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This is the one and only place that people can apply the "coriolis" effect and have anything to show for it.. that would be explainable... However, as was pointed out.. this is not always the case with storms. See post 410.The big point with the Coriolis Effect is that storms rotate in opposite directions in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
These stars. the many that make up the historical constellations, are all at varying distances, in light years, from our vantage point.No ... they all moved ... as they are relatively positioned ... with respect to Polaris, as well as to one another.
IOW ...the entire star map changed position ...
This is common when you are thinking as a globe view... Yes, if we were formed by the big bang, and all planets are spheres... why, if we were also created in the big bang... would we not be a sphere.We know the planets are spheres so why would the earth be the odd one out and be flat as a pancake?
Don't know how I got # 432 Try 399?I cannot find post 432.
I started this thread because I am old, confused, but entitled to my opinion. I respect the opinion of flat earthers but they are wrong. Apologies for my error when typing the title.
Thank you for your prayers, I too pray for everyone, even the very wicked ones. It was never my intention to challenge anyone. I did not know that flat earthers were so sensitive. I have learnt a lot about the flat earth idea in this thread, but also the counter-arguments. I believe God is guiding me to the truth here as my opinion is being fortified. Many thanks to all, those for and those against a flat earth. I will try to study the Scriptures quoted with an open heart, even if my mind is closed. As I have already said, we must all humble ourselves before God.
It's not about FE'er being "sensitive". They have a view and you challenged it with your title. Calling them sensitive... is like a dig.. a put down...I cannot find post 432.
I started this thread because I am old, confused, but entitled to my opinion. I respect the opinion of flat earthers but they are wrong. Apologies for my error when typing the title.
Thank you for your prayers, I too pray for everyone, even the very wicked ones. It was never my intention to challenge anyone. I did not know that flat earthers were so sensitive.
God bless.I have learnt a lot about the flat earth idea in this thread, but also the counter-arguments. I believe God is guiding me to the truth here as my opinion is being fortified. Many thanks to all, those for and those against a flat earth. I will try to study the Scriptures quoted with an open heart, even if my mind is closed. As I have already said, we must all humble ourselves before God.
In response to your "We know the planets are spheres so why would the earth be the odd one out and be flat as a pancake?
From post 410 ... "3. Regarding the coriolis effect, the fact is not all storms consistently rotate clockwise in the N. Hemisphere and counter-clockwise in the S. Hemisphere."This is the one and only place that people can apply the "coriolis" effect and have anything to show for it.. that would be explainable... However, as was pointed out.. this is not always the case with storms. See post 410.
These stars. the many that make up the historical constellations, are all at varying distances, in light years, from our vantage point.
They may be relatively positioned for viewing today.. but thousands of years ago, they would of had to be different.. Just driving down the road.. two trees at varying distances will change relative positions and angles from the viewer.
Seriously? The amount of time that has gone by and the distance that we have traveled in those years.... the constellations would not have even existed then... or would not exist now.They were in different positions, ... though you weren't alive to see them, ... and you might not have been able to tell the difference. These are the things which scientists study ...
Or ... maybe your sense of timing ... is a wee bit off ...Seriously? The amount of time that has gone by and the distance that we have traveled in those years.... the constellations would not have even existed then... or would not exist now.
This is common when you are thinking as a globe view... Yes, if we were formed by the big bang, and all planets are spheres... why, if we were also created in the big bang... would we not be a sphere.
However, the FE does not hold to that method of creation. God made the earth and then put the stars and sun and moon into the firmament..
Thus, there is no connection of the shapes.
However, it's tough to view things in a different manner than that that you have been taught your entire life to be true.
My argument is that the disciples witnessed it while God dictated the creation to Moses...
They probably do not believe there are other planets and moon and sun are just lights, not real objects.We know the planets are spheres so why would the earth be the odd one out and be flat as a pancake?
And probably neither did you, because you do not have any answer that works, regarding the flat earth.or..... "how do the seasons and days work".... It's annoying that people don't research the view of the topic that they are going to dispute.
Bible is not dictated.
And this short sentence changes the perspective, right? Now, the Earth can be globe.
We don't believe that the planets are spheres ... because we believe in the Big Bang.This is common when you are thinking as a globe view... Yes, if we were formed by the big bang, and all planets are spheres... why, if we were also created in the big bang... would we not be a sphere.
However, the FE does not hold to that method of creation. God made the earth and then put the stars and sun and moon into the firmament..
Thus, there is no connection of the shapes.
However, it's tough to view things in a different manner than that that you have been taught your entire life to be true.
Now that everyday people have optics that can take pictures of the planets, we are seeing some surprising images that would suggest that the "paintings" that NASA has been feeding us for the last half century, may not be as real as we have been lead to believe.They probably do not believe there are other planets and moon and sun are just lights, not real objects.
Hubble.... really?We don't believe that the planets are spheres ... because we believe in the Big Bang.
We believe that the planets are spheres ... because we can SEE them through telescopes. We SEE them as SPHERICAL ... and ROTATING.
Like this image of Jupiter ... from the Hubble telescope ...
Note that you can see this same shape and rotation ... from a telescope in your backyard ...
Of course ... all photos rely upon the telescopic/photographic capability and skill of the photographer.Now that everyday people have optics that can take pictures of the planets, we are seeing some surprising images that would suggest that the "paintings" that NASA has been feeding us for the last half century, may not be as real as we have been lead to believe.
Check these actual pictures out:
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