Explaining the God particle

[dad]

No. It wasn't.

No? Then why keep bringing it up, and not telling us what it is?

That's nonsensical, the definitions are entirely man made and with a purpose in mind. If you decide to include something else in the definition, make another term.

No. Knowledge is bigger than your box.

Yes, like everything else. However the bible would belong in the category of "subjective evidence".

No. More in the category of higher knowledge that the lower gremlins of so called science cannot verify or deny.

My questions. I've been clear all the time.

About what?

Way to avoid the question and shift the burden of proof. Feel free to read my post and answer the question correctly.

No. Ask plainly.

Then present the evidence, you still haven't answered the question.

Get off the high horse and on topic.

There's nothing obvious about what you're writing.

No? What do you think I write?

 

[Tiberius]

Hey, buy a hot dog from a vendor, put whatever dressing you like on it, and convert it all you like. You will not be riding it to the moon. Period.

No. He would probably admit that relativity was relative to the fishbowl and ask for an autograph

You have no understanding of science and you refuse to actually pay attention to what people are saying.

Until you can do these things, how do you expect to participate in a rational discussion?

 

[dad]

You have no understanding of science and you refuse to actually pay attention to what people are saying.

Until you can do these things, how do you expect to participate in a rational discussion?

Show us what you understand about the God particle? Creation? The laws in the past? Anything??

 

[Tiberius]

Show us what you understand about the God particle? Creation? The laws in the past? Anything??

Wake up. I've explained it all many times, and I think it's clear to any sensible person reading the thread that I understand more about the Higgs Boson and science than you do.

 

[dad]

Wake up. I've explained it all many times, and I think it's clear to any sensible person reading the thread that I understand more about the Higgs Boson and science than you do.

You may get the theory...but not the actual field. Want to tell us simply what it is exactly?

 

[Tiberius]

You may get the theory...but not the actual field. Want to tell us simply what it is exactly?

If you are such an expert, you tell us.

 

[sfs]

You may get the theory...but not the actual field. Want to tell us simply what it is exactly?

It's the Higgs field, of course. That is exactly what it is.

 

[Elendur]

No? Then why keep bringing it up, and not telling us what it is?

It was you who brought it up

No. Knowledge is bigger than your box.

What box?

No. More in the category of higher knowledge that the lower gremlins of so called science cannot verify or deny.

Cannot verify. I agree.

About what?

No. Ask plainly.

I have.

Get off the high horse and on topic.

Answer the questions.

No? What do you think I write?

Nonsense. (Yes, nonsense is the answer)



This is the seventh time I'm posting these, I will give you ten tries.

How did you determine that?

(Clarification, "that" refers to you claiming I'm not qualified to discuss rationally)

And could you provide with such records?

Wait, I am unqualified to discuss the term proven because I can't prove anything regarding the past or the future?

 

[dad]

It's the Higgs field, of course. That is exactly what it is.

Creation field for on and near earth physical stuff. You guys don't have a handle on it.

 

[dad]

It was you who brought it up

Can you say why? Or even what it was?

What box?

Present state box.

Cannot verify. I agree.

Good. You have severe limits you admit to. It does not compute for you..

 

[Elendur]

Can you say why? Or even what it was?

Why would I? You were the one who brought it up.

Present state box.

Fine, if you want to be in that box.

Good. You have severe limits you admit to. It does not compute for you.

The only problems is that you have the same limits.



Now answer the questions.

This is the eight time I'm posting these, I will give you ten tries.

How did you determine that?

(Clarification, "that" refers to you claiming I'm not qualified to discuss rationally)

And could you provide with such records?

Wait, I am unqualified to discuss the term proven because I can't prove anything regarding the past or the future?

 

[dad]

It's the Higgs field, of course. That is exactly what it is.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Now need I remind you that it is a quantum field? Do you realize what that means?

"In physics, a field is a physical quantity associated with each point of spacetime.."

Field (physics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Time and space as woven together in the present earth and near earth state. Simply put, 'fishbowl spacetime'!

So then it is one bit of our present fishbowl space and time that is involved in physical stuff. (unless you want to call particles and their masses something else...we can get technical if needed here)

"The Higgs field is a possibly discovered, ubiquitous quantum field supposed to be responsible for giving elementary particles their masses..."

Introduction to the Higgs field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Not exactly world shaking stuff there.

 

[Tiberius]

Does this disappoint you? Does it shatter some illusions? Did you think that something called the God particle would be related to God in some way?

 

[dad]

Does this disappoint you? Does it shatter some illusions? Did you think that something called the God particle would be related to God in some way?

Apparently you failed to comprehend something. Here is the quote again




"In physics, a field is a physical quantity associated with each point of spacetime.."

Field (physics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Time and space as woven together in the present earth and near earth state. Simply put, 'fishbowl spacetime'! [.]
in other words, a different space and time far away or long ago or in the future would not have this field
So then it is one bit of our present fishbowl space and time that is involved in physical stuff. (unless you want to call particles and their masses something else...we can get technical if needed here) [the creation of things other than physical only in this state then, would not involve this field]

"The Higgs field is a possibly discovered, ubiquitous quantum field supposed to be responsible for giving elementary particles their masses..."

Introduction to the Higgs field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Of course the physical only present state fishbowl field we call higgs is related to God. It would be a part of the processes and sequences involved in physical mass and etc.

 

[Criada]

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[Tiberius]

Apparently you failed to comprehend something. Here is the quote again

"In physics, a field is a physical quantity associated with each point of spacetime.."

Field (physics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Time and space as woven together in the present earth and near earth state. Simply put, 'fishbowl spacetime'! [.]
in other words, a different space and time far away or long ago or in the future would not have this field
So then it is one bit of our present fishbowl space and time that is involved in physical stuff. (unless you want to call particles and their masses something else...we can get technical if needed here) [the creation of things other than physical only in this state then, would not involve this field]

"The Higgs field is a possibly discovered, ubiquitous quantum field supposed to be responsible for giving elementary particles their masses..."

Introduction to the Higgs field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Of course the physical only present state fishbowl field we call higgs is related to God. It would be a part of the processes and sequences involved in physical mass and etc.

If you think the fact that there are many different points in space time means that the state of the universe changes throughout time, then you are sadly mistaken, as usual.

Spacetime is a way of describing positions in the universe. Three space dimensions tell us where, and there is a time dimension that tells us when.

It's like you might tell a friend you were meeting for lunch, "I'll meet you at the intersection of 1st street and Avenue J, at the restaurant three floors up. I'll be there at five."

The first dimention (1st Street) tells one dimension. The second (Avenue J) tells the cross street, the second dimension. The height (third floor) is the third and final dimension of space time that we can see. The fourth dimension (five) specifies the time you will be meeting your friend, the "time" portion of space time.

Once again, you jump to completely unsupported and false conclusions in an effort to protect your ideas.

And once again you are wrong.

 

[dad]

If you think the fact that there are many different points in space time means that the state of the universe changes throughout time, then you are sadly mistaken, as usual.

Prove that near earth space time exists anywhere else?

Spacetime is a way of describing positions in the universe. Three space dimensions tell us where, and there is a time dimension that tells us when.

It is a way of looking at the universe using present state coordinates.

The first dimention (1st Street) tells one dimension. The second (Avenue J) tells the cross street, the second dimension. The height (third floor) is the third and final dimension of space time that we can see. The fourth dimension (five) specifies the time you will be meeting your friend, the "time" portion of space time.

There is more to it. The dimensions you refer to are like a ratio of time to space in some ways. The way that we envision our laws applying to space and therefore time.

 

[Tiberius]

Prove that near earth space time exists anywhere else?

The fact that everything we see in the universe behaves as though it is operating in spacetime identical to our own.

Now, your turn. Prove that space time in any other part of the universe operates differently.

It is a way of looking at the universe using present state coordinates.

My goodness. I've heard things that make more sense in a children's sci-fi cartoon show about hamsters.

There is more to it. The dimensions you refer to are like a ratio of time to space in some ways. The way that we envision our laws applying to space and therefore time.

No they aren't.

Dad, please don't try to pretend you know what you are talking about. You don't, and you are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[dad]

The fact that everything we see in the universe behaves as though it is operating in spacetime identical to our own.

Everything you see from your spacetime seems like your spacetime. Wow, big surprise. The question is how would you know?

Now, your turn. Prove that space time in any other part of the universe operates differently.

No need. God talks of things that indicate more than your fishbowl physics are at work.Unless you know better and have proof you are done. God talks of a way that man and woman should be...Obama has other ideas. Who should we believe?

No they aren't.

Dad, please don't try to pretend you know what you are talking about. You don't, and you are just embarrassing yourself.

There is more to it. The dimensions you refer to are like a ratio of time to space in some ways. The way that we envision our laws applying to space and therefore time.


How much time does light take to travel in deep space? How do you know? Distance to a star...how do you know?

 

[AndrewRyan]

Its a particle scientists are looking for that could explain how other particles work. And they think they've spotted it.