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I was just wondering, if any of you knew good sources (outside of the Bible of course!) to exegetics. I know basics of koine greek and classical latin, so original languages are not out of question. Ones you can easily find online or in university libraries would be a bonus. :)
 
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For detailed exegesis, a good commentary is the best resource. There are decent one-volume commentaries, but the commentaries on individual books have enough space to cite the various scholar's opinions. That's helpful, since you may not just want to take the author's opinion. The best commentaries use the original language as the base, though they almost always give an English translation, are can be used by someone who only knows English. Most university libraries will have commentary sections. Buying a full set of commentaries is fairly expensive, though if your interests focus on specific books you could get just a few. If you prefer online reading, the major commentaries are available from Logos and other online programs (though they won't sell individual books for some of the series).

However to do exegesis you need more than the details of the specific passage. You need an overview of what the Bible as a whole, and particularly what that book and author are doing. At a minimum I'd read an introduction to the OT or NT. There are a number of good introductions. Which one to choose depends upon whether you accept or reject current scholarship, and your specific interests. Since inerrancy tends to be an American speciality, I'm going to guess you'd want to use critical scholarship.

The only current NT introduction I know is Ehrman (because I had a student who was interested specifically in the kinds of questions Ehrman deals with well; but it also seems to be the most commonly used in university NT courses). It is available in the Internet Archives, somewhat to my surprise. The problem with it is that it's strong on the historical background of the NT, but not so good on giving a synthesis of work on the historical Jesus, and other things that you really want to do exegesis. Of the books that show up in Amazon, the one by Paul Achtemeier, Joel Green, and Marianne Meye Thompson looks safe. I'd make a different recommendation for someone with conservative views, although the reviews for that book in Amazon point you to the alternatives. It looks like it would be reasonable for someone with no academic background in theology, though it's still a substantial book.

I'd hesitate to recommend any OT intro. I know less about current OT scholarship.

You can also find interesting things online. A source I find particularly useful in the NT Wright page, www.ntwrightpage.com. earlychristianwritings.com has online references for most of the books, but (1) half their links are broken; and (2) the quality is variable. The highest quality things they refer to are by Wallace, but he may be more conservative than you want, though he's a good scholar. bible.org, which houses most of Wallace's online stuff, has a large library of Biblical work, but be aware that they are a moderately conservative source.

If you like classical sources, Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion was intended as an introduction to theology, to give people the background to do exegesis. It is online, as are his commentaries. See ccel.org. (Luther, unfortunately, wasn't as good an exegete, though he was a more creative theologian.) Scholars still refer to Calvin's commentaries, although not for technical issues.
 
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I'd hesitate to recommend any OT intro. I know less about current OT scholarship.

You can also find interesting things online. A source I find particularly useful in the NT Wright page, www.ntwrightpage.com.
for me, the Old Testament equivalent of Tom Wright is John Goldingay. His lecture series on iTunes and the resources on his university web page are excellent. I'm slowly working my way through his "Israel's Gospel".
 
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Look in this post: Catholic Answers Forums - View Single Post - Advanced Scripture Study?

And I would recommend You:
* Theology of the New Testament Volume 2 Salvation History - Revelation, Karl Hermann Schelkle, 1973. Hardcover with dustjacket. About the author: Was born in 1908, held doctorates in both philosophy and theology, occupied the chair of New Testament theology on the Catholic Theological Faculty at the University of Tübingen. Many of his published works have appeared in various languages, including Japanese and Indonesian.
* Our Lady of Holy Saturday Awaiting the Resurrection with Mary and the Disciples, Cardinal Carlo Martini, Revised Edition, 2002, ISBN: 0-7648-0927-X
* Resurrection New Testament Witness and Contemporary Reflection, Pheme Perkins, 1984, ISBN: 0-385-17256-7. Hardcover with dustjacket. About the author: Pheme Perkins - Theology Department - Boston College
* James, Richard Bauckham, 1999. ISBN paperback: 0-415-10369-X. ISBN hardcover: 0-415-10370-3.
* Mt 8-20: Amazon.com: Matthew 8 20 Hermeneia Series (Hermeneia: A Critical & Historical Commentary on the Bible) (9780800660345): Ulrich Luz, James E. Crouch: Books

I might borrow to You the Mt 8-20 volume (because it's expensive), the books on Resurrection, the book by Karl Hermann Schelkle, if You don't feel for buying them Yourself or if they are hard-to-find.
 
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Good answers so far, thanks! :) And Hedrick: I think I'm quite conservative for a Finn my age... And I think most of the current literature I've had to read for the university so far have proved quite useless (like the first book I read stated that easter, pentecost and christmas weren't credible events :doh:). I'm not sure if I believe in what you call biblical unerrancy - there's things I don't take as literally as others (I have some doubts about dating things in history based on the Bible for example) - but I believe that the events described there in essence are literally true and I try not to pick and choose what I want to believe from the Bible. Considering all that I'd appreciate a rather conservative source over a recent one. Well things don't necessarily need to be old, but I'd appreciate them to stick to the classical approach to christianity.
 
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Hey!
I was just wondering, if any of you knew good sources (outside of the Bible of course!) to exegetics. I know basics of koine greek and classical latin, so original languages are not out of question. Ones you can easily find online or in university libraries would be a bonus. :)
Gordon Fee & Douglas Stuart in their publication, How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth (Zondervan 1993), give this basic definition of exegesis:
Exegesis is the careful, systematic study of the Scripture to discover the original, intended meaning. This is basically a historical task. It is the attempt to hear the Word as the original recipients were to have heard it, to find out that was the original intent of the words of the Bible (p. 19).
Since this is the task, I suggest that the good sources for exegesis are:

  1. Grammars, lexicons and word studies of the original languages. Since I'm a graduate of a theological college and seminary, my understanding of NT Greek has been shaped by grammars from my very first, John Wenham, The Elements of New Testament Greek (1965, Cambridge University Press), through to A. T. Robertson's massive grammar of 1,454 pages, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research (1934, Broadman Press). There's a medium level NT grammar by Dana & Mantey that I used when in college.
  2. Arndt & Gingrich lexicon (this is the Bible of Greek lexicons - dictionaries).
  3. For biblical word studies, I use Kittel & Friedrich's 10 vols, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (Eerdmans); Colin Brown, 3 vols, The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology.
  4. I have not mentioned the Hebrew lexicons & word studies.
  5. For historical and cultural background there are various biblical encyclopedias & dictionaries.
I consider Bible commentaries to be secondary. The primary tools for exegesis are tools that assist your knowledge of the original languages, history and culture of the Bible.


I find that too many today are not using the primary sources - knowledge of the original languages of the Bible.


Sincerely, Oz
 
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Good answers so far, thanks! :) And Hedrick: I think I'm quite conservative for a Finn my age... And I think most of the current literature I've had to read for the university so far have proved quite useless (like the first book I read stated that easter, pentecost and christmas weren't credible events :doh:). I'm not sure if I believe in what you call biblical unerrancy - there's things I don't take as literally as others (I have some doubts about dating things in history based on the Bible for example) - but I believe that the events described there in essence are literally true and I try not to pick and choose what I want to believe from the Bible. Considering all that I'd appreciate a rather conservative source over a recent one. Well things don't necessarily need to be old, but I'd appreciate them to stick to the classical approach to christianity.
Aino,

If you are exposed to the sceptics in the university system (as I'm now in studying for a PhD in NT at a university), your faith needs to be strong and I would suggest some conservative apologetics ministries to help you with your defense of the faith. I'm thinking of William Lane Craig (Reasonable Faith Ministries), Ravi Zacharias Ministries, Norman Geisler, etc. I studied for a time under leading apologist., John Warwick Montgomery, but his resources are somewhat dated. I'd highly recommend his book, History and Christianity (Bethany Fellowship).

If you want some defense of the historical reliability of OT & NT, I'd recommend:

  1. Craig Blomberg 1987. The Historical Reliability of the Gospels (Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity Press).
  2. K. A. Kitchen 2003. On the Reliability of the Old Testament. Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
  3. Walter C. Kaiser Jr. 2001. The Old Testament Documents: Are They Reliable & Relevant. Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press.
  4. Australian evangelical scholar who has taught at Macquarie University, Sydney, Dr. Paul Barnett has published these books: 1997. Jesus and the Logic of History. Leicester, England: Apollos.
  5. Paul Barnett 1999. Jesus & the Rise of Early Christianity. Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press.
  6. Paul Barnett 2003. Is the New Testament History? (rev. ed.). Sydney South, Australia: Aquila Press
  7. Paul Barnett 2005. The Birth of Christianity: The First Twenty Years. Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
  8. Paul Barnett 2008. Paul: Missionary of Jesus. Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company.
If you want a read a former student of the demythologiser, Rudolph Bultmann, who published in German in that field and who became a converted evangelical Christian, try:

  1. Eta Linnemann 1990. Historical Criticism of the Bible: Methodology or Ideology. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Book House.
  2. Eta Linnemann 1992. Is There a Synoptic Problem? Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Book House.
  3. Eta Linnemann 2001. Biblical Criticism on Trial. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Kregal Publications.
That should get you started. But you will need to have a strong faith to withstand the scepticism in university religion, theology, NT & OT departments.


Are you aware of some of the resources at bible.org?

In Christ, Oz
 
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Thanks for the advice! I don't have a lot of experience from using the original texts of the Bible yet but even from the things we did in the first Greek course some things opened up much better than ever before! I am planning on doing Hebrew as well, though I've heard it's more difficult. :)

William Lane Craig is one name I've heard of. I'm planning to get to know more of his writings once I just get my actual studies for this academic year done. I've also heard rumorus that he might be attending the apolodetics forum here this year, and if nothing dramatic turns up I'll be there listening to him then as well... We'll see what comes of it, maybe I'll even end up getting one of his books.
 
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What does everyone think? Would it be worthwhile for me to learn Biblical languages just a bit? As it's not about Aino, comment on what You think of my options, in another thread where I've recently written a post about books: http://www.christianforums.com/t7541241-post60122804/#post60122804
I don't have a lot of experience from using the original texts of the Bible yet but even from the things we did in the first Greek course some things opened up much better than ever before! I am planning on doing Hebrew as well, though I've heard it's more difficult. :)
 
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OzPen, there's a thread that I've started, that deals with points 3 & 5: I have Harper's. A bit more adv. dict.? (presupp. a bit of Gk) - Logos Bible Software Forums
Point 3: I have TDNT but so far haven't used it. Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament (3 vols.) could replace that and NIDNTT.
For point 5 I'll use: NIDB, The Encyclopedia of Christianity and A History of Christianity by Paul Johnson:
I suggest that the good sources for exegesis are:
  1. ...
  2. ...
  3. For biblical word studies, I use Kittel & Friedrich's 10 vols, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (Eerdmans); Colin Brown, 3 vols, The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology.
  4. ...
  5. For historical and cultural background there are various biblical encyclopedias & dictionaries.



(If someone is thinking of buying a Logos.com base-package, contact me by PM, let me give the name of a direct sales representative! But give Your decision carefull thought!)

I'm looking for people to discuss with, in for example Helsinki or London. I have a desk-phone line.
 
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EDIT: those of You who want some kind of electronic version cheap while waiting for it to be released in Logos: The New Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible on CD-ROM - Slightly Imperfect, $79.99. Note that while it is digital, it's not actually a Bible Study software, it's just the CD-ROM from the publishers containing it. It works on Windows.

The NIDB is right now on a limited time sale for $79.95 as printed matter + postage. But it's better in Logos, so if You get it as printed matter, I recommend You to get it in Logos too, that's what I'm doing! It's definitely the ultimate reference work, besides being the best Bible dictionary You can look up some Greek words in it plus some theological concepts, so it's well worth the money to have in Logos, a double click in any book in Logos and the entry shows up!:
For point 5 I'll use: NIDB, The Encyclopedia of Christianity and A History of Christianity by Paul Johnson:
5. For historical and cultural background there are various biblical encyclopedias & dictionaries.



The URL to the NIDB in Logos is: New Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible (5 vols.). More people needed to place a "pre-pub" order. That means that You commit to paying it when there are enough people to have it in Logos, You may however cancel the order at any time. When it says "under contract" on Your orders page in Logos, there are enough people and You've helped out and may still cancel it. You are not paying anything until it's actually downloadable, which will be a while from now, maybe years.
Logos is freeware. If You want a minimum setup, go for the Core Datasets!

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Just a reminder, the OP requested sources other than scripture
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I suggest that the good sources for exegesis are:

  1. Grammars, lexicons and word studies of the original languages. Since I'm a graduate of a theological college and seminary, my understanding of NT Greek has been shaped by grammars from my very first, John Wenham, The Elements of New Testament Greek (1965, Cambridge University Press), through to A. T. Robertson's massive grammar of 1,454 pages, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research (1934, Broadman Press). There's a medium level NT grammar by Dana & Mantey that I used when in college.

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www.bluetterbible.com www.bible.org

BLB is an online concordance if you want it. It's only using strongs, but it's pretty fine for free :) Bible. org uses their NET BIBLE, great story read about it, they also provide interlinear study tools, and their site has hundreds of authors who just post position papers and stuff, lesson plans, etc.. from their seminary teaching days.
 
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