Explaining the God particle

[Gracchus]

Guess I don't have the faith some have.

I would agree with you again. I think your faith is probably ... unique.

No. Hundreds of millions to say the least believe in the Living God.

But not everyone thinks that you are his sole and inerrant prophet.

No one does.

Except you, in your secret heart.

Thankfully.

Deo gratias.

Those that honor God and His word do not seem to be able to or want to dispute my bible case.

According to you, anyone who does dispute with you does not honor god, (as you, his self-appointed representative on Earth present him,) and his word, as you make it up.

You are not able.

I cannot teach a stone to see.

What can you do?

More than you imagine.

 

[dad]

Except you, in your secret heart.

Deo gratias.

According to you, anyone who does dispute with you does not honor god, (as you, his self-appointed representative on Earth present him,) and his word, as you make it up.

I cannot teach a stone to see.

More than you imagine.

I confess. I am right.

 

[toLiJC]

from the viewpoint of the optical, God is absolutely invisible to the humans, because He is the system administrator of all universe and cannot venture to be visible for them, for they are just puppets in His hands, while/because He is their Puppeteer

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.",

1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Blessings

 

[mzungu]

from the viewpoint of the optical, God is absolutely invisible to the humans, because He is the system administrator of all universe and cannot venture to be visible for them, for they are just puppets in His hands, while/because He is their Puppeteer

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.",

1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Blessings

How convenient!

 

[Tiberius]

It was not meant to be proof of anything, merely a kind gentlemanly gesture to some poster that saked for math.

But you didn't produce any mathematical evidence or support, did you? Just spouting some numbers at random doesn't mean it isn't nonsense.

Higgs field. It is nonsense because it cannot apply to the universe, and it is alluded to apply by the creme de la creme of the science world.

Fine. Now kindly support your claim.

Such as?

Such as gravity.

 

[Tiberius]

from the viewpoint of the optical, God is absolutely invisible to the humans, because He is the system administrator of all universe and cannot venture to be visible for them, for they are just puppets in His hands, while/because He is their Puppeteer

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.",

1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Blessings

Fraid not.

And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.

 

[dad]

But you didn't produce any mathematical evidence or support, did you? Just spouting some numbers at random doesn't mean it isn't nonsense.

You get what is asked for.

Fine. Now kindly support your claim.

The far away universe is not known, so we cannot apply any field even if it was real.

Such as gravity.

What about gravity?

 

[Tiberius]

You get what is asked for.

I asked for evidence, you gave me nonsense. I did not get what I asked for.

BTW, you still haven't responded to my claim: (a + b^n)/n = x, therefore same past state!

The far away universe is not known, so we cannot apply any field even if it was real.

Assumption. I asked for evidence, not guesses.

What about gravity?

We see it working on distant galaxies exactly the way we predict it would based on what we observe of gravity on Earth. Therefore the gravity acting on the distant galaxies is identical to the gravity on Earth.

 

[dad]

I asked for evidence, you gave me nonsense. I did not get what I asked for.

BTW, you still haven't responded to my claim: (a + b^n)/n = x, therefore same past state!

What does the a stand for?

Assumption. I asked for evidence, not guesses.

No assumption. Look at all that is known about the far universe.

We see it working on distant galaxies exactly the way we predict it would based on what we observe of gravity on Earth.

Example?

Therefore the gravity acting on the distant galaxies is identical to the gravity on Earth.

We shall see if the first part of your premise can stand. Otherwise all is flushed.

 

[toLiJC]

How convenient!

Fraid not.

it is not about an intimidation, but how is it possible there to be living ensouled beings and they to move if there is no a power that to do it?!, e.g., how the computers would write all those words without the humans who operate(-d) (with) them?!

 

[dad]

it is not about an intimidation, but how is it possible there to be living ensouled beings and they to move if there is no a power that to do it?!, e.g., how the computers would write all those words without the humans who operate(-d) (with) them?!

Good point. Intelligent design requires an intelligent Designer.

Now, on the Higgs field, we see that a field is defined like this

"In physics, a field is a physical quantity that has a value for each point in spacetime.[1..."

Field (physics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To foolishly apply the field then to deep space is impossible. Spacetime is just another way of saying fishbowl..the earth zone space and how time is woven in here.

 

[dad]

Always with your strawman, you one trick pony...

No. Extreme relevance exists in your ability to connect the godless philosophy and beliefs of science with the far universe and time.



Now, on the Higgs field, we see that a field is defined like this

"In physics, a field is a physical quantity that has a value for each point in spacetime.[1..."

Field (physics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To foolishly apply the field then to deep space is impossible. Spacetime is just another way of saying fishbowl..the earth zone space and how time is woven in here.



You are trapped in earth zone spacetime, and the connection doesn't exist to the great beyond after all.

 

[dad]

I think you need to see an optician!

"In physics, a field is a physical quantity that has a value for each point in spacetime.."

Unless deep space were 'physical' and only physical, then, your value sytem does not apply. That relegates the Higgs field somethin fierce.

 

[Tiberius]

Measurable, dad. It means you can measure it and verify it.

 

[dad]

Measurable, dad. It means you can measure it and verify it.

No measure exists for deep space. Just a present state earth zone based measure. In other words..religion.

 

[Tiberius]

Are you kidding? We can look at stuff billions of light years away and see what it does. Let's say it gets brighter, then dimmer, then brighter, then dimmer and so on. We can measure how long it takes for that to happen can't we?

Your nonsense continues, dad.

 

[dad]

Are you kidding? We can look at stuff billions of light years away and see what it does.

No. You can't. You can look at little lights in an unknown space far away and imagine that light, if space were the same would take, as far as we know by our earth laws now, long ages to travel through said space.

Let's say it gets brighter, then dimmer, then brighter, then dimmer and so on. We can measure how long it takes for that to happen can't we?

No. All the lights are going right out soon. Period. All your theories are wrong.

 

[Elendur]

No. All the lights are going right out soon. Period. All your theories are wrong.

How soon?

 

[dad]

How soon?

Just after the time when we see animal sacrifices restored, then taken away in Israel..and the final world leader sets up something in the holy place there in Israel called the abomination of desolation. Then will begin a short time of trouble so great the world never has seen anything like it, nor will it ever again.

 

[Tiberius]

No. You can't. You can look at little lights in an unknown space far away and imagine that light, if space were the same would take, as far as we know by our earth laws now, long ages to travel through said space.

Yes we can. If the laws of the universe were so different there, then we wouldn't be seeing things like doppler shift etc.

No. All the lights are going right out soon. Period. All your theories are wrong.

Care to answer the question?