Jesus came to restore the relationship between God and men.1. "sinlessness is not possible." Why isn't it possible when that is what Jesus came to achieve in us?
Better sin management by the redeemed is a by-product.
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Jesus came to restore the relationship between God and men.1. "sinlessness is not possible." Why isn't it possible when that is what Jesus came to achieve in us?
It is an ad hominem. It, frequently, pops up when one's arguments are lacking ...Another falsehood. You're on a roll.
The gospel has never been that God will remove from you the earthly consequences of your actions ...My cousin got deceived by the fake gospel
regarding his sin
I tried to redirect him to no avail
he was recently sent to prison.
Probably not an easy destination
for a 64 year old man
but, sin can take one there
very fast at times.
Don't play with sin
don't let it in
if sin has been sent
time to Repent.
M-Bob
I have no dispute with anyone striving to live a sinless life ... but to think that one may achieve and/or maintain relationship with God by doing so ... is an erroneous understanding of the gospel.Sinless perfection is also a "false gospel".
What of the sin of pride ???... I've seen newly born again Christian's lives change overnight by the power of the Holy Spirit, and the desire to sin is gone.
The true gospel says that "if we sin ... we have an Advocate".The false gospel denies this power, and says we will always sin.
God tells us that "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness".Do you want to sin? You are taking it for granted. That is denying the power of the Holy Spirit.
First let's see if we are on the same page about sin. There are two kinds. Are you talking about willful sinning - knowing it is wrong and doing it anyway, such as not honoring your parents, stealing, lying, murder, coveting the riches of this world and your neighbor? Or are you talking about the unintentional sins of imperfection?
I humbly ask, are you sinless?
Why do you shy away from this question ?I'll check for your answers later.
Paul says that salvation (neither the obtaining or the keeping) ... is through any works which we may do ... but according to His mercy ...Prove it's a False Gospel.
What you're missing in your teaching is that Jesus here is referring the BASIS of your salvation (i.e. what you BUILD upon) ....It was satan who told Eve that it was ok to eat from the tree of knowledge. He said to her surely you will not die. I see the same coming from some Christian groups who advocate a belief only salvation. Jesus said in Matthew 7 He who hears my words and ACTS on them is like the wise man who built his house on the rock. When the storms come it will not collapse.
There were 50 in the upper room ... no ???Only 12 during the outpouring. The 120 were another time and place.
Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. They were believers See Hebrews 11.
The true gospel says that "if we sin ... we have an Advocate".
What of the sin of pride ???
Why do you shy away from this question ?
So you're saying that the scripture is inadequate here ?The problem with this statement is it doesn't say what type of sin. Jesus is NOT our Advocate for willful sins. If you notice, no repentance is required, so what kind would that be?
What of the sin of coveting ?What has that to do with my post? What about the sin of unbelief?
So willful sins are unpardonable? No Advocate,no forgiveness? Even after a person would truly repent?The problem with this statement is it doesn't say what type of sin. Jesus is NOT our Advocate for willful sins. If you notice, no repentance is required, so what kind would that be?