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In all honesty, the bible never mentions anything about it being a sphere, spinning, and moving through space.It is more flat than round.
Actually, I was surprised to find just how fast the earth does curve. It's not as slow as you think. It is actually measureable... 8 inches in a mile.the imperfections of a table surface or board I don't think are greater than the curve of the earth. At the very least they should be considered equal because if you made a table that spans the length of the earth it would follow the same curve of the earth and would not be greater or lesser.
From a globe reality.. yes... the earth should be like all the other planets... after all, they are all floating in space and created the same way.No other planet or moon that we know of are flat circles so it doesn't make much sense that the Earth is one plus there is really zero benefit or motivation for a global conspiracy to hide flatness of the planet. It doesn't benefit anyone or anything to lie about it if it was flat plus there are so many that would have to keep the secret and tell the lie. I think this is rooted in misunderstanding some scriptures, and the natural distrust of governments that do tend to lie and hide things from people....but the Earth a flat circle? I don't buy that one and I am the type that isn't sure we ever made it to the moon due to so many errors and obvious fakery in the various footages given by NASA.
Good question....What else should produce the eclipse of the moon if not Earth?
And here I thought you would hold some noble discourse but...it seems you proved yourself to be a fool as well.
According to your logic one error in a person makes everything they said or did before that one error false: this is a logical fallacy. To put the error of Job's friends in context, they were wrong about the reason why Job was being plagued and lost his family and possessions: this is what God reprimanded them on. But based on your reasoning anyone who quotes one of Job's three friends is a fool...guess that makes every commentator on the story of Job a fool!
And if we take your reasoning to its logical conclusion we should also not quote any of the words of king Solomon nor of his father king David because of the sins they committed!
Let's expose more of your ignorance:
Your own words prove you to be a fool because God did not rebuke them for simply being inaccurate: He rebuked them for being inaccurate about His nature, not about the nature of any of His creations.
In regards to your commentary above it is clear that you have a bias and it shows in your reasoning. You took every passage you could find which would point to a description of a flat two dimensional plane and simply dismissed it as metaphor: this is a huge error. According to you and others who think like you: all visions are metaphors and figures of speech therefore every word in a vision is a metaphor or figure of speech which do not describe real things.
That being said you would not tell someone that a circle has corners nor that a square is round metaphorically or figuratively.
Your strawman argument of the broadcasting stations and Ida Cohen is irrelevant as I did not state that everyone who uses the phrase "corners of the earth" or "ends of the earth" believes the earth is flat. My main argument is that because the Bible uses those phrases in the passages I cited are why I believe the earth is flat: for squares and circles are not cubes and spheres. The latter are three dimensional solid shapes; the former are two dimensional plane shapes.
assuming your 8 inches per mile is correct it would be 80 inches for 10 miles which is 6.6666 feet (not 66.6666 feet)Actually, I was surprised to find just how fast the earth does curve. It's not as slow as you think. It is actually measureable... 8 inches in a mile.
This might not seem like much, at first. But, 8 inches in the first mile is 16 in the second... So the formula that is accepted for the curve is 8 inches per mile squared.
So, a lake that is 10 miles long will curve 66.6666 feet in that 10 miles... That is, or should be measurable and visible to observe.
If you mean a full eclipse, Ido not know, I have never seen that.Good question....
How does the shadow of the earth, cross the moon, if the sun is fully risen.... That is not a possibility.
I don’t think flat earthers exist. They are just punking people because they have nothing better to do with their lives. Or they are leftists pretending to be Christians who believe in a flat earth so they can use the fake narrative to blaspheme for political advantages.My apologies, I have no intention to insult anyone. If someone points out my ignorance, and I am ignorant about many things, I pray and ask God to guide me. I do not argue with a fellow Christian.
Of course we all have different views, but we should never feel offended by anyone who expresses different views to our own. My view is that a belief in a flat earth is nonsense, but I do not think that flat earthers are nonsensical, they are human beings like myself.
Only subjectively, not objectively.Right or wrong, everyone has a right to their opinion.
Where do you get that information that most people in the world use to believe in a flat earth?I don't mind people who believe in it, I mean most people in the world in the past were such. It doesn't change the message of the bible.
Depends on the reason they are professing a belief in it. The why.I guess I don't get it. I don't know why it matters if they do or don't. So you guys have my approvalNow don't mess it up okay?
No. It’s not. Get a life.Well I cannot tell you the true nature of the earth as I have never seen it from the outside looking in. And sadly the only pictures we supposedly have of earth are all computer graphic images...that in itself will make one wonder why we don't have a real picture if the earth is truly the way we are told it is.
From a biblical standpoint I can say that the very first mention of the earth is in Genesis 1:1 and the second mention is Genesis 1:9-13 and neither mention the shape of the earth at all; Job 22:14 states that the sky is circular; Job 26:10 and Proverbs 8:27 state that the waters are circular; Isaiah 40:22 states that God sits above the circle of the earth; and, Revelation 7:1 & 20:8 state that the earth has four corners. From this we may conclude that the heavens and the seas are circular while the earth is square. I say this because while a circle and a sphere are circular and round: a circle is a two dimensional plane figure while a sphere is a three dimensional solid figure. And in the case of a square it always has four corners whereas a cube has eight corners. The circle and square are also the only two dimensional objects which are 360 Degrees by nature.
Unless I missed any passages of scripture giving the shape of the heavens, the earth, and the seas or the ones I have cited are incorrect: the Bible is clearly showing us our earth is flat.
Influenced not controlled. People still have a choice when it comes to actions. That is the way the invisible kingdom of God grows in the earth too. Influence. People have a choice. They may not subjectively know all the choices available to them. Nevertheless. They are still choosing.The world is bounded and handicapped by logic, which is the reason it is always swindled.
Flat earth is a misnomer, and a psychological operation on all parties, but the globe earth is the logical conclusion of a previously swindled population as well.
One thread I participated in on here was completely erased with no explanation after I provided mathematical proof of a manifold terra firma. No one was arguing more than a regular thread, and the opponents actually had decent conversation of learning and respect for the other parties. I have seen much worse on the first page of this thread alone.
The impulse to reject those who even erroneously support a "flat earth" is an exploitation of logical alignments of humans. That is why it is popular again.
As long as humans continue to let other humans lead their thinking, they will be slaves in the mind. Logic is subjectivity; humans LIE even to their entire civilian population - For the purposes of keeping the truth hidden.
It also seems like people (i.e. Christians) don't actually believe this world is controlled by PRINCIPALITIES, ARCHONS AND POWRRS (real spiritual entities), or, the Church does not teach this. If people knew, they would forsake worldly wisdom of things as it is at best foolishness.
Its 8 inches per mile "Squared" to account for the "Curve" of the earth... not a straight slope.assuming your 8 inches per mile is correct it would be 80 inches for 10 miles which is 6.6666 feet (not 66.6666 feet)
Most eclipses, lunar, are perfectly explained by the heliocentric model...If you mean a full eclipse, Ido not know, I have never seen that.
If you mean just partly shadowed moon, its very natural to be that way, because moon is a round ball, so its natural that the side that is not towards sun will be without light.
What I saw can be explained only by the standard heliocentric model.
Yes. But not with the flat earth model.Most eclipses, lunar, are perfectly explained by the heliocentric model...
Influenced not controlled. People still have a choice when it comes to actions. That is the way the invisible kingdom of God grows in the earth too. Influence. People have a choice. They may not subjectively know all the choices available to them. Nevertheless. They are still choosing.
Well, in my opinion, if even one eclipse takes place while the sun is risen and thus impossible to cast a shadow of the earth, onto the moon... then there must be another explanation...This means that every time... there is an eclipse, the cause is not the earth's shadow.... it's something else..Yes. But not with the flat earth model.
(Well, there actually is not any Flat earth model, because it simply is not possible to construct).
I think you are taking it from the wrong end. You start with an exception to explain daily occurance.Well, in my opinion, if even one eclipse takes place while the sun is risen and thus impossible to cast a shadow of the earth, onto the moon... then there must be another explanation...This means that every time... there is an eclipse, the cause is not the earth's shadow.... it's something else..
IF not.. then there would never be a time when the impossible takes place.. the sun would always have to be in position to cast it's shadow.
Anytime there is one example of the situation being impossible... it destroys the entire concept.
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