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Do you believe Jesus was a literal flesh seed from Eve. If so, why do you not believe satan will not have a literal flesh seed

I believe that Cain is the son of Satan.

Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”
 
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Those verse are addressing father and not seed. A believer has God as their Father, But God did not actually father the believer like Jesus was the actual seed of God, who was birthed through Mary. So in keeping with the context in Genesis satan will have an actual seed.
 
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Not according to Scripture, he's not. Genesis 4:1.

Genesis 4:1 in the original Hebrew actually states that Eve though she had given birth to Jehovah.

וְהָאָדָם, יָדַע אֶת-חַוָּה אִשְׁתּוֹ; וַתַּהַר, וַתֵּלֶד
אֶת-קַיִן, וַתֹּאמֶר, קָנִיתִי אִישׁ אֶת-יְהוָה.

The original Hebrew states.
And the man knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man:Jehovah.”

Eve would not have stated this in Genesis 4:1, if she had not understood Genesis 3:15 as a promise of a Messiah God
 
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I agree - but a sphere does not have 4 corners, as Revelation says. So those who take every word of the Bible literally, need to address that.
So far, no one has.

They interpret scripture to suit their beliefs...
 
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I doubt that Eve believed she had given birth to God!
They called him Cain, which apparently sounds like the Hebrew for "brought forth". Eve must surely have known that God created the world and created her and Adam - why would she believe that she had been able to give birth to God?
 
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Uh.....no. Good grief. She did not think that. Original Hebrew is "I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD." or “I have gained a male child with the help of Hashem.” ("Hashem" used here because they think "Yahweh" isn't to be spoken)



In addition, the Hebrew you put in your post translates to
"And the man knew Eve his wife; And conceive, and give birth
Cain, and she said, I brought a man from Jehovah."

No wonder you think the earth is flat. You see things the way you want to see things.......not the way the are in reality.
 
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In Genesis 4:1 in the American Standard Version (ASV) the words in Genesis 4:1 "with the help of the Jehovah" . But phrase the help of, is in Italics in the American Standard Version. Showing that these words are not found in the original Hebrew text.

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And the man knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man with the help of Jehovah.

The Hebrew construction for Jehovah is the same as the previous phrase : bore Cain

Here again is the use of the direct object (man) followed by God's four letter name YHVH

The English translation is not based on the Hebrew. It is based on the Septuagint which reads "dia ton Theou" meaning, through God.
The latin Vulgate follows reading Per Deum meaning through God
 
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I agree, the Antichrist will be of the bloodline of Cain.
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No actually i believe the antichrist will actually be the seed of satan, the antichrist will be another nephilim.
 
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Your interpretation is certainly consistent with how you determine that the earth is flat. You will no doubt take that as a compliment.
 
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I don't know what the Hebrew says but there is nothing to say that Eve believed she had given birth to Yahweh.
Adam and Eve slept together, she became pregnant with a boy and they called him Cain. It was God, Yahweh, who told her that she would give birth to children.
 
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Wasn't the Nephilim the Giants ?
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Nephilim in Hebrew is fallen ones, where giants came into the picture was from the Septuagint. Which translates the Hebrew word nephilim by the Greek word gigentes.
 
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Your interpretation is certainly consistent with how you determine that the earth is flat. You will no doubt take that as a compliment.
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Well it is not tied to one belief system, i am free to seek out any information, i feel is accurate Biblical teaching.
 
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