Exaggeration

[Ajax 777]

Couple of quick questions...

Did the Pharisees actually swallow camels?

Did Jesus want us to literally eat His flesh and drink His blood?

Beware being so full of words that you completely miss the Word.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Couple of quick questions...

Did the Pharisees actually swallow camels?

Did Jesus want us to literally eat His flesh and drink His blood?

Beware being so full of words that you completely miss the Word.

No the question is can the Pharisees swallow a camel? No.

 

[Ajax 777]

No the question is can the Pharisees swallow a camel? No.

And yet, according to the Lord Yeshua,
by practice they did. But you are also right in saying they could not,
because everyone knows no man can swallow a camel.

So by your response, then, you acknowledge that our Lord
sometimes spoke allegorically to reveal to our naturally unteachable
minds a deeper truth.

A painting can resemble an actual place almost perfectly,
but it is still only an illustration. The image points to the reality,
but by itself is merely an image.

I think the fact of this thread is people are using words to obscure meaning.
This sort of thing is a snare into which we have been warned not to fall.
All the same, as with my food, if for the sake of my brother for whom Christ also died,
I should need to speak differently so as not to give offense, let my words
be carefully chosen according to his needs.

I am to come dead last, not first.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

And yet, according to the Lord Yeshua,
by practice they did. But you are also right in saying they could not,
because everyone knows no man can swallow a camel.

So by your response, then, you acknowledge that our Lord
sometimes spoke allegorically to reveal to our naturally unteachable
minds a deeper truth.

A painting can resemble an actual place almost perfectly,
but it is still only an illustration. The image points to the reality,
but by itself is merely an image.

I think the fact of this thread is people are using words to obscure meaning.
This sort of thing is a snare into which we have been warned not to fall.
All the same, as with my food, if for the sake of my brother for whom Christ also died,
I should need to speak differently so as not to give offense, let my words
be carefully chosen according to his needs.

I am to come dead last, not first.

I have no problem with a descriptive conversation. I have issue when anything Christ says can not be taken as a literal truth. Why would God need to exaggerate.

 

[JimB]

“Fairy Tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist,
but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.”
~G.K. Chesterton​

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[Faulty]

I have no problem with a descriptive conversation. I have issue when anything Christ says can not be taken as a literal truth. Why would God need to exaggerate.

Why would God need to do anything? That's not a reason.

God spoke in parables to hide the truth from some. They were truth, but not literal, but still truth, and from the lips of Jesus. I think you are trying hard to maintain some unsupportable, and quite unnecessary, standard in your mind.

 

[JimB]

Why would God need to do anything? That's not a reason.

God spoke in parables to hide the truth from some. They were truth, but not literal, but still truth, and from the lips of Jesus. I think you are trying hard to maintain some unsupportable, and quite unnecessary, standard in your mind.

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[toolmanjantzi]

Why would God need to do anything? That's not a reason.

God spoke in parables to hide the truth from some. They were truth, but not literal, but still truth, and from the lips of Jesus. I think you are trying hard to maintain some unsupportable, and quite unnecessary, standard in your mind.

I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: (Psalms 78:2 KJV)

Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel; (Ezekiel 17:2 KJV)

The Bible says: a parable is a riddle not a story. It also states the sayings are of old, meaning it comes from a known truth.

 

[jamadan]

But the entire point of this thread was because Jim was convicted and crying over someone accusing him of exaggeration . . . since no one would mistake parables and stories for exaggeration, most of these points are well, off-point. The real question is, what did Jim say that triggered this whole thing and is it genuine exaggeration that is really lying.

 

[JimB]

But the entire point of this thread was because Jim was convicted and crying over someone accusing him of exaggeration . . . since no one would mistake parables and stories for exaggeration, most of these points are well, off-point. The real question is, what did Jim say that triggered this whole thing and is it genuine exaggeration that is really lying.

Jammer, Have you lost the argument already? You have lapsed into personal attacks. The "real question" is (and I quote):

"Question: is exaggeration (i.e., hyperbole, overstatement, embellishment) proper or is it sinful? What does scripture say?”

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I thought the OP made that clear. If we could just keep on topic that would be nice.

 

[probinson]

Jammer, Have you lost the argument already? You have lapsed into personal attacks. The "real question" is (and I quote):

"Question: is exaggeration (i.e., hyperbole, overstatement, embellishment) proper or is it sinful? What does scripture say?”
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And the answer to this question is, as most of the responses have shown, it depends. Exaggeration can be a lie, or it can be a perfectly acceptable figure of speech.

"I was told that I shouldn’t use exaggeration in my sermons and that I needed to be more exact in my statements." is what you said in the OP, but without knowing the specifics, it's impossible to say whether the person that said this to you was justified or not.