Claim a win and flee the interview
You mean I gave up waiting.
Even the most optimistic poster cannot say there is any evidence for the step from non life to life ( which is called abiogenesis. Not where, when, how or what happened.
So The ONLY other entry point science has for a hypothesis is a structure for the first cell, and a process for it that can be tested which starts with non life and ends in life. That presupposes knowing the structure of the first genome.
I asked many times , for detail of that structure , knowing it doesn’t exist.
I gave up waiting for the answer.
Just as bad there is no known process detailed to the present minimum cell either, so neither the start point nor the evolutionary journey is known. Science knows little or nothing About origin of life or evolution at cellular structure level.
I have always said , I might believe iit to if some evidence or credible structure or process were defined
We are a long way even from a valid hypothesis.
It’s not the research I object to - that is worthwhile - it is the wilful deceit on present status leading to such as Dawkins claiming it is a fact, and sadly the world believes him because the cacophony of voices repeats the myth.
it is not the idea it should be researched even the wild speculation , or even scientist faith in it - people have to think big to jump barriers , only to fall flat on their faces. That’s life. So long as they separate what they know from what they believe.
What I object to is misrepresentation of it by so many people -so that such as Frank robert believes passionately that science knows far more than it does.
I blame the scientists not Frank for that.
I pointed out elsewhere how all this happened. Ive studied it all my life,
This is the reality:
In the optimistic world of the fifties / sixties science assumed that it would find blobs of jelly in increasing sophistication from very simple in increasing sophistication to complex life .
It was a very reasonable assumption at the time.
but it isn’t any more, and science hasn’t owned up!
Sadly and increasingly reality kicked in.
DNA sequencing commenced, and the horrendous complexity of even the simplest bacteria was found, also the chemical pathways of cells were discovered and developed that showed they are many orders of magnitude more complex than our most complicated chemical factories.
And nobody now has any idea how they evolved.
Attempts to model the simplest bacteria chemistry function took many hours and hundreds of computers operating . Stripping the cell down below hundreds of genes was a fail.
I have a big book on molecular cell biology next to my desk Detailing essential pathways. Each page is a maze of comple ity, It’s far too big and thick to fit on my bookshelf. I do not think the public has any clue how complex a cell is, or how little is known of how it came to be.
So nobody can now have the optimism of the early days of miller Urey, which is irrelevant in the scheme of the known comple ity, yet science never owned up, and still science pretends it is getting closer!
it hasnt owned up to how far Away it is from even basic understanding,
It still tries to pretend it is a fact - despite no evidence, structure , or valid hypothesis
it is a dreadful indictment on the scientists for a mass con trick.
They May believe it, but it is not only not “ fact” , they don’t even have a testable structure or a valid hypothesus
they should come clean.