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[pat34lee]

More assumptions. There is nothing about "cultivated crops" vs "uncultivated crops" in the text but rather it simply states that there was no man to till the soil which may also have to do with what is stated later after Adam fell and the 'adamah was cursed:

You continually bypass the phrase 'of the field' as if it didn't make a neat distinction between wild and cultivated plants. While it is always good to double or triple check what we have been taught, you cannot just create new theology from a few verses that does not line up with other scriptures. Where are the other scripture witnesses that prove your interpretation to the exclusion of the way it is normally read?

 

[daq]

You continually bypass the phrase 'of the field' as if it didn't make a neat distinction between wild and cultivated plants. While it is always good to double or triple check what we have been taught, you cannot just create new theology from a few verses that does not line up with other scriptures. Where are the other scripture witnesses that prove your interpretation to the exclusion of the way it is normally read?

It does not work that way in reality. If you are going to insist that ALL HERBS OF THE FIELD only means your "chosen" kinds of herbs, but does not mean the kind you do not wish for it to mean because your argument might fall apart, then it is you who first needs to make your case and prove why what you say is true before foisting your thoughts upon others like ultimatums. If you can prove the why in all things you say then you will arrive at your destination, but it will not be where you think you are headed now, and you will be glad.

 

[pat34lee]

It does not work that way in reality. If you are going to insist that ALL HERBS OF THE FIELD only means your "chosen" kinds of herbs, but does not mean the kind you do not wish for it to mean because your argument might fall apart, then it is you who first needs to make your case and prove why what you say is true before foisting your thoughts upon others like ultimatums. If you can prove the why in all things you say then you will arrive at your destination, but it will not be where you think you are headed now, and you will be glad.

Only one of us is correct in this matter. As I know it is me by the evidence, I will be glad to show you the facts. Remember Genesis 2:5, plants of the field and herbs of the field. These were planted on day 3, but would not grow without a man to till the soil.

Genesis 2:15, 16 says that Adam was put into the garden where he just had to put out a hand and pick any fruit to eat. No other plants or herbs were there.

Part of Adam's punishment in 3:18 was to eat the herbs of the field, for which he would have to struggle and till the soil, which would also grow inedible thorns and thistles. This is a second reference to specific herbs of the field, which man would eat, and which require tilling the soil to produce.

 

[daq]

Only one of us is correct in this matter. As I know it is me by the evidence, I will be glad to show you the facts. Remember Genesis 2:5, plants of the field and herbs of the field. These were planted on day 3, but would not grow without a man to till the soil.

Genesis 2:15, 16 says that Adam was put into the garden where he just had to put out a hand and pick any fruit to eat. No other plants or herbs were there.

Part of Adam's punishment in 3:18 was to eat the herbs of the field, for which he would have to struggle and till the soil, which would also grow inedible thorns and thistles. This is a second reference to specific herbs of the field, which man would eat, and which require tilling the soil to produce.

Perhaps the OJB translation will help?

Genesis 2:15-17 OJB Genesis 2 Orthodox Jewish Bible
15. And Hashem Elohim took the adam and put him in the Gan Eden la'avod (to till, to work) it and to be shomer over it.
16 And Hashem Elohim commanded the adam, saying, Of every etz of the gan thou mayest freely eat;
17 But of the Etz HaDa'as Tov v'Rah, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the yom that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Likewise the trees came forth in the THIRD DAY but this man Adam was created before that.

 

[pat34lee]

Perhaps the OJB translation will help?

Genesis 2:15-17 OJB Genesis 2 Orthodox Jewish Bible
15. And Hashem Elohim took the adam and put him in the Gan Eden la'avod (to till, to work) it and to be shomer over it.
16 And Hashem Elohim commanded the adam, saying, Of every etz of the gan thou mayest freely eat;
17 But of the Etz HaDa'as Tov v'Rah, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the yom that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Likewise the trees came forth in the THIRD DAY but this man Adam was created before that.

Again, the plants which do not just grow wild, but once created must be tended and tilled by man.

Wild trees had been grown on day 3, but a garden had not been made for Adam. As in most stories, the events in chapter two happen after one is over. You are taking what is two separate stories and combining similar parts but which are about different subjects.

Chapter one - Creation of everything in day-by-day order.
Chapter two - Eden created specifically for Adam

Another proof to why it has to be this way.

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
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What is the beginning? The story of creation in Genesis 1.

Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
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Now check out the first part of this article:
Tracking Bible Prophecy: Discovering Future World Events Through Scripture
(It is a church based site, so there are a few details wrong, but you can't have everything.)

 

[daq]

Again, the plants which do not just grow wild, but once created must be tended and tilled by man.

Wild trees had been grown on day 3, but a garden had not been made for Adam. As in most stories, the events in chapter two happen after one is over. You are taking what is two separate stories and combining similar parts but which are about different subjects.

Chapter one - Creation of everything in day-by-day order.
Chapter two - Eden created specifically for Adam

Another proof to why it has to be this way.

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
​

What is the beginning? The story of creation in Genesis 1.

Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
​

Now check out the first part of this article:
Tracking Bible Prophecy: Discovering Future World Events Through Scripture
(It is a church based site, so there are a few details wrong, but you can't have everything.)

There really is no sense in going any further since you are ignoring everything that has already been posted. You still have not dealt with the fact that Genesis 2:4 states "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day, (singular) that HaShem Elohim made the earth and the heavens." And in addition to this and many other points you still have not dealt with the fact that ruach-spirit is nowhere to be found in Genesis 2:7 when the first anthropos Adam was formed. Even the Sadducs could not overcome this dilemma, don't be a Sadducee, (beware the leaven of the Sadducees).

The second Adam is from heaven and is [re]created in the image of Elohim, (SPIRIT) and when this was done Elohim saw that it was very good, (for Moshe prophesied as I said).

 

[pat34lee]

There really is no sense in going any further since you are ignoring everything that has already been posted. You still have not dealt with the fact that Genesis 2:4 states "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day, (singular) that HaShem Elohim made the earth and the heavens." And in addition to this and many other points you still have not dealt with the fact that ruach-spirit is nowhere to be found in Genesis 2:7 when the first anthropos Adam was formed. Even the Sadducees could not overcome this dilemma, don't be a Sadducee, (beware the leaven of the Sadducees).

The second Adam is from heaven and is [re]created in the image of Elohim, (SPIRIT) and when this was done Elohim saw that it was very good, (for Moshe prophesied as I said).

Let's dispense with the first then. When Moses wrote Genesis, were there chapters and verses? No. It was just one book. We don't even know if the special breaks in newer scrolls were there in the ancient ones. Verse 2:4 was talking about EVERYTHING before it, not just the prior 3 verses or the upcoming verses.

And again, you are pleading special cases. Where is the support in other scriptures?

 

[daq]

Let's dispense with the first then. When Moses wrote Genesis, were there chapters and verses? No. It was just one book. We don't even know if the special breaks in newer scrolls were there in the ancient ones. Verse 2:4 was talking about EVERYTHING before it, not just the prior 3 verses or the upcoming verses.

And again, you are pleading special cases. Where is the support in other scriptures?

Who is pleading special cases when you start off by saying that my comments sound like the x-files and twilight zone? Yet whose version truly ends up matching what is written? Who then tried to explain that there was some sort of wheat, herbs, and food that did not grow in fields so as to escape the obvious conclusion? Was it me suggesting those things? When and where have you ever heard of wheat that does not grow in the field? But that is the only real conclusion to what you have suggested is it not? Was that in one of the twilight zone episodes I missed? That reasoning in itself sounds more like a non-existent special case concocted on the first flyby so as to keep ones paradigm intact:

Let's start where you diverge from what it says to what you think it says. There is a difference between the plants of Genesis 1:11

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
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and Genesis 2:5

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
​

2:5 is talking about cultivated crops. Only these require man to till the land and take care of them.

Genesis 2:4-17 OJB
4. These are the toldot of HaShomayim and of Ha'Aretz when they were created, in the Yom that Hashem Elohim made Eretz v'Shomayim,
5. And every plant of the sadeh was not yet in ha'aretz, and every herb of the sadeh had not yet yitzmach (sprung up, T.N. Moshiach is Tzemach [Zecharyah 3:8]); for Hashem Elohim had not caused it to rain upon ha'aretz, and there was not an adam (man) la'avod (to till, to work) haadamah (the ground).
6. But there went up a mist from ha'aretz, and watered the whole face of the adamah.
7. And Hashem Elohim formed the adam of the aphar min haadamah, and breathed into his nostrils the nishmat chayyim; and the adam became a nefesh chayyah.
8. And Hashem Elohim planted a gan (garden) eastward in Eden; and there He put the adam whom He had formed.
9. And out of the adamah made Hashem Elohim to spring up (T.N. see verse 5) kol etz (every tree) that is pleasing to the sight, and tov for food; the Etz HaChayyim (Tree of Life) also in the midst of the gan (garden), and the Etz HaDa'as Tov v'Rah (see 3:22, i.e., representing moral autonomy; contrast Exodus 9:20-21 where the Dvar Hashem is the guide of life, even for Gentiles).
10. And a nahar (river) flowed out of Eden to water the gan (garden); and from there it divided, and became four headwaters.
11. The shem of the first is Pishon; that is it which winds through the kol eretz Chavilah, where there is zahav;
12. And the zahav of that land is tov; there is [the gemstone] bedolach and the even (gemstone) hashoham [T.N.: this onyx gemstone is used in the construction of the Kohen Gadol's Bigdei HaKodesh] 13 And the shem of the second nahar is Gihon; the same is it that winds through kol eretz Cush.
14. And the shem of the third nahar is Chiddekel (Tigris [see Daniel 10:4]): that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth nahar is Euphrates.
15. And Hashem Elohim took the adam and put him in the Gan Eden la'avod (to till, to work) it and to be shomer over it.
16 And Hashem Elohim commanded the adam, saying, Of every etz of the gan thou mayest freely eat;
17 But of the Etz HaDa'as Tov v'Rah, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the yom that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Again the trees came forth in the THIRD DAY but this man Adam was created before that.

You continually bypass the phrase 'of the field' as if it didn't make a neat distinction between wild and cultivated plants. While it is always good to double or triple check what we have been taught, you cannot just create new theology from a few verses that does not line up with other scriptures. Where are the other scripture witnesses that prove your interpretation to the exclusion of the way it is normally read?

It is your teachers who created some "new theology" and you apparently ate all of it.

 

[pat34lee]

Who is pleading special cases when you start off by saying that my comments sound like the x-files and twilight zone? Yet whose version truly ends up matching what is written? Who then tried to explain that there was some sort of wheat, herbs, and food that did not grow in fields so as to escape the obvious conclusion? Was it me suggesting those things? When and where have you ever heard of wheat that does not grow in the field? But that is the only real conclusion to what you have suggested is it not? Was that in one of the twilight zone episodes I missed? That reasoning in itself sounds more like a non-existent special case concocted on the first flyby so as to keep ones paradigm intact:

Let's try starting with something easy. How can you say that 2:5 (also 3:18) is talking about the same plants as 1:11 when it clearly says that it is talking about cultivated plants? Only certain plants require men to till, plant and tend to them. Most grasses and herbs do very well without us.

 

[daq]

Let's try starting with something easy. How can you say that 2:5 (also 3:18) is talking about the same plants as 1:11 when it clearly says that it is talking about cultivated plants? Only certain plants require men to till, plant and tend to them. Most grasses and herbs do very well without us.

Sounds like it should be pretty easy huh?

1) ALL plants of the field were NOT YET in the earth when the first man Adam was formed.
2) There was NO plant of the field YET in the earth when the first man Adam was formed.
3) EVERY plant of the sadeh was NOT YET in ha'aretz when the first man Adam was formed.
4) ANY plant of the field was NOT YET in the earth when the first man Adam was formed.

Yep, seems pretty simple to me . . .

 

[yonah_mishael]

There really is no sense in going any further since you are ignoring everything that has already been posted. You still have not dealt with the fact that Genesis 2:4 states "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day, (singular) that HaShem Elohim made the earth and the heavens." And in addition to this and many other points you still have not dealt with the fact that ruach-spirit is nowhere to be found in Genesis 2:7 when the first anthropos Adam was formed. Even the Sadducs could not overcome this dilemma, don't be a Sadducee, (beware the leaven of the Sadducees).

The second Adam is from heaven and is [re]created in the image of Elohim, (SPIRIT) and when this was done Elohim saw that it was very good, (for Moshe prophesied as I said).

"In the day" is simply an idiom meaning "when."

 

[daq]

"In the day" is simply an idiom meaning "when."

In the regeneration it may be found that there were three hours of light and three hours of darkness because the light was divided from the darkness in the beginning, (again, did Elohim wait twelve hours before speaking again the second day?). The seventh hour of every day is a Shabbat, (Numbers 7, John 4) which is in addition but not in place of the weekly Shabbat. Likewise the sun was brought down at midday in the day of Golgotha, (fulfilling Amos 9:9-10) and there was darkness over all the earth from the sixth hour to the ninth hour. Thus "the night comes where no man can work" and thus no Testimony of Yeshua was recorded upon the stake during those three yamiym-hours of "nights", (as in Yonah in the belly of the whale). Perhaps that may also sound like the "twilight zone" as someone once said but the truth is stranger than fiction is it not? And the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days in a day, when HaShem bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound! Also there is no more night in the regeneration, (which is now if you will receive it).

 

[pat34lee]

Sounds like it should be pretty easy huh?

1) ALL plants of the field were NOT YET in the earth when the first man Adam was formed.
2) There was NO plant of the field YET in the earth when the first man Adam was formed.
3) EVERY plant of the sadeh was NOT YET in ha'aretz when the first man Adam was formed.
4) ANY plant of the field was NOT YET in the earth when the first man Adam was formed.

Yep, seems pretty simple to me . . .

That proves 2:5 and 3:18. Now how can you prove 1:11 or 1:27 is lying?

 

[daq]

That proves 2:5 and 3:18. Now how can you prove 1:11 or 1:27 is lying?

Where did I ever say 1:11 or 1:27 is lying and why would you invoke me to prove blasphemy?
Please read Deuteronomy 19:16-21, Matthew 15:18-19, and 1 John 3:11-15.

 

[pat34lee]

Where did I ever say 1:11 or 1:27 is lying and why would you invoke me to prove blasphemy?
Please read Deuteronomy 19:16-21, Matthew 15:18-19, and 1 John 3:11-15.

From an earlier post of yours:

Again the trees came forth in the THIRD DAY but this man Adam was created before that.

By your reckoning, 1:27 is wrong, as there is no man created in the day by day account before day 6. The only alternative is that you are wrong.

 

[daq]

From an earlier post of yours:

Again the trees came forth in the THIRD DAY but this man Adam was created before that.

By your reckoning, 1:27 is wrong, as there is no man created in the day by day account before day 6. The only alternative is that you are wrong.

And here is another earlier post with a critical point now highlighted in red:

Try ignoring the chronological sequence of Genesis 1&2 which most people tend to use when they think on these things.

You clearly saw that post because that is the one you used to mock by saying it sounded like the twilight zone or x-files. In addition who was it that stated there are no chapters or verses to supposedly help make his case? Yet that same one is the one who has been here insisting on reading the two texts as if they are completely separate from each other. I have no problem understanding the entire passage the way I do because of how I read the rest of holy writ including the four Gospel accounts. Call it meshing, grafting, overlapping, or whatever but it must absolutely be done with the four Gospel accounts if one will even begin to have a clue as to the whole picture. The reason you cannot possibly fathom what I say to be true is because you read everything as if it was in a chronological order and this I know comes from the dispensationist mindset that is so engrained in western thinking. For the same reason the same cannot understand the Gospel accounts, their true chronological order, and especially not the book of the Revelation of Yeshua. All of these things unfold like rolling thunder and as they roll out more is revealed from what was stated in the beginning.

In [the] re'shiyth bara'-created/cut down 'Elohiym ha-shamayim and ha'arets.
And ha'arets was desolate, and void-empty, and darkness was over the face of the abyss. And Ruwach 'Elohiym moved upon the face of ha-mayim.
And said 'Elohiym, Let there be light: and there was light.
And beheld 'Elohiym the light, that it was good: and divided 'Elohiym the light from the darkness.
And called 'Elohiym the light, Yom, and the darkness called he Laylah.
These are the generations of ha-shamayim and ha'arets when they were bara'-created/cut-down; in a Yom `asah-made YHWH 'Elohiym 'erets and shamayim.
And was `ereb, and was boqer; Yom 'Echad [Day One].
And said 'Elohiym, Let there be a raqiya` in the midst of ha-mayim, and let it divide between mayim la-mayim.
And `asah-made 'Elohiym ha-raqiya`, and divided ha-mayim which were beneath la-raqiya` from ha-mayim which were above la-raqiya`, and it was so.
And called 'Elohiym la-raqiya`, Shamayim.
And was `ereb, and was boqer; Yom Sheniy [Day Second].
And said 'Elohiym, Let ha-mayim under ha-Shamayim be gathered together unto one place, and let appear ha-yabbashah-dry-land: and it was so.
And called 'Elohiym ha-yabbashah, 'Erets, and the gathering together of ha-mayim called he Yamiym: and beheld 'Elohiym that it was good.
And all plants of the field were not yet in ha'arets, and all herbs of the field were not yet tsemach-sprouted: for not had YHWH 'Elohiym rained upon ha'arets, and there was not an 'adam for to till ha'adamah.
But there went up a mist out from ha'arets and watered the whole face of ha'adamah.
And formed YHWH 'Elohiym ha'adam of the dust of ha'adamah, and breathed into his nostrils nshamat chayiym; and became ha'adam into a nephesh chayah.
And said 'Elohiym, Let ha'arets sprout tender green grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon ha'arets: and it was so.
And birthed ha'arets tender green grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and beheld 'Elohiym, that it was good.
And YHWH 'Elohiym struck in a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put ha'adam which he had formed.
And YHWH 'Elohiym caused to tsemach-sprout out from ha'adamah every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and ra`.
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
The name of the first is Piyshon: that is it which compasses the whole 'erets ha-Chavilah, where there is gold;
And the gold of that ha'arets is good: there is ha-bdolach and eben ha-shoham.
And the name of the second river is Giychon: the same is it that compasses the whole 'erets Kush.
And the name of the third river is Chiddekel: that is it which walketh qidmat-eastward, Asshur. And the fourth river is bursting forth, (Prath).
And took YHWH 'Elohiym ha'adam, and put him into the garden of Eden to till it and to keep it.
And commanded YHWH 'Elohiym over-against ha'adam, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and ra`, thou shalt not eat mimenuw: for in the day that thou eatest mimenuw; dying thou shalt die!
And said YHWH 'Elohiym, It is not good that ha'adam should be alone; I will `asah-make for him an helper as neged-counterpart.
And formed YHWH 'Elohiym out from ha'adamah every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto ha'adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever ha'adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
And ha'adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field, but for 'adam not was found an helper as neged-counterpart to-for him.
And caused to fall YHWH 'Elohiym a deep sleep over ha'adam, and he slept: and he took one from his ribs, and shut up the flesh beneath;
And built YHWH 'Elohiym, of the rib which he had taken out from ha'adam, an 'ishah, and brought her unto ha'adam.
And said ha'adam, This ha-pa`am is bone from my bones, and flesh out from my flesh: this shall be called 'Ishshah, for out from 'iysh was taken this!
Therefore shall an 'iysh leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his 'ishah: and they shall be for one basar-flesh.
And they were both naked, ha'adam and his 'ishah, and were not ashamed.
And was `ereb, and was boqer; Yom Shliyshiy [Day Third].
But hanachash was more subtle than any chayat-beast of the field which YHWH 'Elohiym had made. And he said unto ha'ishah, Yea, hath 'Elohiym said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And said ha'ishah to hanachash, From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat:
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, 'Elohiym hath said, Not shall you eat mimenuw, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.
And said hanachash unto ha'ishah, Not dying shalt thou die:
For 'Elohiym doth know that in the Yom wherein you eat mimenuw, then shall your eyes be opened, and you shall be as 'elohiym, knowing good and ra`.
And when saw ha'ishah that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her 'iyshah-man with her; and he did eat.
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
And they heard the voice of YHWH 'Elohiym walking in the garden to/for Ruwach haYom: and ha'adam and his 'ishah hid themselves from the presence of YHWH 'Elohiym in the midst the trees of the garden.
And called YHWH 'Elohiym unto ha'adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that mimenuw thou shalt not eat?
And said ha'adam, Ha'ishah whom thou gavest with me to be, she gave to me of the tree, and I did eat.
And said YHWH 'Elohiym unto ha'ishah, What is this that thou hast done? And said ha'ishah, Hanachash beguiled me, and I did eat.
And said YHWH 'Elohiym unto hanachash, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all ha-bhemah, and above every chayat-beast of the field; according to thy belly thou shalt walk, and dust shalt thou eat all ymey-days of the chayey-life of you:
And I will put enmity between thee and ha'ishah, and between thy seed and her seed; he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Unto ha'ishah he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be toward the 'iysh-man of you, and he shall rule over you.
And to 'Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy 'ishah, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat mimenuw: cursed is ha'adamah for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the ymey-days of the chayey-life of you;
Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto ha'adamah; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
And called ha'adam the name of his 'ishah, Chavah; for she was the mother of all chay-life.
And `asah-made YHWH 'Elohiym for 'Adam and for his 'ishah, kthonot-`owr, and clothed them.
And said YHWH 'Elohiym, Behold, ha'adam is become as 'echad mimenuw, to know good and ra`, and now lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Therefore YHWH 'Elohiym sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till ha'adamah from whence he was taken.
So he drove out ha'adam; and he caused to inhabit, from the east of the garden of Eden, haKrubim, and a blazing sword which turned every way to keep the Way of the tree of ha-chayiym-life.
And ha'Adam knew Chavah his 'ishah; and she conceived, and bare Qayin, and said, Qaniytiy 'iysh 'et- YHWH!
And said 'Elohiym, Let there be lights in ha-raqiya` of ha-shamayim to divide ha-Yom from ha-Laylah; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for yamiym, and shaniym:
And let them be for lights in ha-raqiya` of ha-shamayim to give light upon ha-'arets: and it was so.
And made 'Elohiym two great lights; the greater light to rule ha-Yom, and the lesser light to rule ha-Laylah: he made also ha-kowkabiym-stars.
And 'Elohiym set them in ha-raqiya` of ha-shamayim to give light upon ha-'arets,
And to rule over ha-Yom and over ha-Laylah, and to divide the light from the darkness: and beheld 'Elohiym that it was good.
And was `ereb, and was boqer; Yom Rbiy`iy [Day Forth].
And said 'Elohiym, Let ha-mayim bring forth abundantly nephesh-chayah, and fowl that may fly above ha-'arets upon the pney-face of raqiya` ha-shamayim.
And bara'-created 'Elohiym ha-tanniynim ha-gadoliym, and every nephesh ha-chayah that moves, which ha-mayim-waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and beheld 'Elohiym that it was good.
And blessed them 'Elohiym, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill ha-mayim-waters in the yamiym-seas, and let fowl multiply in ha-'arets.
And was `ereb, and was boqer; Yom Chmiyshiy [Day Fifth].
And said 'Elohiym, Let ha-'arets bring forth nephesh chayah after his kind, bhemah, and ha-remes, and chayat of 'erets after his kind: and it was so.
And `asah-made 'Elohiym chayat-beasts of ha'arets after his kind, and bhemah after their kind, and every remes ha'adamah after his kind: and beheld 'Elohiym that it was good.
And said 'Elohiym, Let us `asah-make-cause-to-be 'Adam in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion in the fish of hayam-sea, and in the fowl of the air, and in ha-bhemah, and in all ha-'arets, and in every ha-remes that creeps over ha'-arets.
And bara'-cut down 'Elohiym ha'adam in his own image, in the image of 'Elohiym bara'-created he him; male and female bara'-created he them.
And blessed them 'Elohiym, and said unto them 'Elohiym, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill ha-'arets, and subdue it: and have dominion in the fish of the sea, and in the fowl of the air, and in every chayah-living thing that moveth upon ha-'arets.
And said 'Elohiym, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the pney-face of all ha-'arets, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.
And to every beast of ha-'arets, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon ha-'arets, wherein there is nephesh chayah, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so.
And beheld 'Elohiym every thing that he had `asah-made-done, and, behold, it was very good.
And was `ereb, and was boqer; Yom ha-Shishiy [Day the Sixth].
Thus were finished ha-shamayim and ha-'arets, and every tsaba'-host of them.
And kalah 'Elohiym his work baYom haShbiy`iy [in/through the Seventh Day] which he had `asah-made-done; and he rested baYom haShbiy`iy from all his work which he had `asah-made-done.
And blessed 'Elohiym Yom haShbiy`iy, and set-apart-sanctified it: because that in it he shabbat-rested from all his work which bara'-cut-down 'Elohiym for to `asah-do.


Ha-Npiliym hayuw ba'arets bayamiym hahem wgam 'achrey- ken 'sher yabo'uw bney ha-'Elohiym 'el- bnowtha 'adam wyalduw lahem hemah hagiboriym 'sher me`owlam 'anshey hashem.

Beware the gibborim of olam-eternity past, men named, but never said to have lived, (Jude 1:4-16).

 

[daq]

See now where is the most likely place Hoshea gets the following statement?

Hosea 6:1-2
1. Come, and let us return unto YHWH: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2. He will quicken us from two days in a day: the third he will raise us up, and we shall live before him.

The first man Adam would have died in the opening of the fourth day when he transgressed.
The sixth day of creation is within the third from the death of the first man Adam.

Isaiah 45:7-8
7. I form the light, and bara'-cut down darkness: I make peace, and bara'-cut down ra`-evil: I, YHWH, do all these things.
8. Drop down, O shamayim, from above; and let the skies pour down tsedek-righteousness: let the earth open, and let it bring forth the fruits yesha; and let tsdaqah-righteousness tsamach-sprout-shoots united; I, YHWH, did bara'-cut him down.

Isaiah 45:11-13
11. Thus says YHWH, the Holy One of Yisra'el, and his Maker, Of things to come inquire you concerning my sons? and concerning the work of my hands command you me?
12. I have `asah-made the earth, and an 'adam bara'-cut down upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out shamayim, and all their tsaba'-armies have I commanded.
13. I awakened-raised him up in tsdaqah-righteousness, and all his ways are straight: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, says YHWH Tsabaoth.

 

[HannibalFlavius]

Cool Posts Daq

 

[daq]

Cool Posts Daq

Ahah, I see how you are; now that my tanniyn crocodile is full you return.
Jus' kiddin of course, (never boil the mind of a kid goat in his milking stage) . . .

 

[HannibalFlavius]

Ahah, I see how you are; now that my tanniyn crocodile is full you return.
Jus' kiddin of course, (never boil the mind of a kid goat in his milking stage) . . .

cool, thanks for that.