feeling sad

[kitty1]

Wow And We Call Ourselves Christians.

 

[kitty1]

WELL EXCUSE ME FOR BEING UNPERSONAL BY NOT RUNNING MY HUSBAND TO THE GROUND. remember I dont know you. I havent felt at all that I am on a christian site I could be on a non christian site and may get something better in the flesh. Its ok you know I have found God and possibly that is all I need. I thankyou for caring to make comments to my post though defended myself due to such perception and only one situation was considered in my post not much comfort that I have received from so called christians

 

[Avniel]

I am so sadden and sorry if I offended you though I didnt know your story. I was defensive toward my own story. you had made comments towards me that were so incorrect. if you wish to disect my post go back to the first post

I can't because I have nothing to offer you but scriptural advice.

 

[Avniel]

Wow And We Call Ourselves Christians.

Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

 

[kitty1]

Sometimes we as Christians need to learn not to apologize for the truth, that's not love Valley. You showed her nothing but love and for her to respond like that to you is unscrupulous. Please edit the apology out please you did nothing wrong. People need to get used to hearing the truth out of love.

what TRUTH did you get out of my first post to make such a comment. I am not sayign someone was wrong. I defended myself from perception and assumption. My post seems to have turned ugly not supportive at all
i expected that i would get an godly answer from christians not regarding the law of the flesh

 

[ValleyGal]

what TRUTH did you get out of my first post to make such a comment. I am not sayign someone was wrong. I defended myself from perception and assumption. My post seems to have turned ugly not supportive at all
i expected that i would get an godly answer from christians not regarding the law of the flesh

He was talking to me.

 

[kitty1]

??Perceived Safety?
might be acting ??

this is judgemental from your thoughts. MIGHT be acting is judgemental

MY PERCEIVED safety is judgement from your thoughts


these are your comments that are not supportive and totally incorrect

 

[kitty1]

same thing

 

[kitty1]

I Am Going To Pray That I Do Not Loose Trust In My Fellow Man

 

[kitty1]

oK I have been self centered because I am not in the frame of mind to comment on peoples own personal problems that have been adddressed.

I have been told that I have the problem and I need help obviously something has been perceived from my first post.

I have been told that there are two sides to each story which is correct though am I wrong in asserting myself to my husband in telling him that I felt hurt by his actions.

I have been advised to call the police WHY WHY what was said did i say that I was not safe ??

I defended myself due to the assumptions that have been written and was told that I am wayyyyy out of line

I have been told to grow up is this because I am emotional at the moment


It was assumed that I sit at home and wait to attack my husband with my negativity

I have been advised that I may have a problem with men

I have heard some of you argue your opinions

most of you have talked from the flesh not godly in a christian forum


I just want to let you all know that I am OK though because I have let some of your comments go

 

[kitty1]

I think you're making an assumption that he has never done this before.

I'm a little confused. You are studying to be a lawyer. Yet you don't think police should be called when a woman has been physically violated and assaulted by her husband? Do you think calling police is more damaging than the original assault, or not calling the police which will set a precedent that it's okay for him to hit her and she won't call? Where does a woman draw the line and finally make that call?

Would you say the same thing if it were a parent hitting a child? Or a child hitting a parent? Or a friend hitting a friend, or a stranger hitting a stranger? Hitting and mishandling are assaults. Period. Against the law. In fact, where I live, if you even touch someone against their will, it is considered an assault and is grounds for arrest.

yes I agree with your comment here the police need to be called in some instances.

 

[Avniel]

oK I have been self centered because I am not in the frame of mind to comment on peoples own personal problems that have been adddressed.

No you are self centered because I used my personal experience as an example of why not to assume someone is physically abusing their wife. Which your husband has not done so my example actually was correct. You are self centered because you missed my point and only saw someone was taking away from your attention with a personal example which wasn't the case. Illogical.

I have been told that I have the problem and I need help obviously something has been perceived from my first post.

You did not come here looking for help how can one help you when they do not know your situation. Illogical

I have been told that there are two sides to each story which is correct though am I wrong in asserting myself to my husband in telling him that I felt hurt by his actions.

We don't even know what you did to assert yourself, so how can one say you are wrong when they don't even know what you did? They don't even know what you did? That is illogical.

I have been advised to call the police WHY WHY what was said did i say that I was not safe ??

I think that was what I commented on with my personal story however you missed the entire point and did not try to comprehend what I was even saying. The point of my personal story was to tell people it's hurtful when people suggest physical violence when it is not the case. It is illogical to have an issue with me posting my personal story then agreeing with my point I was illustrating. Illogical and hypocritical.

I defended myself due to the assumptions that have been written and was told that I am wayyyyy out of line

I have made no assumptions I simple commented on the lack of knowledge on a situation which leads one to make assumptions one way or the other. Illogical


I have been told to grow up is this because I am emotional at the moment

You were told to grow up due to your poor behavior, attitude and disrespect of other. Once again you have created this atmosphere in your thread however you portray it like you are a victim you certainly are not.

It was assumed that I sit at home and wait to attack my husband with my negativity

I think by your interaction if one made that assumption based on your behavior in this thread it would certainly be a logical one. If your husband felt that you create situation to become the victim when you are not, I would not be surprised. Most of your issues with other posters is illogical.

I have been advised that I may have a problem with men

Who stated you had a problem with men please quote that to me.

I have heard some of you argue your opinions

I don't think there was any argument in here, people simple gave their opinion which is what happens in the marriage forum maybe this is better suited in the prayer forum. It is illogical for you to post in a forum with many different races, genders, cultures and political views and expect everyone to agree.

most of you have talked from the flesh not godly in a christian forum

Not particularly you have spoken mostly from the flesh. You want people to support you even if they don't know if you are right or wrong, that's your flesh. Love rejoices in the truth how can one show you that love when all you want is people to feel sorry for you. That is not love pity is not love. Supporting someone through their sin is very easy and is the starting point of a codependent relationship. No one can show you love or give you love because you don't want godly love you want fleshly dependence on pity which I can not do.

I just want to let you all know that I am OK though because I have let some of your comments go

I want you to know that you need to look towards God and move away from your fleshly desires to be validated even if you could be wrong. Learn to allow people to walk in love and stop mistaking love for hatred. The bible teaches us that "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." If you didn't see the love in Valley's comments and other posters comments then you need to spend time with Him and learn His ways. I can not help you because you don't want advice you want people to feel sorry for you. I don't feel sorry for myself, I don't feel sorry for my wife, I don't feel sorry for my daughter I am certainly not going to feel sorry for you especially when you could have been the main antagonist in the situation.

 

[Avniel]

He was talking to me.

“Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart. 5 And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them.”

Some people aren't going to get it as fast as we would like valley.

 

[kitty1]

1) This a forum that is the reason for a forum to share opinions and different perspectives to widen ones horizons and learn how other's think. Have you ever watched a forum on tv?

2) I have never made an assumption nor did valley what she said was if and that you should. No matter if she was wrong or right, she took her time out of her day to tell you how to protect yourself because she didn't want you to go through what she did. I might disagree with her and think she needed more information before stating such but her action was out of love and therefore the most Christian thing to do. For you to say anything but 'no he's not hitting me but thank you so much for your concern" and then to bring up Christianity is hypocrisy.

3) You may not think about who is wrong and who is right, however there are situations where one person is wrong. For example someone leaves your car light on and you believe it was your husband you tell him about leaving the car light on but he didn't it was a friend or neighbor or a robber or even an electrical problem....would you be the wrong party or is your husband partly to blame?

4) In a relationship most times people sit around blaming the other person. Similar to how people read the bible and always point outward instead inward. The key isn't to look to see where another person is equally as wrong as you so there is someone to share the blame with but to have a mirror and examine your on personal actions. Don't worry about how wrong he is, or what he has done to equal your wrong.

5) You started a thread in my opinion expecting or wanting a pity party. That is not love, love rejoices in the truth and I as christian can't support you in your wrong. So how then can I support you or not support you with this situation if I don't know if you are wrong or right? I can't support you in your sin.

6) I don't even understand what you mean you need support and he needs support. How can we support you and we don't know your situation?

Last post I just find the insults and the things you said about valley particularly rude because she wasn't just posting because she is bored like others she took the time to actually care about your safety the least you could do with that is be appreciative. Instead of spitting in her face....shame.

My original post was not about who was wrong or right I was needing some comfort in the way i was feeling that is all. not about expecting pitty but about receiving some love from christian people. when i mentioned we both need support obviously it could not come from this site as he is not on here. yes love rejoices in the truth so correct do you think i do not speak the truth of how i am feeling. i know you cannot support me if you dont know if i am wrong or right correct though should you judge this without knowing me. did i say something that made you think i am not posting what i feel. i havent run my husband down to a point of blame I have had to assert myself in something he had said to me which was had hurt my feelings and i told him is this a sin.
how is thanking someone for their concern of my husband hitting me christian hypocrisy ?

I had no personal action for him to become aggressive in perceiving that i had done something wrong. as in your statement and I dont sit around etc etc.

I feel you have a past of emotional torment to suggest and disect what was not said in my original post. my post writes that I am in a confused state of mind and not know how to deal with forgiving him as he is not a christian and ignores me until i continue to forgive him continually as I should though him not being a christian does not understand why I do this. so how will he ever learn that it is aggression in any form is unacceptable behaviour.

 

[kitty1]

I want you to know that you need to look towards God and move away from your fleshly desires to be validated even if you could be wrong. Learn to allow people to walk in love and stop mistaking love for hatred. The bible teaches us that "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." If you didn't see the love in Valley's comments and other posters comments then you need to spend time with Him and learn His ways. I can not help you because you don't want advice you want people to feel sorry for you. I don't feel sorry for myself, I don't feel sorry for my wife, I don't feel sorry for my daughter I am certainly not going to feel sorry for you especially when you could have been the main antagonist in the situation.

how judgemental of you even thinking that i could have been the antagonist in the situation. the aggression came from him for no reason as he assumed an issue. you have hurt me deeply because i had trust in my christian family
sometimes a person receives hurt from someone that is cruel with out reason if they are sick
Anviel you are the type of person that would send people in a deep depressive state if they had no one else to turn too for help. I would suggest you stay off this site before you do someone else emotional harm.
God will decide on you and your opinions

I would ask you to go back to my original post and read your posts that you have sent me ask yourself if there is any relevant post to me.
you are definately not a people person are you.
show your responses to your pastor for advice of where you have hurt me

 

[kitty1]

i have now received a reply that I could have been the antagonist
any more digs people

 

[Avniel]

My original post was not about who was wrong or right I was needing some comfort in the way i was feeling that is all. not about expecting pitty but about receiving some love from christian people. when i mentioned we both need support obviously it could not come from this site as he is not on here. yes love rejoices in the truth so correct do you think i do not speak the truth of how i am feeling. i know you cannot support me if you dont know if i am wrong or right correct though should you judge this without knowing me. did i say something that made you think i am not posting what i feel. i havent run my husband down to a point of blame I have had to assert myself in something he had said to me which was had hurt my feelings and i told him is this a sin.
how is thanking someone for their concern of my husband hitting me christian hypocrisy ?

I had no personal action for him to become aggressive in perceiving that i had done something wrong. as in your statement and I dont sit around etc etc.

I feel you have a past of emotional torment to suggest and disect what was not said in my original post. my post writes that I am in a confused state of mind and not know how to deal with forgiving him as he is not a christian and ignores me until i continue to forgive him continually as I should though him not being a christian does not understand why I do this. so how will he ever learn that it is aggression in any form is unacceptable behaviour.

Now this is my flesh becoming unwilling to post what seems as thought it should be simple to comprehend.

1) How can one comfort you in your wrongness?
2) Not knowing if you are wrong or right makes it impossible to offer you any comfort but prayer.
3) Love is rejoicing in the truth in reference to #2 how can I show you love when I do not know the truth in it's entirety
4) How can I make a judgement on you other then how you have behaved towards other posters
5) I am not judging you I am looking at the fruit you have shown in this post even in our interactions.
6) I have made no judgement of you at all, I have simply stated with the verbiage and lack of information there are very extreme situation and or it could be some where in the middle. I used personal stories and examples to illustrate this.
7) No you said something that made left important details which made it impossible for anyone to give you information and godly love. All we can do is appease your flesh.
8) No I said not thanking someone for their concern of your personal safety particularly with your vague description and then stating what is Christlike and what is not is hypocrisy. Especially when that person came at you with nothing but love.
9) What statement did I say you sit around and blah blah? Please quote me and highlight it because I am unaware of making that accusation. It would be illogical for me to state so particularly because I lack all information other then your feelings are hurt.
10) How do I know you did nothing to him to deserve him to be aggressive?
11) I don't know what he did to you that was aggressive, he could have rolled his eyes, got mad at you and went for a drive, he could have slammed a door, called you a name..............the key is I don't know if he behaved aggressively using a reasonable guide of what aggression is. It's illogical to expect one to understand this.
12) No past of emotional torment I just am in law school and it teaches you how to think more analytically.
13) Again in order for me to comprehend and understand how to advice you or what scriptural encouragement to offer when I do not know your definition of aggression.
14) Maybe it's not unacceptable behavior maybe it is acceptable behavior I wouldn't know.


Basically the moral to 1-14 I cant judge you I'm not trying to I don't have enough information to even create an opinion of you or your situation. What I can do is go off your behavior on this post and gauge what I believe could have occurred. However I don't have the time to do it like that.

 

[Avniel]

i have now received a reply that I could have been the antagonist
any more digs people

It's illogical to have a person believe that you couldn't be the antagonist in the situation and it's illogical for a person to believe you were the antagonist.

 

[kitty1]

It's illogical to have a person believe that you couldn't be the antagonist in the situation and it's illogical for a person to believe you were the antagonist.

you very judgemental person you continue to aggrevate the situation without knowing the full story.
you are illogical very much so I can know understand why you had a difficult past. like I said no one that is upset in there own lifes can have a clear mind to help others. like I said go back an analyse my first post. I dont think you are capable. You are definately not a people person to try and degrade me for my situation i am in I may not be us intellegent as you though I now when I can trust

Anviel Iam interest to know what religion or god do you follow not to judge at all just so I can understand your beliefs

 

[kitty1]

PLEASE SOMEONE ADVISE ME HOW TO BLOCK OR IGNORE POSTS THAT I DO NOT NEED TO READ as some post without reason of knowing my story