"Ex-Christians"

Proud Hindu · Dec 13, 2004

jlujan69 said:
Are you responding to my OP or someone else's post?

Oh, sorry, I was referring to CrownCaster, not you

Isis-Astoroth · Dec 13, 2004

I don't have time to read all this thread now, but I was a christian, by choice and by faith, but found a path that was better for me. I 'deconverted'.

Lokisdottir · Dec 13, 2004

On an unrelated note, why do people keep calling me 'he'? :/

Fuzzy · Dec 13, 2004

Because you keep outbelching everyone at the Blot.

Lokisdottir · Dec 13, 2004

Fuzzy said:
Because you keep outbelching everyone at the Blot.

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, brother!

Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win · Dec 13, 2004

I don't know why but "Lokisdottir" sounds like a male while "Crispie" sounds like a female!

Has anyone felt that?

Zen_Woof · Dec 13, 2004

Greetings.

A quick question ... if an infant is baptized, receives first communion, and then is confirmed as a Catholic christian by the age of 15, is he or she then a convert to Christianity? If yes, then I officially deconverted ...

Metta,
Jacqui

Ryal Kane · Dec 13, 2004

The 'he deconverted so was never a real christian' argument is known as the True Scotsman fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

S Walch · Dec 13, 2004

Zen_Woof said:
Greetings.

A quick question ... if an infant is baptized, receives first communion, and then is confirmed as a Catholic christian by the age of 15, is he or she then a convert to Christianity? If yes, then I officially deconverted ...

Metta,
Jacqui

Nope - just going to church doesn't make you a christian.

jlujan69 · Dec 13, 2004

Lokisdottir said:
No, that never happened to me. The question remaining is, why not? Why does this happen for some people and not for others?

The hard answer for that is that God knows the heart and if the person is really seeking Him. It's a discouraging thought that you seek Him with all your mind but your heart is not really in it, but you think it is. Not to cause any more confusion, but the Bible says that the "human heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?" Perhaps it may help to ask God to show you the real condition of your heart and to show you that you really do need Him. He does promise that all who seek Him with their hearts, will find Him.

tulc · Dec 13, 2004

On an unrelated note, why do people keep calling me 'he'? :/

Because they don't take the time to sound your name out? LOKISDOTTIR
Maybe because when someone thinks of Asartu they think of big guys with a beard?
tulc(who usually looks for peoples male/female symbol) :o

The Seeker · Dec 13, 2004

S Walch said:
Nope - just going to church doesn't make you a christian.

He didn't just go to church

A quick question ... if an infant is baptized, receives first communion, and then is confirmed as a Catholic christian by the age of 15, is he or she then a convert to Christianity? If yes, then I officially deconverted ...

Being confirmed as a Catholic requries an active choice. Its not just "going to church"

The Seeker · Dec 13, 2004

tulc said:
Because they don't take the time to sound your name out? LOKISDOTTIR

Oooh

Lokisdottir · Dec 13, 2004

tulc said:
Maybe because when someone thinks of Asartu they think of big guys with a beard?

And pointy helmets!

flicka · Dec 13, 2004

From my experience the only thing that makes someone a real Christian is their belief that they are. I realize there are some folks that demand the proof of salvation (IE: tears of repentance, an emo moment in church, speaking tongues, etc.) but for the majority of Christians that isn't necessary. It's your word against..well, nobody. If you say your a Christian I believe you because there is no hand stamp or membership card issued by god. Sometimes people stop believing it making them 'ex Christians'. I suppose you could replace the word 'Christian' with any faith and it would work just the same.

gaijin178 · Dec 13, 2004

I guess that I can call myself an ex-Christian. I believed it like nothing else. You could have told me that the sky was blue because of the light that was refracted by the sun and I could say something like, no it isn't, God wanted it blue so he made it that way. I truly with all of my heart believed. And when I slowly, "deconverted" it was a very painful thing for me. I think that a lot of Christians look at people who deconverted and just think that they woke up one day and decided not to believe anymore. This is rarely the case. My process was very long and very painful. I felt like I was lied to. I was really hurt when I learned that I wasn't on the right path and that I had ruined so many relationships, including mine with my family because of it. So that idea that I was never a true Christian is a complete lack of understanding. It has taken me about 7 years or so to even be comfortable with the idea of Christianity and speaking with Christians in general about their faith.

thirsty · Dec 13, 2004

Lokisdottir said:
Apparently, you're so determined not to show any sort of respect that you won't even capitalize the names of other people's Gods. The only point I see made is that you don't know how to use proper nouns.

I could do the same with the names of God and Jesus just to spite you, but that pesky respect thing gets in my way. I just have to remember that Jesus' teachings are worthy of respect, even if some of his followers aren't.

Other people's god's,there is only one. God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

rahma · Dec 13, 2004

The birthday monkey would like to wish you a happy birthday gaijin178.

InnerPhyre · Dec 13, 2004

You cannot "deconvert" from anything. You can only convert to something else. It's entirely possible to be a Christian and then convert to Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, etc.

Illuminatus · Dec 13, 2004

In that case, I converted from Christianity to a mild form of agnosticism.

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