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Fat chance..

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by visionary, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:22 AM.

  1. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    Isaiah 47:14-15 The Message...
    “Fat chance. You’d be grasping at straws that are already in the fire, A fire that is even now raging. Your ‘experts’ are in it and won’t get out. It’s not a fire for cooking venison stew, not a fire to warm you on a winter night! That’s the fate of your friends in pharmaca, your magician buddies you’ve been in cahoots with all your life. They reel, confused, bumping into one another. None of them bother to help you.”

    Many read scriptures with an eye on the past, thinking it is not applicable in many parts for what is happening all around us today. Pharmaca is one of those 'accepted" authorities which many believers believe. But it is part of the fulfillment of scripture...

    G5331 φαρμακεία Transliteration pharmakeia Pronunciation fär-mä-kā'-ä φαρμακεύς (G5332)
    Vine's Expository Dictionary: sorcery (2x), witchcraft (1x).
    Outline of Biblical Usage G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):—sorcery, witchcraft.

    But lets take a closer look at this Revelation from God... and think a little deeper on the implications...

    Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries G5331 were all nations deceived.

    First thing I notices was that God's Holy Spirit no longer dwells within, and the second is that it is deceptive but useful for the merchants of the world. So my question is, what kind of medication is it that causes people to lose the ability to hear the Holy Spirit. Is it the ultimate blasphemy? Is it a drink?

    Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    So what is in the drink and why is it called a sin?

    Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
     
  2. ~Cassia~

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    My guess is the drink is the blood of the saints,
     
  3. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    You do realize, right, that it is who the person trusts,
    not the medication,
    and most persons never seek or know God ? They routinely reject Him, from conception they are evil, and all their lives, as written in Scripture.

    All through society that exalts experts and phds and "popular" lies...

    and what society exalts, what men THINK is good or great or trustworthy,

    God calls (...censored ...) ...
     
  4. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    That is one level, but then there are the believers who also believe the deception because when it comes to the study of "pharmica" and all that is implied.. its role in end time events... all of a sudden.. that is brushed aside as not important.
     
  5. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    As it is written "the whole world will be (is) deceived by pharmakeia",
    this has happened already, and continues more forced upon men every day, in every country.
     
  6. visionary

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    I believe this is not some future event but currently actively gathering teeth to its absolute enforcement to the delight of the merchants and the detriment of the citizens of earth.
     
  7. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Totally.
    WHy do so many who visit the forum
    trust men who decieve the whole world ?

    Our fathers and grand fathers often did also - they did not know better (for whatever reason and not knowing experientially Scripture), and there was almost no one to teach them.
     
  8. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    Today we have the opportunity, the information, the "right to know", and the right to object.. which if it gets lost in the "research" of the establishment, will be the ultimate downfall of mankind.
     
  9. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    WHERE ?
     
  10. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    internet
     
  11. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    It is overwhelmingliy more difficult to find any truth on the internet for almost anyone who has access.

    TESTING everything is always necessary, and there are hundreds or thousands times more fake sites than there are even just acceptable sites.

    The old time, proven, tested, true to Scripture BOOKS
    are less and less available or depended upon it seems,
    and more and more FALSE info is
    routinely accepted (as seen in dozens of threads and many more posts today).
     
  12. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    God leads if you have but ears to hear and prayers for guidance.
     
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