Venom[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]X is just someone's parody of the real VenomFangX. Unfortunately he really is an idiot.
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Evolutionists will try to disprove this
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No he didn't.
That's a joke account, the person created it to post videos by VenomFangX (note the second n) because VFX wasn't allowing people to rate or comment or something like that.
EDIT: What liquified said.
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The city planners of Washington D.C. were satanists! aha!
hmmm... naw, this isn't a political thread.
I will enjoy reading this whole thread.
hmmm... naw, this isn't a political thread.
I will enjoy reading this whole thread.
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off topic, kind of...
The video he has on his homesite seems to discuss genetics well (not my field, but he seems knowledgeable). Someone tell me if it is accurate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKb1LXxKNHY
... just watch out fot the bears
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First of all, I am not going to defend the video. It was, needless to say, very juvenile and inflammatory. An easy target. There are very many better constructed arguments opposing evolution on the web, in books, and on video. When you see stuff like this video, it basically undermines the efforts of all the others no matter how valid they may be scientifically.
And there are scientifically valid arguments opposing evolution. For sure, much of science is indeed black and white. Explanation can be directly derived from observation. But there are also a lot of areas that science explores that cannot be laid out in black and white terms, for various reasons. One being that first hand observation is not possible. Such is the case with evolution. And so, the available evidence must be, and is subject to interpretation. In the case of evolution, a large amount of speculation is supported by a tiny amount of evidence. Do you realize that the total amount of fossilized remains discovered to date that evolutionists use to construct all these various human ancestors would fit into a coffin? Many of these pieces consist of merely a tooth, or a part of a jaw, or a part of a pelvic bone, most not related to the others. I find it amazing that these guys are able to construct whole skeletons when all they have is a tooth.
The evidence is all the same, it's just a matter of how it's interpreted and what biases are brought to the table. You guys decry the relatively small (but growing) number of scientists who are reexamining the evidence from a creation viewpoint as being biased, and they may be. But the same is true for the vast number of evolutionists. Evolution is all that schools and universities have taught for over a hundred years so it is natural that these guys are biased toward it. Are they right just because there's more of them?
But hey, I really didn't intend to get into the evolution debate with this post. Suffice to say that you look at it with your blinders on and I look at it with mine on.
My intention was to post on your responses to LuvAslan's comments about Satan. Being Christian, I do of course see where she is coming from. The Bible does say that Satan is the "prince of this world," that he is devious, he is wily, and he is a liar. No doubt, regardless of whether you believe he exists or not, you have surely heard this. What does "prince of this world" mean? Well, from a Biblical sense, it means that he has great influence in the world. Granted, many of you will not recognize this influence because, quite frankly, it's just not the kind of thing you pay attention to.
So how great is the devil's influence? How does the devil's influence manifest itself? The Biblical answer may be quite shocking to some of you. Anything and everything that keeps one from putting the desire to please God at the top of one's goals in life comes as the result of the devil's influence. That is the devil's goal; to draw your focus away from God. And it really doesn't matter to the devil what your focus is on, just as long as it's not on God. Of course, if you're not pleasing God, you've got trouble ahead, at least according to the Bible.
Potent stuff, huh. It's much easier to say the devil doesn't exist isn't it. Easier to say God doesn't exist either. That way you don't have to think about the consequences of not being devoted to him.
But go with me here for just a second. Just suppose the devil does exist. The Bible says he does and is fairly detailed as to his characteristics (presumptuous, proud, powerful, wicked, malignant, subtle,deceitful, fierce and cruel), so let's just say he does exist for the sake of discussion. What kind of tactics do you think the devil would employ in leading people away from God? I can think of a few.
First and foremost, I think he would try to convince people that God doesn't exist. Removing God from the equation removes the "problem" of our being subject and accountable to a higher authority. That would leave men accountable only to themselves. It would leave men free to invent their own moral code, which through the years has proven to be quite flexible. But how would he achieve this? Let's see, one way would be to help men come up with an explanation for the existence of man on this earth that doesn't require God; that would go a long way wouldn't it.
He would try to convince people that God's Word is not trustworthy. He would say "Did God say that? That can't be true, can it?" He would use that tactic to get people to think that some particular thing is not a sin. He would use it to make people think there is no such thing as hell. He would use that kind of tactic to make people believe they have no need for Jesus. Etc. Etc. His influence in this manner is far and wide.
He would try to convince people that he himself does not exist. After all, if he doesn't exist, what is there to be afraid of.
He would try to introduce an attitude of tolerance toward practices that God has forbidden. He would promote the rise in popularity of "religions" that are not Christ-centered. He's not against religion, except when it leads to Christ. He would also try to get Christians to squabbling among themselves over trivial aspects of the faith such that their objective of leading people to Christ got lost in the shuffle.
All of this would be accomplished very subtly and patiently, through gradual trends in culture to create an atmosphere in which it seems reasonable to exclude God from one's daily life, if not objectively, then by simple omission. You just don't think about God or pleasing him. All of this would be accomplished by the simple interjection of a thought here, an idea there. The Bible says the devil is a very powerful being, and has the power to work within the thought processes of the individual as well as those of the collective society.
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." Eph. 6:12
I think it is reasonable to think that "if the devil did exist," he would operate in this manner. Is this worth thinking about? Does any of it ring true as you look at the world today? I hope you will give it some serious consideration.
And there are scientifically valid arguments opposing evolution. For sure, much of science is indeed black and white. Explanation can be directly derived from observation. But there are also a lot of areas that science explores that cannot be laid out in black and white terms, for various reasons. One being that first hand observation is not possible. Such is the case with evolution. And so, the available evidence must be, and is subject to interpretation. In the case of evolution, a large amount of speculation is supported by a tiny amount of evidence. Do you realize that the total amount of fossilized remains discovered to date that evolutionists use to construct all these various human ancestors would fit into a coffin? Many of these pieces consist of merely a tooth, or a part of a jaw, or a part of a pelvic bone, most not related to the others. I find it amazing that these guys are able to construct whole skeletons when all they have is a tooth.
The evidence is all the same, it's just a matter of how it's interpreted and what biases are brought to the table. You guys decry the relatively small (but growing) number of scientists who are reexamining the evidence from a creation viewpoint as being biased, and they may be. But the same is true for the vast number of evolutionists. Evolution is all that schools and universities have taught for over a hundred years so it is natural that these guys are biased toward it. Are they right just because there's more of them?
But hey, I really didn't intend to get into the evolution debate with this post. Suffice to say that you look at it with your blinders on and I look at it with mine on.
My intention was to post on your responses to LuvAslan's comments about Satan. Being Christian, I do of course see where she is coming from. The Bible does say that Satan is the "prince of this world," that he is devious, he is wily, and he is a liar. No doubt, regardless of whether you believe he exists or not, you have surely heard this. What does "prince of this world" mean? Well, from a Biblical sense, it means that he has great influence in the world. Granted, many of you will not recognize this influence because, quite frankly, it's just not the kind of thing you pay attention to.
So how great is the devil's influence? How does the devil's influence manifest itself? The Biblical answer may be quite shocking to some of you. Anything and everything that keeps one from putting the desire to please God at the top of one's goals in life comes as the result of the devil's influence. That is the devil's goal; to draw your focus away from God. And it really doesn't matter to the devil what your focus is on, just as long as it's not on God. Of course, if you're not pleasing God, you've got trouble ahead, at least according to the Bible.
Potent stuff, huh. It's much easier to say the devil doesn't exist isn't it. Easier to say God doesn't exist either. That way you don't have to think about the consequences of not being devoted to him.
But go with me here for just a second. Just suppose the devil does exist. The Bible says he does and is fairly detailed as to his characteristics (presumptuous, proud, powerful, wicked, malignant, subtle,deceitful, fierce and cruel), so let's just say he does exist for the sake of discussion. What kind of tactics do you think the devil would employ in leading people away from God? I can think of a few.
First and foremost, I think he would try to convince people that God doesn't exist. Removing God from the equation removes the "problem" of our being subject and accountable to a higher authority. That would leave men accountable only to themselves. It would leave men free to invent their own moral code, which through the years has proven to be quite flexible. But how would he achieve this? Let's see, one way would be to help men come up with an explanation for the existence of man on this earth that doesn't require God; that would go a long way wouldn't it.
He would try to convince people that God's Word is not trustworthy. He would say "Did God say that? That can't be true, can it?" He would use that tactic to get people to think that some particular thing is not a sin. He would use it to make people think there is no such thing as hell. He would use that kind of tactic to make people believe they have no need for Jesus. Etc. Etc. His influence in this manner is far and wide.
He would try to convince people that he himself does not exist. After all, if he doesn't exist, what is there to be afraid of.
He would try to introduce an attitude of tolerance toward practices that God has forbidden. He would promote the rise in popularity of "religions" that are not Christ-centered. He's not against religion, except when it leads to Christ. He would also try to get Christians to squabbling among themselves over trivial aspects of the faith such that their objective of leading people to Christ got lost in the shuffle.
All of this would be accomplished very subtly and patiently, through gradual trends in culture to create an atmosphere in which it seems reasonable to exclude God from one's daily life, if not objectively, then by simple omission. You just don't think about God or pleasing him. All of this would be accomplished by the simple interjection of a thought here, an idea there. The Bible says the devil is a very powerful being, and has the power to work within the thought processes of the individual as well as those of the collective society.
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." Eph. 6:12
I think it is reasonable to think that "if the devil did exist," he would operate in this manner. Is this worth thinking about? Does any of it ring true as you look at the world today? I hope you will give it some serious consideration.
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No, there aren't.
That is a lie.
Um...no, Evolution is in all the schools for the hundred years or so because it's been confirmed for those hundred years or so. Why would they be biased towards something that would make them famous for disproving it?
So far I see you saying a lot of nothing.
Except you haven't shown that we have blinders.
What does this have to do with anything in the topic?
Getting you to write this?
Nothing you have said is worth thinking about, because you haven't said anything.
Take your evangelisation and put it where it belongs. In the GA forum.
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Dal M.
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No, because that's not true and hasn't been since before the 1920s. Check out DalM's site as well as this one and you'll find that the amount of remains would completely fill up at least a 1 car garage.
Much like your coffin urban legend you seem to be repeating another Creationist tale meant to evoke Nebraska man (which was actually never taken seriously by scientists). Some finds are a tooth, or part of a jaw, or part of a skull, but sometimes it's a whole skull, or large complete bones or nearly complete skeletons like Turkana Boy.
Fossil hominids aren't the result of "a tooth" and a lot of imagination. Some of them are astoundingly complete.
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Okay. So you remember that the dwarves in the story were in total denial of the evidence staring them in the face?
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So, what is that thing supposed to be? Is it human?No, because that's not true and hasn't been since before the 1920s. Check out DalM's site as well as this one and you'll find that the amount of remains would completely fill up at least a 1 car garage.
Much like your coffin urban legend you seem to be repeating another Creationist tale meant to evoke Nebraska man (which was actually never taken seriously by scientists). Some finds are a tooth, or part of a jaw, or part of a skull, but sometimes it's a whole skull, or large complete bones or nearly complete skeletons like Turkana Boy.
Fossil hominids aren't the result of "a tooth" and a lot of imagination. Some of them are astoundingly complete.
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I've had dad on iggy forever, thanks for letting me know he asked.
Here you go dad, KNM WT 15000 The Turkana Boy.
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Elduran
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Well, this thread was certainly interesting, in that it let us know that LuvAslan is too... (tried to think of another word, but can't) lazy to actually do some independent research. If she did, she'd realise that the video in question was full of lies, gross misunderstandings and heinous misrepresentations of the theory of evolution.
Before you post something and call it a good video, have the common decency to at least understand what you're posting and be prepared to discuss it! Not everyone here is a sycophant ready to lap up every creationist propaganda video posted.
Before you post something and call it a good video, have the common decency to at least understand what you're posting and be prepared to discuss it! Not everyone here is a sycophant ready to lap up every creationist propaganda video posted.
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They actually appear to be the same person. and Luv Aslans video link is on both pages.Tge original poster of the video is VenomFaNgX.
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Everybody got Poe'd bigtime.
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WhiteMageGirl
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Creationists have redefined tooth as a near compltete skeleton. They weren't lying they are just misleading in their definitions.No, because that's not true and hasn't been since before the 1920s. Check out DalM's site as well as this one and you'll find that the amount of remains would completely fill up at least a 1 car garage.
Much like your coffin urban legend you seem to be repeating another Creationist tale meant to evoke Nebraska man (which was actually never taken seriously by scientists). Some finds are a tooth, or part of a jaw, or part of a skull, but sometimes it's a whole skull, or large complete bones or nearly complete skeletons like Turkana Boy.
Fossil hominids aren't the result of "a tooth" and a lot of imagination. Some of them are astoundingly complete.
Evolution - monkey giving birth to a homosapien
Tooth - nearly complete skeleton
Proof(evolution) - Nothing will do, ever. see AiG statement of Faith.
Proof(creationism) - genesis 1:1
High preist of Evolution - Evolutionary Biologist
Evolutionist - Anyone who thinks Evolution is possible
Satanist- Anyone who believes Evolution is possible
Not once(in terms of mutation) - 99.9% of the time.
Intelliegent design - classic creationism
Atheist - monkey giving birth to a homosapien
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