Feminism

[leothelioness]

Just curious to know why people are so against it? What are your reasons for disliking feminism? What has it done, in your eyes, to make things worse? What things can you acknowledge that it has improved?

 

[drich0150]

Feminism potentially Introduces unrestricted pride into the biblical role of a woman. Unrestricted pride will destroy balance and the roles that have been given to each of us by God. Which in turns disrupts the model of the Family God wants us to be able to provide for our children.

The benefits of feminism, is that it helped (In the beginning) to rebalance the one side role that men took for themselves.

Now it proves that unrestricted pride only serves itself, and that neither happiness nor joy can be bought with it. This makes it easier for those who wish to follow God's roles to do so with a sense of contentment. Because there is no long a "What if?" to distract either person.

 

[DamianWarS]

Feminism has certainly helped with the unbalanced roles of men and women however when you do something in the name of feminism, or any cause, then that cause becomes your master. You look to that cause to define yourself and everything you do becomes a part of it. When an individual defines themselves through God there is no need to measure yourself to other standards whether its feminism or the like.

Feminism may have helped to balance but it's motives are unbalanced; it seeks for itself to be at the top. Only through God can we truly find the "perfect" balance in our life no matter what circumstance we are in. I say instead of feminism put God at the top and then become defined through him instead of your cause.

 

[Dark_Lite]

Just curious to know why people are so against it? What are your reasons for disliking feminism? What has it done, in your eyes, to make things worse? What things can you acknowledge that it has improved?

Feminism is for the most part a good thing, but the radical man-haters need to be divorced from the movement. The only kind of feminism I don't like is the hypocritical kind: the version where women still expect to be treated like dainty little flowers and having doors opened and chairs pulled out, but then getting mad when a man verbalizes anything about sexual dimorphism.

Feminism that recognizes that the sexes need to be equal in the workplace, at home, in marriage, in roles, etc but still recognizing that there are obvious differences in how the sexes operate on a physical, emotional, and social level is a benefit to society.

Feminism that tries to purport the false notion that both sexes are completely and utterly equal and exactly the same is not good, as it pretty much always goes hand-in-hand with hypocritical or ridiculously radical feminism.

 

[lux et lex]

There are so many types of feminism...it's unfortunate that a lot of people believe that by being a feminist that automatically means you're a Radical Feminist. Radical feminism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm a liberal feminist. Liberal feminism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia See the difference?

 

[DD2008]

Just curious to know why people are so against it? What are your reasons for disliking feminism? What has it done, in your eyes, to make things worse? What things can you acknowledge that it has improved?

I don't know a lot about feminism. However, women are very emotional and are easily distracted, so they are usually quite fickle and difficult to deal with about serious issues. Of course I'm not lumping them all together. However, the above mentioned observastion is common place. Women serve society best as wives and mothers.

 

[lux et lex]

I don't know a lot about feminism. However, women are very emotional and are easily distracted, so they are usually quite fickle and difficult to deal with about serious issues. Of course I'm not lumping them all together. However, the above mentioned observastion is common place. Women serve society best as wives and mothers.

The misogyny is thick in your post...please tell me you're kidding.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

the version where women still expect to be treated like dainty little flowers and having doors opened and chairs pulled out,

I agree. Anyone who claims to be a feminist yet still wants to be treated special due to their gender is not really a feminist in my book. I am a feminist, and everyone who knows me knows that I do not want to be treated like a dainty flower. I'm a EMT, volunteer in an ER, like baseball and took martial arts. Needless to say I'm not afraid to scrape up my knees or deal with blood! As for pulling out chairs and opening doors, I was just discussing that yesterday. Not only do I not expect men to do those things, I don't really want them to unless there is a reason that I can't do it myself (ie, my arms are full or I am hurt).

However, women are very emotional and are easily distracted

As are men at times("road rage" is definately an emotional reaction). In my own family, my mom is definately more level headed than my dad.

My beliefs as a feminist are that women and men should be treated equally. They should be paid equally for equal work, have the same educational opprotunities, and be able to enter the same professions(including combat). Neither women nor men should expect special treatment based solely on their gender.

Women serve society best as wives and mothers.

I disagree. I do not believe that people should be forced to abide by traditional gender roles. For instance, I see nothing wrong with the woman being the breadwinner of the family and the man staying home with the kids if that's what they each want to do. If a woman wants to be a stay at home wife and mother, great, more power to her. If a woman wants to have both a career outside the home and a family (like me), then I see no sin in that either.

 

[ebia]

I don't know a lot about feminism. However, women are very emotional and are easily distracted, so they are usually quite fickle and difficult to deal with about serious issues. Of course I'm not lumping them all together. However, the above mentioned observastion is common place. Women serve society best as wives and mothers.

Please tell me this is a Poe.

 

[ebia]

Just curious to know why people are so against it? What are your reasons for disliking feminism? What has it done, in your eyes, to make things worse? What things can you acknowledge that it has improved?

We've long needed our gender assumptions being challenged - whether that inspiration comes from Jesus' overturning of gender assumptions or elsewhere.

But there are, of course, always problems with any movement. There will be some who turn the ideal itself into a God, those who want to go to such extreme that instead of overturning inappropriate relations they've simply reversed them (which is what Paul would be trying to address in 1 Timothy), and there will be those who refuse to recognise genuine difference and complementarity (Life of Brian anyone?).

 

[Dark_Lite]

I don't know a lot about feminism. However, women are very emotional and are easily distracted, so they are usually quite fickle and difficult to deal with about serious issues. Of course I'm not lumping them all together. However, the above mentioned observastion is common place. Women serve society best as wives and mothers.

You don't want to lump all women together, but then you lump all women together...

Does not compute.

 

[dinonum]

Just curious to know why people are so against it?

I think most people are actually against radical feminism, not just feminism in general. I think they end up against feminism as a whole because of generalizations and the like.

What are your reasons for disliking feminism?

I dislike radical feminism because it leads to so many misconceptions and nothing gets accomplished.

What has it done, in your eyes, to make things worse?

Not much, although I do think that radical feminism is responsible for a higher rate of divorce and probably others things as well.

What things can you acknowledge that it has improved?

Treatment of women, ability of women choose their own path, women's rights in general, etc.

 

[DD2008]

When I think of feminism I think of bur haircuts dogcollars tatoos and hairy legs and stuff. That's scary. Are most feminists lesbians?

 

[lux et lex]

When I think of feminism I think of bur haircuts dogcollars tatoos and hairy legs and stuff. That's scary. Are most feminists lesbians?

No. I shave, have shoulder length hair, am straight, and a feminist.

 

[DD2008]

No. I shave, have shoulder length hair, am straight, and a feminist.

When you call yourself a feminist, what exactly do you mean by that then?

 

[lux et lex]

When I say I'm a feminist, I am saying that I believe in gender equality. Equal pay for equal work. Equal opportunities for equally situated people. Now, I'm not saying that I don't see that there are physical differences between men and women, but I don't believe that should be a deciding factor in ability to perform a task. For instance, if one wants to be a firefighter there should be an objective tests that requires certain tasks to be performed. If a woman can do it, fantastic. If she can't, she doesn't qualify for the job. It would be the same for a man. I know several women that are physically stronger than some men I know. They should have the opportunity to use that strength regardless of their gender.

I believe that a man can stay at home with the kids just as well as a woman can. I believe a man can wash dishes and vacuum and a woman can do repairs around the house and change the oil in the car. Gender neutrality and equality. THAT is what I mean.

 

[DD2008]

When I say I'm a feminist, I am saying that I believe in gender equality. Equal pay for equal work. Equal opportunities for equally situated people. Now, I'm not saying that I don't see that there are physical differences between men and women, but I don't believe that should be a deciding factor in ability to perform a task. For instance, if one wants to be a firefighter there should be an objective tests that requires certain tasks to be performed. If a woman can do it, fantastic. If she can't, she doesn't qualify for the job. It would be the same for a man. I know several women that are physically stronger than some men I know. They should have the opportunity to use that strength regardless of their gender.

I believe that a man can stay at home with the kids just as well as a woman can. I believe a man can wash dishes and vacuum and a woman can do repairs around the house and change the oil in the car. Gender neutrality and equality. THAT is what I mean.

Do you see any differences between masculinity and femininity other than sexual organs?

 

[lux et lex]

The differences are biological, which is sex organs but also hormones. I see you hinting at societal constructs of what is a man or what is a woman, which are created by nurture, not nature.

 

[leothelioness]

When I think of feminism I think of bur haircuts dogcollars tatoos and hairy legs and stuff. That's scary. Are most feminists lesbians?

LOL, no. As a matter of fact, the first feminists were Christians.

As someone else said before, radical feminism needs to be divorced from the movement. That's not true feminism. True feminism teaches equality, not "let's do away with those evil men and become lesbians".

 

[Avniel]

The differences are biological, which is sex organs but also hormones. I see you hinting at societal constructs of what is a man or what is a woman, which are created by nurture, not nature.

So you disagree that men and women were created differently designed to do different things, and even think differently?