Extremist rabbis call for return of animal sacrifice

[thereselittleflower]

Why is this surprising? It is part of their religion and they do not accept Jesus as the one and only sacrifice. They did not understand the message of the Temple being destroyed.

Yes,it is about the anti-christ

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Already happened . . . .

Matt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Already happened . . . .

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Ashes of a Red Heifer
According to Numbers 19:1-9, it is necessary to use the sacrificial ashes of a young red cow which has not yet reproduced for ritual cleansing of the Temple.

Until recently, this was considered a serious hurdle to the establishment of a new Temple. There had been some hopes of finding ancient ashes among the Dead Sea Scrolls, but when that no longer seemed likely, representatives of the Temple Institute started looking throughout Europe for pure red cattle. They found that they do exist. There is a breed called the Red Angus, but they were not sure whether or not the existing specimens would be pure enough to qualify.

An American rancher was known to have a herd of these red cattle, which he hoped could be used.

In May of 1997 a shocking announcement was made that a red heifer had been born unexpectedly in Israel! Examination of the animal revealed that, though it was born to parents which were not red, it's features would qualify it to be used in this way when it is of age. In early 1998 a few white hairs developed on its tail, making it no longer acceptable, but there is optimism that a suitable heifer will become available in the near future.

Of course, but this means nothing really, there is no ene times prophecy being fulfilled here as is intimated in the OP.


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[thereselittleflower]

I believe I have explained why these scriptures explain it perfectly.

You have done absolutely no "explaining" whatseover. You are making claims .. not explaining how they are valid.

"logically"? you don't accept that it is logical?

There is no logical connection between the claim, the evidence offered and conclusions drawn.

In other words, there is no PROOF that the claims are true, that the evidence offered is proof of anything claimed, or that the conclusions are justified.

Hebr 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

And what does this have to do with justifying one's claims? Are you saying that your claims are not justifiable by real, solid evidence?

If so, then why should we accept your claims in blind faith, which seems to be what you are suggesting.

This is all I have to say on the matter. I simply wished to share this wonderful news with true believers. It is exciting,you are free to believe what you wish,but I will not debate.

I do not see anything wonderful about it .

I see it as ony aggrevating a situation in the middle east that came about by dispensationalist zionists trying to make their image of the future a reality, to hasten the coming of the Day of the Lord, yet all they have succeeded in doing is create a fire storm that keeps growing . . .


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[soblessed53]

True believers will know what it means,and that is all that matters,I am just sharing with them.

 

[greenjeans]

i never knew that sacrifics were stopped,
this is cool this just means the Lord is coming and it's exciting.

 

[Merciel]

Already happened . . . .

Couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[dad]

Already happened . . . .



Already happened . . . .


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Woah! Where has the antichrist confirmed the covenant, etc?

 

[dad]

I often wonder why they stopped?

how do they remit sin if the old covenant is still in place for them?

God would not permit the blasphemy! He will allow it at the end here for a very short while, to wind things up, but not long. The antichrist will be allowed to stop it! All work for Him.

 

[dad]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/28/israel.animal.ap/index.html
Wow,this is awesome! Can almost hear Jesus' footsteps!

Very interesting, and VERY significant! Thanks for that. When we see the animal sacrifices, I can tell you when Jesus will return, with accuracy down to several months or so!

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Woah! Where has the antichrist confirmed the covenant, etc?

First of all, the antichrist is not necessarily the subject in the passage. It could also be the coming savior... you know... Christ... and the new covenant....

But even so, national Israel was in formal relationship with Rome throughout the latter half of the first century B.C. and through most of the first century A.D. If we take Nero to be the antichrist (666 being a word-puzzle for Neron Kaiser), then, well, ya'know...

 

[dad]

First of all, the antichrist is not necessarily the subject in the passage. It could also be the coming savior... you know... Christ... and the new covenant....

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b. He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week: The coming prince will make a covenant with Israel for the final unit of seven years, completing the seventy weeks prophesied for the Jewish people and Jerusalem.
i. Covenant with many: The word many here is a specific reference to Israel, not a general reference to a group. The ancient Hebrew says, "covenant with the many."
ii. With this covenant Israel will embrace the Antichrist as a political messiah, if not the literal Messiah. Jesus predicted this in John 5:43: I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive."


http://www.studylight.org/com/guz/view.cgi?book=da&chapter=9&verse=27#Da9_27

"Verse 27 indicates that the Antichrist makes a firm covenant for one week, i.e., seven years. At the halfway point, "he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." This confirms many other scriptures that indicate a seven-year period with a key event in the middle that leads to the ultimate destruction of Antichrist. The seven-year period is popularly known as "the tribulation," although it is not referred to as such in Daniel. More likely, the last three and one-half years are the "great tribulation," as indicated in the discussion of chapter 12 below."
http://members.aol.com/claywatts/endoldt.htm#Daniel_9

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In Daniel 11 we have a discourse about the King of the North. When you get to verse 31, it talks about the Antichrist and his partners placing a abomination that makes desolate and stopping the sacrifices. This is absolute proof that the he of Daniel 9:27 is the Antichrist not the real Christ.

Daniel 11:31 (KJV) And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.​

If you're not sure this is the Antichrist, read on what else this man does:

Daniel 11:36 (KJV) And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.​

Christ Speaking Against God?

Is that Jesus Christ speaking against the God of gods? Obviously not. It's the Antichrist exalting himself above all that is called God."


I think that the Antichrist covenant, it's length, and such, is pretty clear.

But even so, national Israel was in formal relationship with Rome throughout the latter half of the first century B.C. and through most of the first century A.D. If we take Nero to be the antichrist (666 being a word-puzzle for Neron Kaiser), then, well, ya'know...

No, I don't know at all what you are talking about. Nero was obviously not THE antichrist, to suggest such a thing is fiddling. He never made all the world get a mark, or set up an image all had to worship, ot fought Jesus and His armies on white horses from the sky, or stopped the animal sacricfices, or etc etc etc. You have to be either kidding, or out to lunch.

 

[Jipsah]

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease

If you'll notice, sacrifice and oblation ceased a couiple of thousand years ago. That prophecy has been fulfilled.

representatives of the Temple Institute started looking throughout Europe for pure red cattle. They found that they do exist. There is a breed called the Red Angus, but they were not sure whether or not the existing specimens would be pure enough to qualify.

The world's infested with red cattle. The thing that's actually holding back the rebuilding of the temple is that almost no one, with the exception of dispensationalist Christians and a few looney-tunes rabbis, wants it rebuilt. If that hurdle is crossed, there's still the problem of a big honkin' mosque run by attitudinal Musselmen sitting on the temple mount.

But Scripture doesn't say anything about the temple being rebuilt yet again (except in the hearts of believers), so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

[Jipsah]

Matt 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:
Matt 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, [even] at the doors.

Yeah, those were some of the verses that Hal Lindsey used to show that the Lord would return in 1987.

 

[Jipsah]

True believers will know what it means

True Believers in Lindseyism?

 

[Jipsah]

Woah! Where has the antichrist confirmed the covenant, etc?

I'll tell you that if you'll tell me how it is that sacrifice and oblation didn't cease 2000-odd years ago.

 

[Jipsah]

No, I don't know at all what you are talking about. Nero was obviously not THE antichrist, to suggest such a thing is fiddling.

That's OK, there's no THE Antichrist in Scripture anyway.

He never made all the world get a mark

Well yeah, he did. You had to have a chit proving that you'd done your obligatory sacrifice to Caesar (he was a "god", don'tcha know) before you could legally buy or sell in the Roman world. Mark of the Beast? Sounds a lot like it, doesn't it?

or set up an image all had to worship

Legionaries made sacrifices to Caesar and their battle standards in the temple. Abomination of Desolation, anyone?

Jesus and His armies on white horses from the sky

That's in Daniel? Hmmmmm... I must've missed it.

stopped the animal sacricfices

So where would I go to sacrifice a lamb these days?

You have to be either kidding, or out to lunch.

Nah, he's just going by what the Bible says rather than what dispensational futurists think the Bible means.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Nero was obviously not THE antichrist

There is no 'the' antichrist. There are people opposed to Christ, and Nero was clearly one of these.

Moreover, 666 is a word puzzle for the Hebrew transliteration of Nero, based on numeric values assigned to letters common throughout antiquity.

n=50, r=200, w=6, n=50, q=100, s=60, r=200 = 666.

Moreover, a textual variant from the western empire reading 616 is the Latin transliteration into Hebrew. Seems pretty clear that at least a few people were thinking this way....

Moreover, the kings of Revelation line up with a Neronic date if you begin the dating from either Julius Caesar or Augustus. "Five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come." Well, [Julius], Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, Nero, the three emperors, and Vespasian. So Revelation was probably written during the reign of Nero (if you date it from Julius), or in A.D. 68, the 'Year of the Four Emperors,' between the reigns of Nero and Vespasian, if you count from Augustus.[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]

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He never made all the world get a mark

Yes he did. Without worshiping his image on the standard Roman coin, you couldn't buy or sell a darned thing.

set up an image all had to worship

It's called the imperial cult. People worshiped the emperors as gods. We have coins detailing Augustus as 'Lord and Savior' and 'Son of God.' People greeted each other 'Hail, Caesar is Lord.' Can you imagine a more confrontation image for early Christianity, that declared Jesus is Lord and Savior, Son of God, and greated each other saying, 'Hail, Jesus is Lord' ?

Moreover, do you know about the imperial standards? They were eagle symbols worshiped as idols carried at the head of the Roman legions. Before the Romans burned down the Jerusalem temple in A.D. 70, they marched into the holy of holies with their standards and worshiped them there. Talk about the abomination that leads to desolation....

ot fought Jesus and His armies on white horses from the sky

You should read some Josephus or Tactitus..... Interesting stuff.

or stopped the animal sacricfices

Actually Nero's local prefects did stop the animal sacrifices, and his armies did stop them by burning down the temple.

You have to be either kidding, or out to lunch.

Actually, I just know history.

You should also look into the holy remnant being preserved from destruction (Rev 11) and Christ's warning that when you see the abomination that leads to desolation, you should flee into the mountains (Mk 13). Well, all the Jewish Christians were saved from the horror that was the destruction of Jerusalem because this faithful remnant of ethnic Israel fled the holy city, travled through the desert, cross the Jordan, and hid in the transjordan mountains at the city of Pella.

 

[dad]

I'll tell you that if you'll tell me how it is that sacrifice and oblation didn't cease 2000-odd years ago.

Not relevant. It is the last days where the antichist stops them. That was not then.

 

[dad]

That's OK, there's no THE Antichrist in Scripture anyway.

The man of sin, son or perdition, little horn, beast, antichrist, king of the north are some of the ways he is referred to. The one that breaks the covenant in the middle of the seven years, makes many get the mark of the beast, sets up the abomination of desolation, as Jesus said, etc etc.

Here, in the same place Daniel mentions that abomination of desolation, that Jesus referred to, it is obvious it is the antichrist being described! We also see him take away the sacrifice.
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Well yeah, he did. You had to have a chit proving that you'd done your obligatory sacrifice to Caesar (he was a "god", don'tcha know) before you could legally buy or sell in the Roman world. Mark of the Beast? Sounds a lot like it, doesn't it?

Not in the least, and in no way is even remotely similar. If you don't know much about the image of the beast, and mark, and where and when, better stick to some other topic.

Legionaries made sacrifices to Caesar and their battle standards in the temple. Abomination of Desolation, anyone?

Well, did they do it 1260 days before Jesus returned to take over the earth? Were they a part of 'all, free and bond, rich and poor' that received the mark of the antichrist? Did Jesus come and take their leader alive, and cast him into the bottomless pit??? Did they have an image of the beast that spoke??

Re 13:15 - And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
That's in Daniel? Hmmmmm... I must've missed it.

So where would I go to sacrifice a lamb these days?
Did seeing it mean we all needed to head to the hills, because the great tribulation had begun???
Mark 13:14-23 14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: 15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Nah, he's just going by what the Bible says rather than what dispensational futurists think the Bible means.

You are talking nonsense is all you are doing.

 

[soblessed53]

Not relevant. It is the last days where the antichist stops them. That was not then.

The man of sin, son or perdition, little horn, beast, antichrist, king of the north are some of the ways he is referred to. The one that breaks the covenant in the middle of the seven years, makes many get the mark of the beast, sets up the abomination of desolation, as Jesus said, etc etc.

Here, in the same place Daniel mentions that abomination of desolation, that Jesus referred to, it is obvious it is the antichrist being described! We also see him take away the sacrifice.
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.




Not in the least, and in no way is even remotely similar. If you don't know much about the image of the beast, and mark, and where and when, better stick to some other topic.

Well, did they do it 1260 days before Jesus returned to take over the earth? Were they a part of 'all, free and bond, rich and poor' that received the mark of the antichrist? Did Jesus come and take their leader alive, and cast him into the bottomless pit??? Did they have an image of the beast that spoke??

Re 13:15 - And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
That's in Daniel? Hmmmmm... I must've missed it.

So where would I go to sacrifice a lamb these days?
Did seeing it mean we all needed to head to the hills, because the great tribulation had begun???
Mark 13:14-23 14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: 15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

You are talking nonsense is all you are doing.

Blessings for posting the truth,brother,even though,of course you are already blessed by "knowing" it. Will Rep you later when I have more Rep points to give out.

 

[dad]

Blessings for posting the truth,brother,even though,of course you are already blessed by "knowing" it. Will Rep you later when I have more Rep points to give out.

God bless you. Cute avatar.