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Yep. Some people need an enemy to rail against. If one is not clear, they will manufacture one.

Heres an example of what you just stated

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But on page 75 the council of the club of Rome (whatever that is) stated they were searching for a new enemy to unite us in all the said things named there.

I read that and your words immediately come to my mind.
 
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Of course they are real and necessary. The WHOLE US FINANCIAL SYSTEM is going to meltdown, one way, or another, and it aint going to be pretty. Greece is just the "canary in the coal mine". The American Dream has a wake up call, and one must be asleep to truly live the "American Dream".

These are just Luke 21:25-26 "signs" seen in the system of global governmental lights BEFORE the US hits the fan. And the EU will be the same sort of Goldman Sachs run sacking scenario. Just a matter of time, and the wealth protectors of this nation are set to protect wealth, plain and simple, and contain the chaos systematically, so the thing remains 90% functional.

Even a 10% crash will be like hell on earth in some parts of America. 2008 Global Credit Crisis was a sub-1% blip, test run of the derivatives engine. FEMA is a "crowd control" logisitical management system.

But:

1. It is NOT "the end" nor "doomsday" (Matt24:6, Luke 21:9)

A. US will only go dysfunctional 10-20%, imo, not a total pandemonium, but severe. (Dan11:42-43)

And:

2. It "heals" into world government in time. (Rev13:3)



World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ's arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

That is all you need to know. US downfall is just a wake up call. (Matt25:1-13; Hag2:7)
 
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Let's analyze this critically: What conditions are in the government's best interests and why?
  • It's in the government's best interests for both the economy and your income to grow because it increases the government's tax revenues.
  • It's in the government's best interests for the value of the dollar to appreciate relative to foreign currencies because it makes our debts easier to pay off and increases the value of tax revenues.
  • It's in the government's best interests for employment to increase because high employment rates appreciate the value of the dollar.
  • It's in the government's best interests for the people to have a high level of education because it increases the value of the work people can do. Valuable inventions rarely come from people who failed high school.
I can keep going, but I think you get the idea - it's in the government's best interests for the country to perform well, and it's also in your best interests for the country to perform well.

Dream on, lol, you must be joking.

ALL those things are at all time lows (do a little research, use Google for Christ's sake), in 25 year trends of globalism fueled decline, merely propped up by 11 TRILLION in QE and "Bail outs", and another 10 TRILLION in ECB bank stuffing by the Fed, to prime those banks for the coming "fire sale" and distort the equities markets with total steroids.

The WHOLE THING is propped up by 20 TRILLION IN TOTAL PLAY MONEY! (and all since 2008 in that 20 trillion) That is totally artificial extension over a HUGE collapse coming, when that QE myth finally starts to unwind, for real.

THE GOVERNMENT does not make global financial policy, the government is run by the Treasury technocrats, and the UNITED STATES government is the corporation to take over in this self-same sovereign debt process.

When Central Banks Rule the World


And that is no "conspiracy theory", that is the way it ACTUALLY IS.

You do realize the US is in 18 TRILLION IN DEBT RIGHT?

NOTHING IN THE WORLD, is ever going to make that "easier to pay off", nor is the interest EVER going to be "repaid".

The US government will be "foreclosed", and new terms will be given it, the terms of Revelation 13:15-18. That is what all this is leading to: America losing its sovereign autonomy (with the EU nations), by debt (Daniel 11:42-43; Habakkuk 2:6-7), FOREVER, to world government. (Daniel 11:44-45; Revelation 17:12)
 
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I'm not quite certain he exists in the first place. Though I think the idea of their ever being a one-world government or religion is a bit insane if you know anything about governments or religions.

Wasnt that you that posted that Carolo Arredondo video (Boston hero or NWO fraud video) by Betsy McGee? Because the NWO (or New world order) or one world government was mentioned on the title of the video itself along with what she went into in it towards the end of the vdeo (and she explains how she was catching the same).

You posted it (with that info in it)
 
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Seems to me we have two camps one that generally trusts the government and one that doesn't trust the government. The problem is the government is not what needs trusting. It is the people in positions of power that are either trustworthy or not and any one of those people may decide that their best interest may not coincide with the best interests of the country as a whole. As long as there are people in those positions that are not well acquainted with telling the truth and/or that believe that the ends justify the means, there will be no reason to refrain from being suspicious of anything the government attempts to do. As for concentration camps, if such things are being planned which , though I would not be surprised at I am currently skeptical of, , well, it would not be the first time we had them in the US. If anyone trusts the current crop of politicians more than FDR then they can completely discount the idea that there may again be concentration camps here. Otherwise , though there may or may not be a contingency plan already in place , it would be rather naive to think that it could not happen. Power is addictive.
 
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Wasnt that you that posted that Carolo Arredondo video (Boston hero or NWO fraud video) by Betsy McGee? Because the NWO (or New world order) or one world government was mentioned on the title of the video itself along with what she went into in it towards the end of the vdeo (and she explains how she was catching the same).

You posted it (with that info in it)

I need to self correct here that wasnt lasthero that posted that video it was Hitch on another thread (just for the record)
 
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Seems to me we have two camps one that generally trusts the government and one that doesn't trust the government.

No, it doesn't seem that way at all. Why does it have to be an either/or thing? You either think the government's made up of Care Bears or Nazis?



As for concentration camps, if such things are being planned which , though I would not be surprised at I am currently skeptical of, , well, it would not be the first time we had them in the US.

Yes, it would. When have their ever been concentration camps in this country?

If anyone trusts the current crop of politicians more than FDR then they can completely discount the idea that there may again be concentration camps here.

When did FDR build a concentration camp? Are you confusing it with an internment camp?
 
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No, it doesn't seem that way at all. Why does it have to be an either/or thing? You either think the government's made up of Care Bears or Nazis?





Yes, it would. When have their ever been concentration camps in this country?



When did FDR build a concentration camp? Are you confusing it with an internment camp?
Rather a meaningless pedantic argument, to say there's a difference between internment camps and concentration camps.

I like the care bears or NAZIs line, but dichotomous black/white does seem the American default mindset
 
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No, it doesn't seem that way at all. Why does it have to be an either/or thing? You either think the government's made up of Care Bears or Nazis?

I find it quite humorous that you think you can dictate how things seem to me. If they seem different to you go ahead and tell me what other options people have expressed here besides trusting the government or not trusting the government.

When did FDR build a concentration camp? Are you confusing it with an internment camp?

No, I'm just using a more accurate term rather than a euphemism.
 
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Rather a meaningless pedantic argument, to say there's a difference between internment camps and concentration camps.

I like the care bears or NAZIs line, but dichotomous black/white does seem the American default mindset

At least with the Nazis we were told in advance what they wanted. The Care Bears are much less up front about their insidious designs.
 
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Rather a meaningless pedantic argument, to say there's a difference between internment camps and concentration camps.
Hardly. Concentration camps were slave labor death camps while the internment camps were merely prisons.

Concentration camp:
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Internment camp:
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Hardly. Concentration camps were slave labor death camps while the internment camps were merely prisons.
Maybe research the history of the term a little?

I'm not saying that the experience of people in American camps was comparable to that of the people in German ones. But a "concentration camp" is just a place for interning like people. "Concentrating" them, if you will. The horrors associated with the German ones in the 40s is not actually implicit in the meaning.

Unfortunately, as with so much of the era, a great deal of specific meaning has been lost by the general example making of all things NAZI. I believe that the first recorded use of the term is of British camps during the Boer War. It's hard to even find information, since any web search with the term "concentration camp" in it immediately leads to hundred of Holocaust related hits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War#Concentration_camps_.281900.E2.80.931902.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment

You may think I'm playing semantics, but I consider myself a pedant. Internment camps and concentration camps are the same thing. Killing people with overwork and starvation is not an inherent property of them.
 
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Maybe research the history of the term a little?

I'm not saying that the experience of people in American camps was comparable to that of the people in German ones. But a "concentration camp" is just a place for interning like people. "Concentrating" them, if you will. The horrors associated with the German ones in the 40s is not actually implicit in the meaning.

Unfortunately, as with so much of the era, a great deal of specific meaning has been lost by the general example making of all things NAZI. I believe that the first recorded use of the term is of British camps during the Boer War. It's hard to even find information, since any web search with the term "concentration camp" in it immediately leads to hundred of Holocaust related hits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War#Concentration_camps_.281900.E2.80.931902.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment

You may think I'm playing semantics, but I consider myself a pedant. Internment camps and concentration camps are the same thing. Killing people with overwork and starvation is not an inherent property of them.
The specific internment camps being referred to in this thread were the American ones for those of Japanese ancestry and they were being compared to the Nazi camps.

If I had my druthers, I'd prefer the FEMA camps follow the all-American style than the Nazi style, but with all the rumors of the gummint buying up body bags - wholesale!!! - my expectations are not great.
 
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