Faith a belief without knowing for sure

[Crowns&Laurels]

Faith is the ability to maintain conviction and trust when fear or temptation tries to breach in.
According to the Testaments, doubt is not an antonym of faith. It rather comes after the fact as a means of reconciliation of fears and temptations.
That is, what the Bible describes as something such as 'intellectualism' is simply a mechanism of denial. The Apostle Paul states that God is self-evident.

 

[juvenissun]

So many people spending their lives hoping for an afterlife. Do they spend their afterlives hoping for an afterafterlife?

They do in some religions.

 

[juvenissun]

Does a fish regret water? People understand that this world is not the correct one for us.

Then, kill himself.
There are many many examples about this.

 

[Davian]

Faith is the ability to maintain conviction and trust when fear or temptation tries to breach in.
According to the Testaments, doubt is not an antonym of faith. It rather comes after the fact as a means of reconciliation of fears and temptations.
That is, what the Bible describes as something such as 'intellectualism' is simply a mechanism of denial. The Apostle Paul states that God is self-evident.

Only self-evident to those that believe it is self-evident, to be clear.

 

[Soyeong]

“Faith is nothing less than the will to keep one's mind fixed precisely on what reason has discovered to it.” - Edward Feser.

 

[Davian]

“Reason is a harlot, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.” ― Martin Luther

 

[SkyWriting]

Then, kill himself.
There are many many examples about this.

Of animals killing themselves?
I was not aware.

 

[Winken]

I feel that we are not made to know if we have an afterlife or if Jesus came back from the dead, and if we did know those things there would be little mystery left to creation. We would no longer have faith and Religion would be more like a history lesson or some scientific facts. Instead we find ourselves not knowing these great mysteries and we can hope for Heaven and fear Hell, after all we really do not know for sure if we do have an after life or not.

Maybe it is better to have a belief based on a good argument that makes more sense to you along the lines of Evolution and the Bible is just a collection of stories, but I feel it is better to have hope. It is more authentic to our existence. For thousands of years humans have prayed and believed in the divinity of Jesus Christ or Allah or a different deity, so it is really going against the grain to not have any hope for an after life or belief in a higher power at all. We still have hope!

What you "feel" misses the mark. The "hope" you "feel" is "better" is blind hope. You don't understand the Faith of a born-again Believer in Jesus as Savior, and that for eternity, from the precise split-second of one's confession. Romas 10:8-13 is a great insight into your "feelings."

 

[SkyWriting]

I don't see the comparison. There are demonstrable hazards for those examples that you gave. In what way can you carry that analogy to belief - or disbelief - in gods?

God's Holy Spirit has illustrated hazards, and the show The Doctors will cover fill in the details for you each weekday:

• Lust – to have an intense desire or need: “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:28).
  
  
• Gluttony – excess in eating and drinking: “for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags” (Proverbs 23:21).
  
  
• Greed - excessive or reprehensible acquisitiveness: “Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, with a continual lust for more” (Ephesians 4:19).
  
  
• Laziness – disinclined to activity or exertion: not energetic or vigorous: “The way of the sluggard is blocked with thorns, but the path of the upright is a highway” (Proverbs 15:19).
  
  
• Wrath – strong vengeful anger or indignation: “A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1)
  
  
• Envy – painful or resentful awareness of an advantage enjoyed by another joined with a desire to possess the same advantage: “Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation” (1 Peter 2:1-2).
  
  
• Pride - quality or state of being proud – inordinate self esteem: “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall” (Proverbs 16:18).

 

[Davian]

God's Holy Spirit has illustrated hazards, and the show The Doctors will cover fill in the details for you each weekday:

• Lust – to have an intense desire or need: “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:28).
  
  
• Gluttony – excess in eating and drinking: “for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags” (Proverbs 23:21).
  
  
• Greed - excessive or reprehensible acquisitiveness: “Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, with a continual lust for more” (Ephesians 4:19).
  
  
• Laziness – disinclined to activity or exertion: not energetic or vigorous: “The way of the sluggard is blocked with thorns, but the path of the upright is a highway” (Proverbs 15:19).
  
  
• Wrath – strong vengeful anger or indignation: “A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1)
  
  
• Envy – painful or resentful awareness of an advantage enjoyed by another joined with a desire to possess the same advantage: “Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation” (1 Peter 2:1-2).
  
  
• Pride - quality or state of being proud – inordinate self esteem: “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall” (Proverbs 16:18).

And what has this to do with belief - or disbelief - in gods, when you are unable to demonstrate that they exist?

 

[SkyWriting]

And what has this to do with belief - or disbelief - in gods, when you are unable to demonstrate that they exist?

The list I've gotten from you is less helpful, so God wins.
Beneficial results win over everything else.

 

[juvenissun]

Of animals killing themselves?
I was not aware.

I did not either. We are not animals.

 

[pshun2404]

I get that, but she said she read it intellectually. I wanna know exactly how she absorbed that.

The same way you absorb a text book or a biography...intellectually!

 

[Davian]

The list I've gotten from you is less helpful, so God wins.
Beneficial results win over everything else.

"...God wins"? lol.

Not until you can address my post.

 

[HitchSlap]

The Apostle Paul states that God is self-evident.

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

If all you have is a telescope, an outer planetary rover, a satellite, molecular physics, and relativity, everything still looks like a nail.

 

[HitchSlap]

If all you have is a telescope, an outer planetary rover, a satellite, molecular physics, and relativity, everything still looks like a nail.

Nails explain nothing.

 

[quatona]

If all you have is a telescope, an outer planetary rover, a satellite, molecular physics, and relativity, everything still looks like a nail.

Uh, that rebuttal didn´t go well.

 

[variant]

Beneficial results win over everything else.

What is the benefit to wishful thinking?

 

[GrimKingGrim]

If all you have is a telescope, an outer planetary rover, a satellite, molecular physics, and relativity, everything still looks like a nail.

Hmmm???