False Narrative about Kamala unravels

[Ana the Ist]

Here's a novel idea for you: a non-white and non-male may be even more competent than her peers.

Well to be clear....she wasn't. Her record as a prosecutor was dismal. The average conviction rate of a CA prosecutor was 85% when she was practicing law....and hers was only 55%.

So objectively, she wasn't even as good as her peers. If you want to look at her 1 term in Senate, she missed more votes than her peers... and voted along party lines 87% of the time if I remember correctly...the most partisan Senator of her term. She introduced no legislation to my knowledge.

She's been a dud since day 1...chosen for her race and sex, two things the new left is obsessed over.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Are you claiming Harris has no competence because she is a Woman and person of color?

I'm claiming 2 things...

1. She was selected for her race and sex. Joe made this clear when he announced he would choose a colored woman for VP.

2. She's incompetent because of her record. She was a terrible prosecutor for the state of CA and she accomplished nothing during her time in Senate or as VP.

Obviously a woman or racial minority can be competent at the jobs she has had....but she clearly isn't.

 

[A2SG]

There are only three qualifications for President (and, by extension, Vice President), according to the Constitution:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.​

Kamala Harris meets all three. So, she's qualified.

Even if one were to object to her accomplishments in any previous job she held, or the reasons Biden chose her as his running mate, the argument that any of that means she's unqualified to be President is false.

Everyone is entitled to vote for her, or not, as they see fit. For whatever reason.

-- A2SG, even if they only dislike the way she laughs....

 

[Aldebaran]

Are you claiming Harris has no competence because she is a Woman and person of color?

Do you think it's correct to assume that someone has competence primarily because she is a Woman and person of color?
Or do you think competence takes a back seat as long as the person is a Woman and person of color?

 

[Aldebaran]

Here's a novel idea for you: a non-white and non-male may be even more competent than her peers. You seem to believe that rather than hire a DEI person from the pool of roughly equally qualified people, DEIs are sought from an inferior pool of people.

If the pool of people were sought because of their DEI aspects, it is because they were viewed as inferior in competence, and that's why they had to be considered based on gender and race rather than merit.

 

[Aldebaran]

There are only three qualifications for President (and, by extension, Vice President), according to the Constitution:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.​

Kamala Harris meets all three. So, she's qualified.

Too bad Biden didn't think of those qualifications, but focused primarily on her gender and skin color.

 

[A2SG]

Too bad Biden didn't think of those qualifications, but focused primarily on her gender and skin color.

How do you know he didn't think of any other qualifications beyond those? Are you privy to his thoughts?

-- A2SG, are you a mind reader? Quick, what number am I thinking of right now?

 

[DaisyDay]

Do you think it's correct to assume that someone has competence primarily because she is a Woman and person of color?
Or do you think competence takes a back seat as long as the person is a Woman and person of color?

Huh, that’s a weird question. The answer is no. But y’all seem to think the reverse is true….do you?

 

[DaisyDay]

If the pool of people were sought because of their DEI aspects, it is because they were viewed as inferior in competence, and that's why they had to be considered based on gender and race rather than merit.

Well, that answers my question. Your reasoning is very flawed because of your assumption that being a woman of color automatically makes that person incompetent. You are saying that the pool of competent people contains no women, no one not white and no one who isn’t of European descent.

 

[Aldebaran]

How do you know he didn't think of any other qualifications beyond those? Are you privy to his thoughts?

-- A2SG, are you a mind reader? Quick, what number am I thinking of right now?

If he did (and thought them worthy of mentioning), he most likely would have said so.

 

[Aldebaran]

Huh, that’s a weird question. The answer is no. But y’all seem to think the reverse is true….do you?

Nope! Us all like to think character comes before skin color.

 

[Aldebaran]

Well, that answers my question. Your reasoning is very flawed because of your assumption that being a woman of color automatically makes that person incompetent. You are saying that the pool of competent people contains no women, no one not white and no one who isn’t of European descent.

I didn't assume that. Those who choose people based on gender and skin color do. I simply call them out on it.

 

[DaisyDay]

If he did (and thought them worthy of mentioning), he most likely would have said so.

Or the assumption is that they would be chosen from the pool of vetted potentials rather than randos from the street.

Nope! Us all like to think character comes before skin color.

That's nice. Did you know that there are women of color who not only have good character but are competent too!?

I didn't assume that. Those who choose people based on gender and skin color do. I simply call them out on it.

You seem to assume that gender and color are the first consideration srather than the final ones. Why is that?

 

[Aldebaran]

Or the assumption is that they would be chosen from the pool of vetted potentials rather than randos from the street.

A pool that was selected based on skin color first and foremost.

That's nice. Did you know that there are women of color who not only have good character but are competent too!?

Sure there are, but he didn't pick one of those. He chose the least likable, and the first to drop out of the primary race.

You seem to assume that gender and color are the first consideration srather than the final ones. Why is that?

Because that's what Biden said was his primary considerations. I believed him.

 

[DaisyDay]

A pool that was selected based on skin color first and foremost.

Why would you suppose that the larger pool was based on race rather than just the final criteria? I think it's because you lack a charitable view and simply choose the worst spin possible.

Sure there are, but he didn't pick one of those. He chose the least likable, and the first to drop out of the primary race.

He did choose one of those, though. While she may not be your cup of tea, a lot of us find her far more likeable and competent and sane than our guy.

Because that's what Biden said was his primary considerations. I believed him.

He said he wanted to choose a black woman but he did not say it was his primary consideration.

 

[rjs330]

Why is that?

Ummm... because Biden said so?

 

[rjs330]

I think it's because you lack a charitable view and simply choose the worst spin possible.

Whynshoild we be charitable to Biden who decided to use sex and skin color regardless of competence?

He said he wanted to choose a black woman but he did not say it was his primary consideration.

Yes he did.

 

[probinson]

While she may not be your cup of tea, a lot of us find her far more likeable and competent and sane than our guy.

That's a recent development. Up until Biden dropped out of the race, Harris was running +17.4 unfavorable in opinion polls.

That is an astounding turnaround in such a short amount of time. So you'll forgive me when I say it rings hollow when you say "a lot of us" find her "likable" when just a little over a month ago the polls told a completely different story.

 

[probinson]

You seem to assume that gender and color are the first consideration srather than the final ones. Why is that?

Because they were.

The case that some Democrats are making for choosing a black woman, briefly explained​

There are several reasons experts have cited for Biden to choose a black woman as vice president: Doing so would acknowledge the range of voices in the party, give a nod to how black voters helped boost him in the primary — particularly in the critical state of South Carolina — and inspire greater voter turnout.​

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The push for Joe Biden to choose a black woman as his running mate, explained

Some Democrats are looking for more representation on the ticket — and a vice presidential pick who will boost turnout.

www.vox.com

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This article makes clear that there were many Democrats that were calling for a black woman vice president. Those were, in fact, the top two considerations. If you weren't a black woman when Biden was choosing his VP running mate, you need not apply.

 

[DaisyDay]

Ummm... because Biden said so?

Cite?

Whynshoild we be charitable to Biden who decided to use sex and skin color regardless of competence?

1 Cor 13

Yes he did.

Cite?