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Oh my goodness! I was talking to someone from Armenia and I googled the couuntry and I saw pictures! Oh my! It was too much I had to turn away1 Idn't even know about how the suffered. I need to learn more!
The Armenians suffered alot
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In the Coptic Orthodox tradition we fast without eating anything( food or water )and then we eat food without any meat ,diary or milk
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Bushmaster said:
No, just a realization on my part how this will end. Unless you noticed, it's already started happening.
Oh, I am serious. But as for respect, you'll have to elaborate on that one.
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That article is so riddled with factual errors that anyone who insists on the factuality of the link loses any credibility in convincing me why I should change my avatar.
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Ok, Factual Error #1:
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[/FONT]Huh? It is extremely well established by historians that the Greeks of western Asia Minor, who had been part of the Empire since its first century, were a well-established, well-integrated group in Ottoman society, contributing greatly within the fields of trade and imperial administration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanariot
Should I list more factual errors?
Philothei, I just saw the post in the other thread about your grandmother having been part of the Smyrnan massacre. Would it be meaningless to offer a condoleance? In any case, I think you should note that the Ottoman Empire is not the same as the (Kemalist ) Turkish Republic, which did that. The Ottoman Empire and the Turkish Republic might all just like murderous Turks to you, but they are worlds apart in ideology. Really, I despise the Kemalists too, probably as much as anyone here does.
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the article said:
[/FONT]Huh? It is extremely well established by historians that the Greeks of western Asia Minor, who had been part of the Empire since its first century, were a well-established, well-integrated group in Ottoman society, contributing greatly within the fields of trade and imperial administration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanariot
Should I list more factual errors?
Philothei, I just saw the post in the other thread about your grandmother having been part of the Smyrnan massacre. Would it be meaningless to offer a condoleance? In any case, I think you should note that the Ottoman Empire is not the same as the (Kemalist ) Turkish Republic, which did that. The Ottoman Empire and the Turkish Republic might all just like murderous Turks to you, but they are worlds apart in ideology. Really, I despise the Kemalists too, probably as much as anyone here does.
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Philothei
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I do not need your sympathy and condolences mean nothing to me. I am not a Turk or Muslim fanatic either. it is just plain fact that Ottoman empire did nothing to save the christians from the extremists... they just tolerated the christians... If the Ottomans were little angels how come all these genocide took place silently and genisari practice started under them? Do not tell me you do not know about the gennisari practice of taking 10,000 young children and make them into Turkish soldiers every 5-10 years? want links ... I can get them for you and btw do not quote from encyclodepias are you first grade of something?
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Philothei
Love never fails
http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Turkish.php
I know i am not going to persuade you so keep your Pro-ottoman propaganda to yourself since you cannot persuade anyone here either...
I know i am not going to persuade you so keep your Pro-ottoman propaganda to yourself since you cannot persuade anyone here either...
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Respect?
1. Came here as janissary first - in most cases Orthodox Christian child taken by force from his parents and by force converted to islam to be made a foot soldier.
2. "nestoj, get stuffed" - ring a bell...
3. "My bravado is solely aimed at those who are dissing the Islamic fast claiming that the Orthodox is truer somehow" - you come to TAW and tell us we don't have a right to place Orthodox Christianity before islam...
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nestoj
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I already showed you one error in that article. You ignored my refutation. I can show you several more errors in that article, if you keep on insisting it is somehow accurate.
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