Explaining the God particle

[dad]

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You could have something.


Joh 12:32 -And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

 

[MichaelSGreen]

It is everything. Einstein was wrong. I hope you find time to really read my writings.

 

[dad]

It is everything. Einstein was wrong. I hope you find time to really read my writings.

I saw your posts. I think I'll stick with Einstein thanks. (at least for the fishbowl).

 

[Tiberius]

I saw your posts. I think I'll stick with Einstein thanks. (at least for the fishbowl).

This is funny. You stick with someone, even though you disagree with the entire basis of his theories.

 

[dad]

This is funny. You stick with someone, even though you disagree with the entire basis of his theories.

Disn't I say relativity was relative...to the fishbowl?

 

[Tiberius]

But it does contradict your oft-repeated claims that the laws of the universe do not operate every where at every time.

 

[dad]

But it does contradict your oft-repeated claims that the laws of the universe do not operate every where at every time.

The fishbowl is not the universe.

 

[Tiberius]

But it extends to every part of the universe that we can see.

 

[dad]

But it extends to every part of the universe that we can see.

Not at all. What you see is IN the fishbowl, remember? You just thought you could apply fishbowl laws far away.

 

[Tiberius]

Not at all. What you see is IN the fishbowl, remember? You just thought you could apply fishbowl laws far away.

And what we see is billions of light years away.

 

[dad]

And what we see is billions of light years away.

Nope. It would take that long IF the whole universe were earth state space. You don't know that.

 

[Tiberius]

Do you have any evidence that things are any different? Something we can examine to see if it is right?

 

[dad]

Do you have any evidence that things are any different? Something we can examine to see if it is right?

Yes...and no...your have too little examining power.

 

[Trogool]

Do you have any evidence that things are any different? Something we can examine to see if it is right?

Yes...and no...your have too little examining power.

And Tiberius has defeated dad yet again.

 

[dad]

And Tiberius has defeated dad yet again.

When science can examine it's way out of a paper bag, call me.

 

[Tiberius]

Well, a scientist inside a paper bag can examine what is on the outside by using a frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum that is not blocked by paper to look straight through it.

Easy.

So yeah, you're defeated. By me. Again.

 

[Tiberius]

Yes...and no...your have too little examining power.

Science has incredible examining power. Your ideas just have nothing to examine.

 

[Elendur]

You can't apply the physical near earth space and laws to the far past, heaven, the future, or probably even deep space. So any math that uses numbers or letters that are supposed to apply there actually don't.

And how do you know that?

If you were on the bottom of a deep lake, and measuring how psi was working, and you made a distance equation (say that a decrease would happen so fast as we headed up) that math would only be good as long as you were still in water!

No, that math would be good wherever you were, the results as well.

 

[dad]

Well, a scientist inside a paper bag can examine what is on the outside by using a frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum that is not blocked by paper to look straight through it.

A wave or particle from far away, that entered our space would be in the form that we measure, in a bag, or elsewhere.

The issue is how far you can see. Being in a bag doesn't help you.

Easy.

So yeah, you're defeated. By me. Again.

Give it up. Your only option is to admit defeat like a man.

 

[dad]

Science has incredible examining power. Your ideas just have nothing to examine.

Examine a spirit and some laws that exist where spirits live?