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[bhsmte]

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That's cool, the book of Genesis which speaks directly to the question of Creation, cannot be used as evidence because evolutionists disagree with it and have deemed it to be myth.

Are other holy books evidence of truth?

 

[Subduction Zone]

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I already own a Bible, I don't need another one.
If there is some specific Chapter and verse you are referring to, then post it.

I'm not doing your footwork.

Please, that site has the chapter and verse. But I have yet to meet a literalist that can be honest about the flaws in the Bible to date.

But let's go over the nativity of Jesus. Luke has him born in roughly the year 6 CE, while Matthew has him born in the year 4 BCE at the latest. You do remember that story, don't you?

 

[Nithavela]

It will be discovered soon. I've already read about how the "Scoffers" of the last days will be "willingly ignorant" that Adam's world, where Humanity began, was totally destroyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:3-7 This means the the False ToE is incomplete, untrue and made up in order to eliminate God from His own Creation. Discovering Adam's firmament will expose the Lies of Evolism. Amen?

As I said, we can continue this conversation after you have more to show than vague alegations about the future.

 

[JIMINZ]

Please, that site has the chapter and verse. But I have yet to meet a literalist that can be honest about the flaws in the Bible to date.

But let's go over the nativity of Jesus. Luke has him born in roughly the year 6 CE, while Matthew has him born in the year 4 BCE at the latest. You do remember that story, don't you?

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You have said this two times, I asked you for Chapter and verse, and what do you do, you give me every Chapter and verse.

You say you have the proof, then produce it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

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You have said this two times, I asked you for Chapter and verse, and what do you do, you give me every Chapter and verse.

You say you have the proof, then produce it.

If you were that ignorant about the Bible you should have told me:

Matthew 2.

You can read how Herod was alive at the time of Jesus's birth. Herod died in the year 4 BCE. That puts Jesus's birth in the year 4 BCE at the latest.

Luke 2 2

Puts the time of Jesus's birth in the year 6 CE. That was the year that Quirinius had his first census.

There is a ten year span between those two years.

 

[JIMINZ]

Are other holy books evidence of truth?

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The conversation is about evolution vs. Creation what other Holy Books would you recommend to further the discussion?

 

[JIMINZ]

If you were that ignorant about the Bible you should have told me:

Matthew 2.

You can read how Herod was alive at the time of Jesus's birth. Herod died in the year 4 BCE. That puts Jesus's birth in the year 4 BCE at the latest.

Luke 2 2

Puts the time of Jesus's birth in the year 6 CE. That was the year that Quirinius had his first census.

There is a ten year span between those two years.

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No it's just when someone says they have such and such they should be able to produce it themselves as verification of their statement, otherwise it is just an opinion.

Whenever I make reference to something in the Bible I post the verse I am referencing, it's that simple.

Question.

How is it possible, Jesus being born 4 years before he was born?
Being born in the year 4 BC as you say.

 

[Subduction Zone]

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No it's just when someone says they have such and such they should be able to produce it themselves as verification of their statement, otherwise it is just an opinion.

Whenever I make reference to something in the Bible I post the verse I am referencing, it's that simple.

Question.

How is it possible, Jesus being born 4 years before he was born?
Being born in the year 4 BC as you say.

I did not use the outdated dating terminology of BC and AD. That was based upon a mistaken year for the birth of Jesus. I used Common Era and Before Common Era.


But thanks for failing to refute an obvious contradiction in the Bible. Playing games like you did is the same as you admitting that you were wrong.

 

[bhsmte]

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The conversation is about evolution vs. Creation what other Holy Books would you recommend to further the diussion?

It was a simple question. If you dont want to answer, thats cool.

 

[lesliedellow]

Today's Humans are the nĕphiyl. We are the "mighty" ones, as evidenced by the very FIRST nĕphiyl to be produced by Noah's grandson Cush and a prehistoric woman, after the Ark arrived on planet Earth.

More do it yourself exegesis. I will stick with the scholars who can read Hebrew, if you don't mind.

 

[JIMINZ]

It was a simple question. If you dont want to answer, thats cool.

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I'm sorry, I thought you might have some particular book in mind like the Qu'ran.

But if you meant some other books of the Bible, they are all an evidence of Truth.

But I don't know which one-s would speak to the issue of Creation better than Genesis,..... do you?

If you don't have any suggestions, then I don't know what your point might have been.

 

[Subduction Zone]

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I'm sorry, I thought you might have some particular book in mind like the Qu'ran.

But if you meant some other books of the Bible, they are all an evidence of Truth.

But I don't know which one-s would speak to the issue of Creation better than Genesis,..... do you?

If you don't have any suggestions, then I don't know what your point might have been.

Why do you think that the Bible has any validity?

 

[JIMINZ]

I did not use the outdated dating terminology of BC and AD. That was based upon a mistaken year for the birth of Jesus. I used Common Era and Before Common Era.


But thanks for failing to refute an obvious contradiction in the Bible. Playing games like you did is the same as you admitting that you were wrong.

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I really don't care what you might have used, they both mean the same thing.

The B.C. and A.D. being outdated is an incorrect understanding, it only came about because people like you, who were offended by the B.C. - A.D. designation.
Or as though there was some other event in the history of the world, and man which would have called for the change in the designation of the dating.

Hadn't you noticed, the Jews never changed their Calendar?

 

[JIMINZ]

Why do you think that the Bible has any validity?

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I think that is beyond your scope of understanding.

 

[Subduction Zone]

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I really don't care what you might have used, they both mean the same thing.

The B.C. and A.D. being outdated is an incorrect understanding, it only came about because people like you, who were offended by the B.C. - A.D. designation.
Or as though there was some other event in the history of the world, and man which would have called for the change in the designation of the dating.

Hadn't you noticed, the Jews never changed their Calendar?

You still admitted that you were wrong by playing games.

And no, it has nothing to do with being offended. And you just tipped your hand. You seem to be an anti-Semite as well.

 

[Subduction Zone]

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I think that is beyond your scope of understanding.

Wrong again. I am willing to be that I understand the Bible better than you do. Your faith gets in the way of being able to understand it.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

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Just what constitutes a reasonable account?

In this case, an account that is consistent with the facts (the observed data) and in accord with the consensus of experts in the field.

 

[JIMINZ]

You still admitted that you were wrong by playing games.

And no, it has nothing to do with being offended. And you just tipped your hand. You seem to be an anti-Semite as well.

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I'm sure you could come up with a bunch of other names to call me.
Have at it.

Haven't tipped a thing, that only happens when you are playing games like you are.

 

[JIMINZ]

Wrong again. I am willing to be that I understand the Bible better than you do. Your faith gets in the way of being able to understand it.

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You sound like a true X Catholic.

 

[JIMINZ]

You still admitted that you were wrong by playing games.

And no, it has nothing to do with being offended. And you just tipped your hand. You seem to be an anti-Semite as well.

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