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Fahrenheit 9/11

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Well, I found one of the 800 or 900 theatres playing the movie this weekend (it's actually just a block from my apartment). I was amazed that people were lined up for tickets 2 hours before the show started. THey packed the theatre.

The film is an imperfect argument, but makes the points that it does make very well. I am disheartened by the greed displayed; what do people need with all that money?

The film is exactly what one would expect if one is familiar with his other works. My only word of caution: there are some wartime pictures, including a dead baby (maybe 18, 24 months), various quick shots of blood and mangled limbs, and a few shots of the charred corpses of American soldiers. That's probably the only truly objectionable content.

It's defnintely a film everyone'll have a strong, even visceral reaction to, and many here will probably think it's tripe, but I liked it, eventhough it was disturbing and depressing, despite some genuinely humorous moments.
 

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Loki, those charred American "Soldiers" were probably the Blackwater Security Agents that were ambushed and killed by the neanderthals trying to ruin something good over in Iraq right now. A couple of them were SOF, one was a SEAL, another was an ex Delta Force member if I remember correctly. They killed them, and then burned there bodies, and then hung them like rats on an overpass.

Oh and anyone who waste a dime on this movie, is just a big a coward as Moore. In my honest opinion of course.
 
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I suppose he really believes that NORAD and the CIA pulled 9/11, just won't say it?

Let's get real, people- Islam is nothing short of pure evil.... In case we've forgotten..

1) PA 103
2) WTC 1993
2a) TW 800???
3) African Embassy Bombings
3a) Failed plot to destroy LAX
4) USS Cole
5) AA 11
6) AA 77
7) UA 93
8) UA 175
9) WTC Tower 1
10) WTC Tower 2
11) Pentagon
11a) AA 587??? (Crashed in Long Island- not totally sure on flight number)
12) AA 63 (Shoe Bomb)
13) Denpensar, Indonesia
14) Madrid Bombings (3/11)
15) The recent string of decapataitions in Iraq.

15 confirmed murderous acts- 2 suspected, and one foiled. And that's just what I can come up with off the top of my head.
 
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wow everyone here sounds like they are afraid to go see this movie? well maybe you should be more open minded. go see it... tickets are what $10 ? he never even hinted that the CIA pulled off 9/11 ... thats major conspiracy stuff. all he said was that the Bush family and allies benefitted from 9/11 big time... i dont really feel like getting into anything else but... yeah
 
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unjustwar said:
wow everyone here sounds like they are afraid to go see this movie? well maybe you should be more open minded. go see it... tickets are what $10 ? he never even hinted that the CIA pulled off 9/11 ... thats major conspiracy stuff. all he said was that the Bush family and allies benefitted from 9/11 big time... i dont really feel like getting into anything else but... yeah

speaking of open minded, Moore has a team of lawyers ready to pounce on anyone that tries to say he lied about anything in this movie. thing is, he's not lying per se, he's using bits of truth to bring impressions that are not true. Moore hates being compared to O'Reilly and Limbaugh but he's in the same boat just at the other side of the spectrum. Moore puts out his version of the truth spun to entertain those that think like he does. If Moore opened his mind he might be more open to the other side of the story ;)

while i'd like to check out f9/11, i'm not paying to see it, i'll wait til it hits cable or something.

-Fin
 
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Fineous_Reese said:
speaking of open minded, Moore has a team of lawyers ready to pounce on anyone that tries to say he lied about anything in this movie. thing is, he's not lying per se, he's using bits of truth to bring impressions that are not true. Moore hates being compared to O'Reilly and Limbaugh but he's in the same boat just at the other side of the spectrum. Moore puts out his version of the truth spun to entertain those that think like he does. If Moore opened his mind he might be more open to the other side of the story ;)

while i'd like to check out f9/11, i'm not paying to see it, i'll wait til it hits cable or something.

-Fin
im sorry but the other side of the story has been covered for years :)
 
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JC_Cowboy said:
Oh and anyone who waste a dime on this movie, is just a big a coward as Moore. In my honest opinion of course.
What takes more courage?

A)To sit at home and call for a stop to war, but leaving yourself open to an actual attack if the threat is real.
B)To sit at home and call for more war, letting others die for your personal safety while the threat of attack may or may not have been real.

What do you think?
 
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Bradford said:
I suppose he really believes that NORAD and the CIA pulled 9/11, just won't say it?
You would do yourself a favor by finding out what Michael Moore actually says in his films. Then maybe you could actually refute his points.:)
Let's get real, people- Islam is nothing short of pure evil.... In case we've forgotten..
Oh yes, I am sure Jesus would agree with you there.

Need we make a list of the crimes Christians have committed, much less crimes Christians have committed in the name of Christ? It would not be pretty.

My point is, people use both religions for good and for ill. It speaks nothing to these religions' truth or worth.
 
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There are lots of people on here claim lots of things about Michael Moore's credibility and such but few who have seen Fahrenheit 9/11. I disagree with some of his conclusions, but the facts he presents are sometimes startling.

For those who have seen it, what did you think of the part in the beginning where no Senate members would give the signiture needed from those minority Congressmen and women who were trying to extend the investigation into FL 2000. I thought it was disgusting and appaling, and frankly hard to believe. Thoughts?
 
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Uh, there's many straw men going on about the movie. I guess I'm a coward for going to see it. And for sending letters to a very dear friend who was over in Iraq, whose mind was changed aboutthe war, who is one of the most conservative people I know, who voted for Bush in 2000, but swears he'd vote for a communist before he'd re-elect Bush. Go ahead, sit there and accuse anyone who goes and sees it.

The bit with all the Congressmen was disheartening. The entire movie was disheartening, but it reminded me of what I dislike about America, and because of that, I'm going to try to enhance the good of American, and change the bad.
 
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