Executing a cat for peeing.

[soblessed53]

I am truly sorry if I offended you ceedaisy. You are a lady who I have come to respect and admire through your posts the short time I have been here. You said"
And please no comments about the extrodinary extremes some owners go to , to pay for the vet bills and such. We are not to judge others motives. And especially we are not supposed to bring each other down by criticism. Well there has been an unbelievable amount of judging AGAINST this couple to the point that it sounds like a witch-hunt! And no one has the right to say they should have gone to every extreme. financial or otherwise to save this cat after 4 years of putting up with it either. so maybe they didn't think of everything,we all have 20/20 hindsight. I still think they did try. I am sure the man was exaggerating when he talked about soaked carpets,and just meant often peed on.
I cannot however, abide any person who says things like they prefer anmals over people,because it does not take a rocket scientist to KNOW what Jesus will say to such an anti-social human being, who places more value on an animal than a human being! And some people ARE fanatics who love their animals more than God or anyone! That is idol worship. Anything we put above God is.


And people can spend what they want to on animals,but when they start having to borrow from family, or going into debt, or taking away from the kids to do it, forget that,cause I will tell them off! God gave us brains to use.

 

[ceedaisy]

You are very right indeed SoBlessed! Judgement against them has been harsh and that is what I meant. And I think I did say that at the beginning of my post and then said we cannot judge anothers motive for we do not know their heart. I myself cannot totally judge them. I can only go by what has been written. They may have tried everything that has been posted already. I would hope they were smart enough to shut off the bedrooms so the cat couldn't have had access.

And again you are right that some do love the animals more than God. Maybe they are not Christians? Maybe some are. I haven't met any yet who act that way thank goodness. And I know that isn't the case in my household. However, Jake and Biddy are considered family members, not equal to my child though, but still very important. My sweet little fur babies never asked to be born, so now I have adopted them and gave them a home where they are loved and kept safe. Since you, SoBlessed, and I have talked, you know I'm behind adopting shelter animals 100% and has been the only way I will go about it. Blessedly we have not had any behavior problems with them. Just a few things with Jake, but they are easily fixed. Like getting in the trash can (we put the lid on it), grabbing Max's toys (I use the squirt bottle and he is learning real quick now), and having anxiety when we leave him (so I put him in the Kennel and he stays calm and goes to sleep).

Watching the Humane Society show on Animal Planet does bring to light that a lot of people live in filthy situations regarding animal waste. I have only seen them with older people and a lot of the time single. And the social workers say it is a mental thing. These people will take any stray off the street and keep them in their house. Living conditions get to be horrid and the stench so bad neighbors start complaining. These people think they are doing a good thing by giving these animals a home when actually they are participating in imbreeding and diseases. They don't want to take the animals to a shelter because they think they will be put to sleep. And sometimes they are if the animal has a vicious temperment. These poor folks think they are helping, but really are not. I guess this would be where their heart meant well. And what about those people who do not like people and only animals? Some of them could have had a bad childhood. Who knows? My father did and it is ingrained into his personality. Even though we cannot blame our actions as an adult for what happened in childhood, some people have just been nurtured or is natured that way. Doesn't make it right, but I'm sure Jesus will be able to sort out it. Thank goodness, because if left up to some of us a lot of people probably wouldn't ever get a glimpse of Heaven!

Thank you for the compliment SoBlessed. It means a lot to me. And I admire your spunk and spitfire! You stand up for what you believe in and charge like a bull. LOL I will have you on my side any day!

 

[soblessed53]

Aww thank you dear lady,and I am so happy that you know how to read me and understand where I am coming from. Yes, I do try to say what I mean,but sometimes I am too blunt and really don't think how it may sound to others,and then I have to apologize for that.I hope I can overcome that part of my nature.

I do understand people loving their pets and I think the best Are the one that are made part of the family,they seem to develop the most personality. We spent a lot of time with our outside collie and as we had a fenced in yard she came in a lot too and we would just open the door to let her back out,she had a nice doghouse,but I know she would have had more personality if she had been an inside dog,however I never planned her. I lived in an apt.when a neighbor found her abandoned about 7 months old the vet said,[when I took her for shots] at a rental property of hers. We had a fenced yard and enclosed porch there, so I took her and she was just always an outside dog. then we moved to our first home and lived there 13 years. Later after she had a stroke at 17 and had to be put down. We had a little black mixed breed, raised in the house and totally different more involved, and extremely smart. Oh that was after a wonderful boxer that unfortunately died at a young age as they tend to do.

But now I have known people who had small dogs in the house that I knew were using the bathroom in the house and it grossed me out,same with cats,and I know if I could not get an animal housebroken it would not be welcome in my house because I will not stand for that filth.I do understand if it went to a shelter there is about a 99% chance that next owners would not put up with that either,till eventually it would be dumped or put down. So I do believe it was going to happen to Goldie anyway,I mean unless they advertised "free cat refuses to be housebroken,yowls and pees on daughter's pillow and in the bathtub,looking for home with animal fanatic who is desperate to save it from death,LOL! "I really doubt if they would get any takers!

But they were honest enough to relate their story on a problem cat and they have been vilified for the decision they made to have it put down. I admire them for keeping it as long as they did and not just shooting it, as many men I know would have done,possibly even my own husband! He most certainly would not have spent that kind of money on it when you can't drive 4 miles in any direction without seeing I don't know how many signs for free kittens. I mean seriously,how many men are going to be replacing carpet they have to pay for because of a nutso cat! BTW how many divorces are over animal lovers having a spouse who DOES NOT SHARE their feelings?

His mother,my wonderful mom-in-law believed it was an absolute sin, the way some people spend money on animals. maybe that is because she was always poor,but she always fed cats that were dumped off on her. She didn't have the money for fancy brand name cat food,but she did buy cheap brands like 9 Lives and gave them any meat scraps, and she never paid for vet care. She let nature take it's course and they were never allowed in the house,they slept under it,but she had one female 16 years I believe it was, and a Tom about 20 years. Many of their kittens died, were killed on the road, or by foxes, ect.but she could not worry herself sick over something she could not control or change. That was her view of life. She just did the best she could as her beliefs allowed and I believe she is going to recieve a reward for her heart. But I am sure many of these here would vilify her as well. But I guess how you are raised affects your beliefs as well.

 

[PorcelainHeart]

I don't love animals more then humans, I just have been treated like crap by people and judged by them so it's hard for me to love them. I know I'm anti-social but that is because I was rejected by my peers because I am different. I had to deal with being called ugly, stupid and retarded my whole life, I'm sorry if that makes me like humans less. I just never met any who want to treat me like an equal. I do have a love for animals, because they aren't the ones calling me these awful bad names and making me cry. I'm sorry if I come off anti-social, I'm just trying to love humans, it's hard when none have shown me kindness.

I want to love humans, I just don't want to be rejected and hated by them like I always been.

 

[ceedaisy]

SoBlessed~I couldn't live with the non-housebroke pet either. I have had to find a new home for one cat because she did not like living with another cat. She always tried to be alpha. A couple of years ago I had an outside cat. Showed up on our door step one day. We live in the country so you know how that is. She was all black and we named her Spook. We built a cat box for her outside and had it on the porch. I kept towels in it and fed her dry food that I also kept in her box. She was sick with a cold, but we couldn't afford vet bills. So we had to let nature take its course. But we did our best to give her love and feed her. I still have no idea where she came from, but she followed us everywhere. Now she is gone. I always had outside cats growing up. They were my best friends!

Marmaladegirl~I used to be ridiculed all the time also and it still haunts me. I usually feel stepped on and left out. And working at a little pizza place I have to deal with customers and some of them are so hateful. It is real easy to get fed up with the general populace. I just try to bite my tongue and smile because that is what Jesus would do. It is awful the way people act. Like at Walmart and they run over you, and don't say excuse me or anything. I really am fed up and can't stand how most everyone is so selfish and self involved that they can't even look up and say excuse me or sorry. Generally I would probably say I like animals more, because they can be loving and so forgiving compared to the general public. But if we get on an individual basis, there are good people out there who are kind and take the time for a smile or kind word. This is when I like people more. I have one guy customer who comes in and will remark about my chest! Can you believe that? So yeah some people are really stinky! Sending you more hugs Marma!

 

[soblessed53]

That was very sad to read Marmaladegirl22,and I am sorry to hear how you have been treated. People can be very cruel and especially children can be pure monsters. As I said, the way you are raised can affect your beliefs,and your story certainly explains WHY you feel the way you do.I can understand that,however I do not think under the circumstances that you can be objective in a situation such as this either. I believe you will always take the animal's side no matter how defective it is ,and dislike anyone who puts such an animal down because you cannot accept rejection,so you see rejection of an animal as inexcusable as well. I was born with a very small amount of muscle bulk so I had extremely skinny legs and arms all my life and in school I was always skinny bones and heard skinny jokes,yet it did not turn me against all people,only mean,cruel people. I know there is a difference. I learned early that to have a friend I have to be a friend. I am not an initiator. I do not make the first move in aproaching someone, or in conversation either,however a friendly comment is an open door to me! I pray that you will take all your hurt to Jesus and leave it at His feet and be freed. I hope you have a Blessed day.

 

[soblessed53]

Ceedaisy it is so refreshing to hear from someone I feel is "rational "about an animal's place in our lives,LOL! Someone who doesn't think if you bring a pet into your life,it is a "blood oath "until the day it dies! I have found new homes for several pets that did not work for my family.When we moved to the country 7 years before my husband passed away, I tried a couple dogs that did not work out,and I honestly put in the ads what they needed, a fenced yard for one, and adolescent kids for another to work off it's energy. I found I believe perfectly matched homes for them,judging by the calls I recieved from the new owners.

They are animals,not human children,not born of my blood & body, and I refuse to go through hell because we are a mismatch,but I will try my utmost to find their match. That is just too much to spend financially and emotionally on one that is not working,when there are a million others to choose from that also need a home.

I know my husband had to have been very thankful that I would not keep these misfits either, as it was all money he worked for to care for them,as I was never employed. Plus the fact that he had to live with my choices as well. My family being able to enjoy our home would come before any animal's enjoyment of it,that's for sure. Animals have their place.

I will never down anyone who does not believe in dogs or cats in the house either, or spending money on vet bills for them,yet they feed strays who are dumped on them, that they did not ask for or even want.

 

[VickiY]

I notice that all the pet owners who condemn people for not spending thousands on their pets have not suggested the best (to my way of thinking) solution to this, which would be to purchase pet health insurance. Perhaps then second opinions would be sought for the animals if their behaviour changed. Perhaps then people would not suffer extreme financial hardship caring for pets they have loved and believe they must care for as they would care for a child. Perhaps then people would not resent the animal for the inconvenience that its illness caused. See link below:

http://www.petinsurance.com/coverage/?a=A802A1A3-802A-21FD-A0B0BFAD45B726F5&b=A802A1B2-802A-21FD-A16658EC5032FF69&c=A802A1C2-802A-21FD-AF952424539B38C7

There are pet psychologists, as well, I understand.

I'm not an animal person, by which I mean that I like animals, but do not care to have to take them for walks, remove enough fur to carpet Australia from my furniture, and stay home all the time in case they have an accident that I do not wish to have soak into my floorboards by the time I return to deal with it.

Therefore, I do not have animals. I know my limitations, and the degree of germiness associated with most animals is more than I care for.

However, I think that if people who choose to adopt animals got an insurance policy for them, it would mean better care for the animal and less tension for the family paying the bills, which would in turn provide a more soothing environment for an animal that is stressed by illness or other factors.

Just my two cents

 

[PookySmiley]

What do you think of this article? It's called, Why I killed my cat



Personally, I think it's ok.

I agree.

 

[PorcelainHeart]

I have had bad experience with pets, I had a little white dog who just couldn't be good, he even bit me, we had to get rid of him because he was so out of control. He also was mean to my little Cairn Terrier.

I know animals aren't of my blood, but I still love them. To tell you the truth some animals are better then the people of my blood. Half my family is selfish, cruel and crazy. My dad and sister would do anything to upset me. My dad also hopes I lose my dog and house.

I know most people think I'm crazy because my strong love for my animals, I was taught by my shrink and my mom that if you treat animals with kindness you are kind. My shrink said I was a wonderful person because I loved animals. She said it hurts her how some people treat animals less. So she controls some of my thoughts on animals. I just get upset and hurt when people don't see eye to eye with me. I suppose I need to change that. ]


If people don't love animals they shouldn't have one, why even get one if you will treat it less?

 

[soblessed53]

Very wise,but pet insurance is not inexpensive,and too many Americans are not even covered by health insurance these days! For those few who can afford it,it may be an option. I'm sorry but I put pet psychologists on a par with pet pyschics! Just more who see "a sucker born every minute",out to get your money.


I feel the same as you about pet ownership anymore. No longer appeals to me,and as a widow so single,I have come to glory in my complete freedom.

 

[ceedaisy]

I tried a couple dogs that did not work out,and I honestly put in the ads what they needed, a fenced yard for one, and adolescent kids for another to work off it's energy. I found I believe perfectly matched homes for them,judging by the calls I recieved from the new owners.

Giving pets a perfectly matched home is why I love to use the Humane Society in the next town. They take any information they can and write it down and put it on the kennel of the dog or cat. That is why I love Breed specific rescues because they are so cautious of whom they adopt the dog out too. And making sure you have all the requirements that fits the needs of the dog. Such as if fencing is required, if there is a cat, young child, another dog, and so on and so forth.

That is why my opinion on the article is to give the cat to a shelter and maybe they can find the proper home. If there is something wrong with the cat they would be able to tell (hopefully) and decide if it is adoptable or not. Sometimes just a change in environment works. I would not have it put down unless of health concerns or bad temperment. OR had it fixed and let it go outside and build shelter for it. I couldn't kill it. God still created the animal. I hate killing animals. I'm so bad that when it rains I keep an eye on the road to make sure I don't run over poor froggies (traffic permitting, but we are in the country) and in the fall I try not to run over the wooly worms. Poor guys. And one time I saved a huge turtle that was in the road sunbathing by my inlaws house. A truck driving was coming down the road and I alerted him to the turtle so he could go around. I'm just a supporter of life, human or animal.

Pet insurance is a good idea, if it can be afforded. If I had the extra money, I would probably look into it. But money shouldn't be my hubby's or my problem with Jake or Biddy. We took David Ramsey's Financial class and learned about saving and emergeny accounts. In fact he teaches that after you get yourself set and out of debt completely, you won't need life insurance either. All that money you put toward paying someone for a just in case emergency can be going into your own savings account and building a whole lot more interest. And it isn't lost money. It will always be there. When possible I hope to start my own pet fund for emergencies. And I thought that was funny about a fur carpet to cover Australia! Good one!

 

[soblessed53]

"Giving pets a perfectly matched home is why I love to use the Humane Society in the next town. They take any information they can and write it down and put it on the kennel of the dog or cat. That is why I love Breed specific rescues because they are so cautious of whom they adopt the dog out too. And making sure you have all the requirements that fits the needs of the dog. Such as if fencing is required, if there is a cat, young child, another dog, and so on and so forth. "



Wow,wish our shelter was like this,but it is not at all,unless someone leaves an animal with them and have given them their history, and it takes a lot of money or they will never take any in voluntarily,I have been there after just exiting the room of cat or dog cages and seeing many empty ones, heard them lie to callers on the phone that they have no space to take any! No wonder so many people tie them or dump them off there. They don't know diddly about the animals they have up for adoption,and they will not take them back if they don't work out either,you have to PAY them to take them back!


The breed specific rescues sound the best,except for the fear of genetic defects that could cost a fortune in vet bills, and the emotional toll,because of all the problems inbreeding purebreds has caused.
I just feel getting a normal,healthy,well-adjusted pet is too much of a crap-shoot,and I am no gambler at all. The odds are just too low,for my liking,so I will probably never have a pet again.

 

[PorcelainHeart]

Most shelters in Houston are overcrowded, half of them are also very strict. We had to sign tons of papers for our doggy. We also had to promise to keep him inside and give him the proper food. He is the best dog we ever had, he hasn't messed up once. Most people get pets just to have one and are horrible owners and give them up after 3 days, I don't blame the rescues for being strict.

 

[ceedaisy]

Wow SoBlessed, I can't believe they would lie to callers like that. That just really grates on my nerves as I type. What the heck are they there for then? RRRrrrr

And I don't think the odds are that bad in getting a healthy animal. Maybe it is our geographical locations? Hmmm I haven't seen anyone have lots of trouble medically with their purebreds. Problems have arose from the pet being old, but heck we all go through that huh? Poor critters. Look up the worlds ugliest dog! It won three years in a row. It is a Chinese Crested Chihuahua. And he is so old. He has quite a few problems if I remember correctly. She carries him everywhere too, I believe. Ageing is NO fun!

Marma girl~ I'm very happy to hear what your local humane society does! Ours in my town and in the next town are strict also. Making sure the animals is kept indoors, never chained up, and you also agree to surprise home visits. I have never had one though. But in the even they hear of you mistreating the animal they have the right to take it away. Also if you find you cannot keep the pet any longer you MUST return the animal back to them and no one else. They keep a history of your past pets and if you don't have them anymore they want to know why. And also they call the vet to make sure you keep up with shots and such with current or previous pets. Humane Society does a lot of work and the workers should be applauded. Well for the Humane Societies who has a good Director and does all they can do to get out and be recognized and speak for the homeless animals!

 

[soblessed53]

I know! My daughter got a kitten one day,the one she still has and I forget the other time,but it has happened twice! Once i got a pup that showed signs of distemper the next day and my husband called them and was actually told "well he's your problem now"! That was many years ago and this is a different shelter,but I still get furious everytime I think of them lying that they cannot accept any animals. What do they think happens to those they refuse?

Unfortunately I know of many boxers that have died young from the lady who turned me on to boxers and I know she is a wonderful owner and has had many over 20 years and I lost mine when she was about 6,that is about all they last. I have seen many,many crippled large breeds dragging their rears from Hip displasia,collies have eye problems. If you know many people with purebreds you find out most have vet bills with their pets because of congenital defects. I used to know quite a few owners but not many now. Most people I know know either have none or they choose mutts.
One of my daughters has a registered dachund that is a disgrace to her breed! Clown of the dog world? Not her she could be a rock for all the personality she has,dumb as possible too. Is spayed yet has false heats. Just no quality in any way.

I would love to have a shelter that is so careful, but have never heard of any around my area like that. Guess Ohio is a bad state for shelters.


Hope your day is blessed.BTW your new avatar is Beautiful

 

[Nook29]

I think what those people did to that cat was unfair, and to be honest, quite upsetting.

The cat needed training, you don't just put a litter tray out, say to it, 'Do it there!', and it'll do as it's told. They obviously hadn't got the cat used to it's litter tray, nor to it's surroundings. And even if the cat still peed everywhere, is that a reason to put it down? Babies aren't trained for a long time, yet you don't see people putting them down do you?

I know babies and cats are two different things entirely, but it doesn't change the fact that this is wrong.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

I think it is irresponsible pet ownership, and I think that it sends the daughter the wrong message. And I'm a dog person BTW

Diane