Five Misconceptions About Calvinism

[EmSw]

Well I don't think that is exactly what they are saying, but that is the logical implication of what they have been arguing. I don't accept any part of the predestination doctrine so I suppose I am considered one of the non-elect. Yet how can I love God so, feel so loved, and be so certain of eternal life if I am one of the hopelessly depraved and was judged so before the Earth was made?

It is a puzzlement.

It's exactly what they are saying. I can't tell you how many times I've been told I need to get saved and how many times I've been called a heretic by these folks. If you don't believe them, they will eventually treat you as a reprobate.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

What is just about creating souls who are given absolutely no chance to be saved?

First, you have no biblical concept of sin. You imagine men desiring God, but they just can't get to Him. There is no such man.

Also, do you imagine everyone has heard the gospel and lives in the Bible Belt? Why did God create people who live in mountain villages in China? What of the other multiple millions who have lived and died without ever hearing the name of Jesus?

You have to address the same issue.

I have a biblical answer. Do you?

 

[-V-]

Also, do you imagine everyone has heard the gospel and lives in the Bible Belt? Why did God create people who live in mountain villages in China? What of the other multiple millions who have lived and died without ever hearing the name of Jesus?

You have to address the same issue.

I have a biblical answer. Do you?

It's been addressed numerous times already, we do have a Biblical answer: not hearing the Gospel doesn't equate to automatic damnation.

 

[EmSw]

First, you have no biblical concept of sin. You imagine men desiring God, but they just can't get to Him. There is no such man.

Also, do you imagine everyone has heard the gospel and lives in the Bible Belt? Why did God create people who live in mountain villages in China? What of the other multiple millions who have lived and died without ever hearing the name of Jesus?

You have to address the same issue.

I have a biblical answer. Do you?

Is your biblical answer to send them to hell?

 

[Foxfyre]

Your emotional opinion of what's cruel and what's fair is irrelevant. The God you love is not the God of the Bible

I believe He is.

 

[Foxfyre]

Where?

Really try to keep up okay? Just review the post of yours I quoted and commented on and then you'll know.

 

[Foxfyre]

What specifically is cruel about God's judgement of sin?

Nothing from my point of view. But to create a creature of sin just so he/she can live a miserable life on Earth and never anticipate anything better is very cruel in my opinion.

 

[Foxfyre]

It's exactly what they are saying. I can't tell you how many times I've been told I need to get saved and how many times I've been called a heretic by these folks. If you don't believe them, they will eventually treat you as a reprobate.

Oh well, that is already happening.

 

[Foxfyre]

First, you have no biblical concept of sin. You imagine men desiring God, but they just can't get to Him. There is no such man.

Also, do you imagine everyone has heard the gospel and lives in the Bible Belt? Why did God create people who live in mountain villages in China? What of the other multiple millions who have lived and died without ever hearing the name of Jesus?

You have to address the same issue.

I have a biblical answer. Do you?

I believe God makes provisions for those who have no chance to hear the Gospel. But I also believe that we should do what we can reasonably do to give people opportunity to hear the Gospel. And again, you have no idea of what concepts I hold, what I know, what I think, what I believe other than what I have shown you here. Insulting me doesn't win you any points in the debate.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Nothing from my point of view. But to create a creature of sin just so he/she can live a miserable life on Earth and never anticipate anything better is very cruel in my opinion.

God created creatures of sin? How have you arrived at this idea?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Really try to keep up okay? Just review the post of yours I quoted and commented on and then you'll know.

John 6: nothing about seeds or soil. OK? Explain what in the world you are talking about, please.

 

[Foxfyre]

God created creatures of sin? How have you arrived at this idea?

I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that somebody other than God created all this?

 

[Foxfyre]

John 6: nothing about seeds or soil. OK? Explain what in the world you are talking about, please.

I did. I think you weren't listening.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that somebody other than God created all this?

Before I spend anymore of m time of this, would you mind telling me what denomination you in? Thanks.

 

[EmSw]

God created creatures of sin? How have you arrived at this idea?

Who created these creatures of sin (according to your view), if God didn't? Do we have another creator in this universe?

 

[EmSw]

Before I spend anymore of m time of this, would you mind telling me what denomination you in? Thanks.

Non sequitur, please stay on the topic of the OP. Hasn't Hammster warned you of this already?

 

[Foxfyre]

Before I spend anymore of m time of this, would you mind telling me what denomination you in? Thanks.

At this time I am a denomination of one. I have traveled with, worked with, worshiped with most mainline denominations though. Including teaching in one that is Calvinistic, though I was not asked to teach Calvinist doctrine which I would not have been able to do with a clear conscience.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

At this time I am a denomination of one. I have traveled with, worked with, worshiped with most mainline denominations though.

Thanks for letting me know. I only wish I had know sooner, but I do appreciate your telling me when I asked.

 

[sdowney717]

Well I don't think that is exactly what they are saying, but that is the logical implication of what they have been arguing. I don't accept any part of the predestination doctrine so I suppose I am considered one of the non-elect. Yet how can I love God so, feel so loved by God, and be so certain of eternal life if I am one of the hopelessly depraved and was judged so before the Earth was made?

It is a puzzlement.

Well there you have it, God says none seek Him, and you say as far as it is properly interpreted...
God says those He foreknew He predestined, and you don't believe any of it.
Maybe the words are just poetry to you?

 

[EmSw]

Well there you have it, God says none seek Him, and you say as far as it is properly interpreted...
God says those He foreknew He predestined, and you don't believe any of it.
Maybe the words are just poetry to you?

To show you how wrong you are, I did seek God. And I've been told I'm not saved by your own.

I will ask again, who hasn't been foreknown to God? Is there some people did not foreknow?