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There are virtually no pagan beliefs in the European churches. You just use wrong words, because you (wrongly) think that experiments and scientific discoveries are pagan beliefs. Which makes no sense, of course.
I would imagine he’s probably referring to something like the old argument about Sunday worship being about worshipping the sun god which is ridiculous because every day of the week was named after a pagan god so no matter what day the church chose they would still make that ridiculous argument. Or perhaps it’s a reference to Easter because many people associate the bunny rabbit with pagan theology as a sign of fertility or maybe it’s because of Christmas and the whole pagan tradition of decorating a Christmas tree or the old argument about Santa Clause and his name being close to the spelling “satan” if you just change a few letters around even tho the word “Santa” actually means Saint and it’s a reference to a generous Catholic monk who gave generously to people in need. We both know there’s no truth to it, Christians don’t worship pagan gods it’s just more lies and conspiracy theories. Exactly what we would expect coming from this crowd.
 
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Have you seen the date on your Ist black & white picture of the earth
LOL'z ...............The second one isn't much better either
 
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How did they equip my telescope with CGI? Amazing technology.
Yeah I mean they even manage to do it with telescopes that don’t require any sort of electricity. Just like apparently our speedometers and odometers on our vehicles have somehow always been affected by our distance from the North Pole in order to compensate for the difference in distance so that no one realizes that the southern continents are actually 1/4th of the size we have on our maps. I’m really curious how they accomplished that on say a 55 Belair before we had GPS?
 
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Have you seen the date on your Ist black & white picture of the earth
LOL'z ...............The second one isn't much better either
I didn’t post that picture. I wouldn’t waste my time with that.
 
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The Hebrew word Yovm is never once used in reference to an age or an era.
That's why it's symbolism.
Saying Genesis teaches that God created the earth in 144 hours - i.e 6 literal 24 hour periods - is reading into the text.
How did they measure a day before the sun and moon had been created on "day" 4?
 
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No the whole point of Genesis 1 and 2 was to provide the information that is provided in the chapters.
Genesis 1 is not a science textbook. It doesn't provide much information at all. HOW did God create something from nothing? How did he make trees - as seeds, saplings or fully grown? All God said was "let the land produce vegetation".
What about the animals; all babies that grew up? Did he make frogspawn and wait for that to develop into frogs? Did he create eggs and wait for them to hatch? Did he create 1 self pollinating plant and then let it get on with it?
See? No information at all.
 
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No, they are not all CGI, you just do not like what they show, so you claim this without any proof - which is biblically being a false witness, if you care about the Bible beyond the flat earth nonsense.
I very briefly got into arguing with flat earthers when I first saw a flat earth Youtube video. To be honest, I honestly thought it was a "test" to see if they could get a significant number of people to believe something utterly preposterous. It turns out they could. And "they" have been using that knowledge to troll us on all sorts of issues ever since. Don't believe me? What is a woman?

But I stopped arguing the subject quite a while ago. I file it under the first quote in my sig.
 
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Your starting position is the literal reading of the mythological literature of the bronze age. You expect it to be an accurate record of how our universe works.

While the starting position of scientists is the effort to understand the world around us as it is.

You get into a conflict, which is not surprising, because the bronze age mythology is not very compatible with the pragmatic reality of the universe. And it does not have to be, because it serves a different purpose - its not a literal history, its a story. It does not need to be "proven wrong", like a Shakespeare play does not need to be proven wrong.
 
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Fake photos not as accurate as a drawing or story about a story or drawing...
 
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I didn’t post that picture. I wouldn’t waste my time with that.

My apologies, my post was aimed @trophy33 & not your good self .

I just wondered does trophy realize the date on his first black & white picture of earth he posted Lol'z
 
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Your starting position is the literal reading of the mythological literature of the bronze age. You expect it to be an accurate record of how our universe works.
My position is a biblical position. Can you say the same?
 
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My apologies, my post was aimed @trophy33 & not your good self .

I just wondered does trophy realize the date on his first black & white picture of earth he posted Lol'z
Sure I realize the date, thats why I posted it. I selected one old one (before any CGI) and one modern one, from a French astronaut who was on the ISS.

Do you have anything intelligent to say about them?
 
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Ok I just demonstrated how my position is plausible. If you disagree then I would expect you should have an argument to present to show where it is in error. Is there something specific in my argument about the dating methods that you would like to address?
 
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My position is a biblical position. Can you say the same?
What does that even mean? Bible contains mythology, poetry, symbolism, songs and many other things.

Our position can be either right or wrong. For example using mythology as science or poetry as literal theology is a wrong position, no matter its taken from the Bible.
 
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Is there something specific in my argument about the dating methods that you would like to address?
No, because I lack your motivation - I do not think the genre of Genesis has anything to do with such things. Thats why I have no motivation to attack (or defend) the mainstream scientific theories. I will gladly leave it to scientific debates.
 
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Wrong - But don't worry, I forgive you.
 
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Where did Genesis come from? Did it come from the imagination of men, or did it come to man from God?
 
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You are laughing just because of your ignorance, which is rather shameful.

For example, this one is from 1960:



If you want something more modern and colorful, this one is from the ISS, sourced from a French astronaut Thomas Pesquet.



You do realize the date on your first black & white photo
The second one isn't that clever either.
 
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