ?

First, stop trying to twist God’s words. Second, it is well established that the earth is a globe and that “space” is a vacuum. It’s reality. Your view of what God says is therefore wrong.

It’s very strange that you try to limit God’s creation into a finite dome. You portray a weak insignificant god rather than the one true almighty God, who created something so vast, immeasurable and complex that it will always be beyond human understanding. That’s the God I believe.

 

[prodromos]

Does space exist as NASA portrays it, or is it as God says it is ?

Why limit yourself to NASA? Why don't you consider CNSA or CNES or ESA or JAXA or ROSCOSMOS or ISRO?

 

[Apple Sky]

It’s very strange that you try to limit God’s creation into a finite dome

Why it's true, it's better than what you are doing and placing God's creation in some supposed distant galaxy.

 

[Phil G]

Why it's true, it's better than what you are doing and placing God's creation in some supposed distant galaxy.

You’re not making any sense. I haven’t placed God’s creation in “some supposed distant galaxy.” Now you’re twisting my words to suit yourself. It seems to be a common tactic of yours to twist words.

The fact is God’s infinitely complex & vast creation (which includes numerous galaxies and other wondrous things that mankind has discovered and has yet to discover) mirrors His infinitely vast majesty, power and authority. A weensy little dome over a circle is much more in keeping with Satan’s weakness than God’s power.

 

[Apple Sky]

You’re not making any sense. I haven’t placed God’s creation in “some supposed distant galaxy.”

You haven't but NASA has.

If you believe this then You'll believe anything.

 

[Phil G]

You haven't but NASA has.

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If you believe this then You'll believe anything.

That’s pointing to where the earth is believed to be, which is part of God’s creation. It does not indicate that God’s creation is in a galaxy, but that it is all God’s creation, everything is His creation.

As for NASA, your fixation is ridiculous at this stage. The space industry is truly massive now. As @prodromos has indicated, numerous agencies & companies are involved. NASA is just one cog in a large wheel now. In the words of a certain recently elected president’s campaign, it’s too big to rig!

 

[Strong in Him]

You haven't but NASA has.

NASA didn't place anything anywhere.
God created the earth, the moon, the stars etc. before he created mankind - and NASA only came along thousands of years later.

Everything that we see around us was created by God through Jesus.

 

[Apple Sky]

That’s pointing to where the earth is believed to be, which is part of God’s creation. It does not indicate that God’s creation is in a galaxy, but that it is all God’s creation, everything is His creation.

The earth and the heavens are God's creation & space does not exist as we think it does.

 

[Phil G]

The earth and the heavens are God's creation & space does not exist as we think it does.

You are just making statements again. Space is something that exists. It may not be exactly as “we” think it is, but it is something which has been experienced by human beings, including men & women who are not, and never were, part of NASA.

Also the fact that satellites exist & work according to a rotating globe earth, as they are designed to do, is clear evidence that you are wrong.