Executing a cat for peeing.

[horseluva42792]

I think we all learned a lesson from this: Don't get a pet if you can't handle it.

 

[awashinlove]

If they'd put the cat to sleep for just urinating, that'd be one thing, but according to the article, toward the end there the cat was behaving extremely neurotically as well.

No, according to the author he wasn't neurotic at all. Sure, she labelled him that and according to a ten-year-old child he was unhappy, but I'm not convinced of the diagnosis. The cat was behaving normally (I'd bang against a door if I were locked alone, too!) and the author herself said he was a sociable, pleasant cat.

To the people who are so angry at this author: what would you have done with a cat that was behaving like that, vacillating between howling, hiding, and peeing in inappropriate places - how would you have rehabilitated this cat?

First, we remove as many of the triggers as possible. Pee in the toaster? Why's the toaster out or uncovered? Pee on the area rug? Why on earth do you keep the rug out? Pee on the pillows? Blankets and pillows go in the closet during the day, and the beds get lined with thin tarps. Pee in the tub? ... Uh, I'm failing to see the problem. Yowl at night? Learn a new taste in music or get used to ear plugs. Owners can also try multiple litterboxes placed all over the house. Many people are stunned to find their cat just prefers a different box location.

I do not believe that is pleasing to God and actually borders on idol worship! Totally irrational as well.

This doesn't even make sense. Most of us worship God for the animals, not the animals themselves. Look at the creativity and joy he put into them. Genesis says he made birds for the simple purpose of frolicking in the skies! This is why they deserve respect .. we tear them from the purposes God made them for, the least we can do is offer the best lives possible and realize that away from where they should be they're not always going to conform to our lifestyles.

If folks read AwashInLove's posts about expecting the worst in any adopted pet, then no one with a speck of sense would EVER adopt one! Who wants to be out all that money on vet bills to correct a problem? Or all that unsanitary filth in their bed and around their house! That is disgusting! I think a potentional owner has a right to expect a healthy pet,not some animal that has serious physical or mental problems that actually deem it unfit to be a pet.

Hey, congratulations, you nailed it! People need to stop adopting, because most aren't doing it for keeps. Keeping an animal, in my opinion, should only be in light of necessary rescue efforts. ( Down with breeders. )

It's only filth if you don't clean it, and if you choose not to do that you're spot on - that's disgusting! You have no right to hope that an animal who shouldn't even be in captivity will fit into your fantasy of pet ownership.

Goldie had no physical or mental disorder, I think that's plain.

But no,some people think if you adopt a pet it is like a human instead of an animal and you are stuck with the responsibility for life! I say that is pure nonsense! Some animals will never make a suitable pet due to any number of factors and that most certainly is not the fault nor the responsibility of some adoptive family who comes along later hoping to give it a home!

I second the smiley. Respecting animals is not treating them as humans. Did you even read my whole post before deciding on commenting on the tidbit you did? It's not the FAULT, it's the RESPONSIBILITY of some adoptive family who comes along later hoping to give it a home.

and I hope...that if you do have children, as this author does, that their welfare comes before your pets' welfare...it's easy to devote yourself fulltime to your pets if you don't have children to worry about.

I don't see how this issue has any sort of impact on the welfare of the child, and taking care of a snuggly cat who loves to sing and mark isn't "full time." I was eight when we kept my current cat of eleven years who pees around the house, I don't recall my health in jeapardy - quite the opposite; nor do I recall pining for attention - quite the opposite there, as well. My folks simply taught me that commitment is commitment, accepting responsibility is far from the easy way out, and as keepers of nature we must be respectful (and I thank my Father for parents who taught me these loving lessons).

 

[soblessed53]

In 2 Sam 12 , the prophet Nathan tells King David a story about a poor man's pet lamb to convict David of his sin with Bathsheba.

The poor man nourished the lamb up with his real children, and it ate of his food, drank of his cup, laid in his bosom, and became like a daughter to him. When a rich man killed the lamb, King David decreed that the rich man must not only pay compensation, the Mosaic law penalty, but should also be put to death.

Dogs
Dogs were not kept as pets in Israel, where they were considered unclean, though they were looked on fondly in Egypt..

Unlike Jews, Greeks had pet dogs which were allowed to eat crumbs off the table - cf Mt 15.26, Mk 7.27.

Jesus understood this, and accepted it. Now will you?

OOPS! I do stand corrected there,How could I forget that wonderful story of the lamb? I do not consider the incident of dogs being "allowed" to eat crumbs off the floor ,the same as a cared for and loved pet!

 

[soblessed53]

I also now understand why many folks who would never even consider allowing an animal in the house, view pet-owners as NASTY and would not even consider eating anything they cooked and especially not in their house,because too many really are too fanatically TOLERANT of whatever an animal does in their home. I mean just to think of a child crawling/playing on a "germ-ridden" carpet,that pets have urinated and pooped on,gives me the willies! And the animal hair EVERYWHERE! I am not talking about ALL pet-owners here. Many have more sense than that,but there are also many who give the rest a bad name and image. I also believe that some people are given a "gift" to have a special love for God's creatures,that others do not have. I believe this makes them more concerned, but I still do not feel it is any excuse to tolerate nasty,unhealthy situations. Or putting animals welfare before mankind.

 

[awashinlove]

I mean just to think of a child crawling/playing on a "germ-ridden" carpet,that pets have urinated and pooped on,gives me the willies! And the animal hair EVERYWHERE!

Well if you have the inability to clean you shouldn't have a pet. Most people don't even realize right away that there are animals in my home, especially not the numbers that fosters will often put me, because I am thorough. Why on earth would someone keep carpet with feces and urine on it? That's not just unhealthy for children, but all living things down to plants are harmed. I think those are rare cases, and have nothing to do with this article nor most pet owners.

Kudos to horseluva42792 for getting it.

 

[Dagna]

I mean just to think of a child crawling/playing on a "germ-ridden" carpet,that pets have urinated and pooped on,gives me the willies! And the animal hair EVERYWHERE!

That is gross and just plain unsanitary. Bordering on neglect really, both to children and the pets. Good thing there are vacuum cleaners, paper towels and steam cleaners that are fairly reasonably priced at Target or Walmart. And they work too! Thanks to my new Dyson I have no pet hair to be found anywhere and my steam cleaner keeps my carpets clean and new looking. (and for all you pet owners dealing with animal hair everywhere, the Dyson is awesome and well worth the small fortune it costs)

 

[soblessed53]

Just because you mop-up the urine/feces,does not diminish the GERMS 1-iota,I'm afraid. Carpets will not stand up to being BLEACHED. Carpet shampoo does not kill germs. I'm just saying people have good reason for not believing in animals in the house,and I can understand it perfectly from things I have seen and have also had happen over my lifetime. I also sympathize completely with the family in the OP and my daughter who had to make her cat an outside cat. It was that or get rid of her,because I would not put up with that in my house either. Having my children,friends/relatives children, in that!

 

[Mom to 5]

exactly why I will never get a cat or dog! Too much work! Gerbils are allowed here, but thats it!

 

[ForgivenToo]

I love animals. I have 2 cats. There was a time when one of them had a problem with the litter box, i worked with him, yes. But if the day had come that it was just too much i would have had to find another place for him. Most people don't want an animal that isn't "well behaved" and you can't blame them. You spend thousands of dollars a year on food, litter, toys, vet appointments. You should expect them to behave properly. Most medical conditions animals come up with are expensive to treat, you figure, you get a free cat, feed it love it care for it, then something beyond your control asks you to spend $500 on a urinary tract infection. Why make the animal suffer if it is unhappy? Why make your family suffer if the cat isn't working out and no one wants it? Putting them down is sometimes neccessary, you can't get mad about that.

 

[ForgivenToo]

P.S. All dogs DON'T go to Heaven, animals don't have souls

 

[HeDied4Me]

I think it's another example of irresponsible pet ownership, and does not say much for these folks. Assume the worst before adoption, and if you can't handle it don't follow through.

In theory, it sounds like a good plan.

But consider this: many cat owners, who now treat their cats kindly and give them a good home, would still not be willing to spend thousands of dollars or a huge amount of effort, to keep a difficult cat they'd adopted without knowing its problems. Suppose now that these cat owners followed your advice and decided not to adopt cats at all, because they didn't want to take the (slim) chance of getting one which was too difficult.

Also consider that will always be heartless people who get cats and then just abandon them or turn them in at a shelter for no good reason aside from the fact that they're tired of having a cat. So what happens to all these friendly, easy-to-care-for cats that have been abandoned and need new homes?

...Suddenly, many of the previously mentioned people --who might have been able to provide a great home for a the average friendly and clean cat-- just don't want to adopt anymore, because they're afraid they'll end up with a cat they can't deal with. So now we have thousands --or millions-- of well-behaved cats who need homes, but there aren't enough homes for them anymore, because everyone's suddenly afraid that they'll end up with one they can't deal with, and they know they'll be criticized for not spending thousands of dollars if they end up with a difficult cat.

Voila. Suddenly the problem of homeless cats has just become much worse.

So I'm going to have to strongly disagree with your statement about adoption.

This all leads to a very simple question: are cats better off...

1) being homeless in a shelter, or

2) in a home with owners who love them and treat them kindly, but would have them euthanized if their behavior became too difficult to handle and they couldn't find another home?

For a lot of cats, these are the only two options.

 

[soblessed53]

Amen Sister! Love your Sig as well!

 

[HeDied4Me]

Amen Sister! Love your Sig as well!

Thanks.

 

[soblessed53]

I love animals. I have 2 cats. There was a time when one of them had a problem with the litter box, i worked with him, yes. But if the day had come that it was just too much i would have had to find another place for him. Most people don't want an animal that isn't "well behaved" and you can't blame them. You spend thousands of dollars a year on food, litter, toys, vet appointments. You should expect them to behave properly. Most medical conditions animals come up with are expensive to treat, you figure, you get a free cat, feed it love it care for it, then something beyond your control asks you to spend $500 on a urinary tract infection. Why make the animal suffer if it is unhappy? Why make your family suffer if the cat isn't working out and no one wants it? Putting them down is sometimes neccessary, you can't get mad about that.

So very true! I have seen this situation happen as well,about the "free" pet who suddenly cost a fortune! A free male kitten that my daughter payed to have nuetered then months later he got a blockage from crystals in his urine! Took surgery,then special diet! Lots and lots of money!

 

[aReformedPatriot]

What do you think of this article? It's called, Why I killed my cat



Personally, I think it's ok.

I do too.

I admit I hate cats, though.

 

[soblessed53]

Well if you have the inability to clean you shouldn't have a pet. Most people don't even realize right away that there are animals in my home, especially not the numbers that fosters will often put me, because I am thorough. Why on earth would someone keep carpet with feces and urine on it? That's not just unhealthy for children, but all living things down to plants are harmed. I think those are rare cases, and have nothing to do with this article nor most pet owners.

Kudos to horseluva42792 for getting it.

I'm not stupid enough to be saying the pee and poop IS still sitting there,[even though I have even seen that as well]HOWEVER the germs are! And I know for a fact that you all don't go ripping up and replacing your carpets, even after they have been pooped and peed on NUMEROUS times! And this is ALL pet owners! Well maybe,with the exception of Bill Gate's family if they even have pets.

 

[Dagna]

And I know for a fact that you all don't go ripping up and replacing your carpets, even after they have been pooped and peed on NUMEROUS times! And this is ALL pet owners!

I don't know about other pet owners, but I had mine replaced. Cost me over $800 but I had it done. And I lived in an apartment, so it's not like it was even my own home. I just called my apartment office and told them I needed the carpet replaced and they sent me a bill. They were actually happy that I was responsible enough to call & have it done. They said most people just wait until their lease is up and move. They usually have to send the previous renters to collections to get the money for having to replace carpet. Maybe I'm just wierd though...Luckily my new apartment doesn't have a speck of carpet in it other than area rugs. All concrete and tile.

 

[soblessed53]

I'm sure it wasn't replaced after the "FIRST" incident though,now was it?


I admit that I didn't think of the "germ factor" myself when my kids were small. Thank God we had an outside collie for 17 years,until they were grown,and my husband had outside beagles for rabbit hunting. It was my son who pointed it out when they were all grown and I had a parakeet whose cage door was always left open till night. The bird would play on the floor a lot with a bottle cap and my husband's toes.When my first grandchild came to visit my son said "you know that is gross. That bird plays on the floor and poops on the floor and even though you pick it up with tissue those germs are still there,then the baby comes over and where does she play,on the floor"!

 

[Dagna]

No, why would I do that when it's not hard to pull out a steam cleaner and clean that one spot?

You act like cat urine is going to kill people. Now feces, that's just gross and does contain germs but cat urine generally doesn't contain germs, and it certainly won't make people ill if it's cleaned promptly.

I don't know, I just like animals more than I do people most days. If my cats pee on the carpet, I clean it up. Now human babies, forget it. I wouldn't get near a diaper to save my soul. So to each their own I guess.

 

[awashinlove]

In theory, it sounds like a good plan.

Excuse me?

But consider this: many cat owners, who now treat their cats kindly and give them a good home, would still not be willing to spend thousands of dollars or a huge amount of effort, to keep a difficult cat they'd adopted without knowing its problems. Suppose now that these cat owners followed your advice and decided not to adopt cats at all, because they didn't want to take the (slim) chance of getting one which was too difficult.

First of all, slim? Have you checked the numbers of cats in homes vs. those killed or abandoned? Peeing and singing is not remotely, almost maybe, somewhat sorta slim. That belief is from pet fantasy land. Most cats will act like Goldie at some point. Most. No need to take my word for it, ask any veterinarian who's not working off a pharmaceutical or industry education fund; ask any shelter, rescue, behaviorist, foster family, or rehab center. Cats grow up. Cats pee. Cats sing. People who claim to be "good homes" tearfully drop cats off at my door nearly everyday. I'd say nearly half of all my cats have been dropped off by a family who gave up another cat to my parents years before. I don't consider willing to accept your cat only when he's acting perfect "good." The type of home you describe are exactly the homes that need to stop adopting.

Also consider that will always be heartless people who get cats and then just abandon them or turn them in at a shelter for no good reason aside from the fact that they're tired of having a cat. So what happens to all these friendly, easy-to-care-for cats that have been abandoned and need new homes?

I don't recall implying we're in a perfect world, people who can't accept the animals they take in seem to think we do. Of course the problem of animal abuse will never find it's end until our Lord returns, it's naive to think otherwise. I stated pet ownership should be a rescue effort only for this reason, so that those who truly respect the animals will be the ones who accept them, rather than throw hundreds more kittens into the mix each day. Will it happen? No. But we could seriously dent the breeding industry if the millions of kittens bred each year suddenly found no market.

...Suddenly, many of the previously mentioned people --who might have been able to provide a great home for a the average friendly and clean cat-- just don't want to adopt anymore, because they're afraid they'll end up with a cat they can't deal with.

That's an excellent fear, because if you want an indoor cat you'll most-likely end up with this.

So now we have thousands --or millions-- of well-behaved cats who need homes, but there aren't enough homes for them anymore, because everyone's suddenly afraid that they'll end up with one they can't deal with, and they know they'll be criticized for not spending thousands of dollars if they end up with a difficult cat.

What's the difference? We already have millions of homeless cats, and I can assure you the majority have held onto their natural instincts. Don't you get it, yet? Cats pee! Cats sing! The same cats filing through the system now would be the same ones in the system if people decided beforehand they couldn't handle cleaning responsibilities. The only difference would be that the spirits of these animals would still be intact, and breeders would have no reason to destroy more lives.

Spend thousands? I don't recall ever spending thousands. This woman spent thousands, and the cat was destroyed, anyway. Obviously, you don't need to spend thousands to deal with the same and worse issues, so let's x that. There's nothing wrong with euthanizing a sick animal you can't afford surgery for, so if anyone was going there that's not the issue at hand.

Voila. Suddenly the problem of homeless cats has just become much worse.

No, it stayed the same, because most cats will have some sort of problem and end up in some sort of facility. Those who really love cats but don't want to deal with peeing have the option of adopting an older cat who's already been "tested" in multiple situations, and those that don't leave breeders stunned and cats with fewer scars.

Unfortunately, man's nature is selfish. Though just because the majority of people won't be responsible doesn't mean everyone else under the sun should be able to act the same.

So I'm going to have to strongly disagree with your statement about adoption.

Feel free.

This all leads to a very simple question: are cats better off...

1) being homeless in a shelter, or

2) in a home with owners who love them and treat them kindly, but would have them euthanized if their behavior became too difficult to handle and they couldn't find another home?

For a lot of cats, these are the only two options.

Cats are better off in nature or a rehab/rescue center where they can live as close to nature as possible. But you're right, as a result of lazy ownership what you listed are the only two options for many, and that's exactly what's sad. Though "love them" would be in serious question. Most people who can't tolerate pets love the pet's love, not the pet itself. It's a lose-lose situation for the animal.

I'm not stupid enough to be saying the pee and poop IS still sitting there,[even though I have even seen that]HOWEVER the germs are!

Not if you clean properly. The germs are no worse than what your own feet drag in.

And I know for a fact that you all don't go ripping up and replacing your carpets, even after they have been pooped and peed on NUMEROUS times! And this is ALL pet owners!

No, logic would say the carpets come out and hardwood or tile gets put in. Or, some have gotten lined carpets so the liquid doesn't penetrate the padding.