Faith and Salvation

[rockybashful]

A thought popped into my head and I'm not really to sure what to think of it, so I was wondering what you all think. Could you tell me if this is a biblically accurate statement (also share comments)

"Our belief in Jesus wouldn't save us if God hadn't given Him to us"

 

[d taylor]

Your belief in Jesus saves you because He is Eternal Life (salvation)

 

[Brightfame52]

A thought popped into my head and I'm not really to sure what to think of it, so I was wondering what you all think. Could you tell me if this is a biblically accurate statement (also share comments)

"Our belief in Jesus wouldn't save us if God hadn't given Him to us"

Faith doesnt save anyone, Christ does that, then because He saved us, He gives us Faith to believe in Him.

 

[rockybashful]

Faith doesnt save anyone, Christ does that, then because He saved us, He gives us Faith to believe in Him.

That's exactly what I was originally thinking, but I had put it into different words just to see if anyone could catch my original thought.. hehe.. thanks for the feedback

I'm rarely on the forum, but I'm thinking of occasionally dropping a thought or question here for discussion to see other people's perspectives

 

[Hazelelponi]

A thought popped into my head and I'm not really to sure what to think of it, so I was wondering what you all think. Could you tell me if this is a biblically accurate statement (also share comments)

"Our belief in Jesus wouldn't save us if God hadn't given Him to us"

Hebrews 12:2 says Jesus is the author and perfecter of faith. All faith within the one who believes was authored by Jesus Christ. Philippians 1:29 says it’s been “granted” unto us to believe in Jesus Christ. And Acts of the Apostles 3:16 says all faith in Christ is faith that has come from and through Christ. So, all faith in Christ originates in Christ Himself. He must grant this faith, and He grants it to those who have been chosen by God from before the foundation of the world. Second Peter 1:1 also says faith must be given.

How Is Faith a Gift? — Ask Ligonier

 

[Soyeong]

A thought popped into my head and I'm not really to sure what to think of it, so I was wondering what you all think. Could you tell me if this is a biblically accurate statement (also share comments)

"Our belief in Jesus wouldn't save us if God hadn't given Him to us"

God promised that He would send a Redeemer and our faith in Jesus is in regard to the fulfillment of that promise, so if God hadn't kept His promise, then our faith in the promise would have been worthless.

 

[Ephfourfive]

We are saved by grace thru Jesus Christ in His church and thru His sacraments!


The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!




The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

 

[Brightfame52]

We are saved by grace thru Jesus Christ in His church and thru His sacraments!


The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!




The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

This sounds like Salvation by works also !

 

[Ephfourfive]

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ! Eph 2:8
Galatians 2:16 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Jn 3:5 acts 2:38 Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Sanctification: the life of grace in the holy sacrifice of the mass and sacraments, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love! Phil 1:29 called to suffer with Christ.
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Heb 4:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Rom 13:11 ...for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Then Once saved always saved!