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Other then the most simple single celled organisms everything is there because it evolved. So evolution for the most part has to work with what it created.
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Freodin
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Err.... yes? Evolution creates... the next generation in this game of life. And that even is true for the most simple single celled organism.
Or did you want to state that evolution has to work with what something (-one) else created?
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GrowingSmaller
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AV have you heard of the "stucturalist" Kauffman, and his computerised Random Boolean Networks which have been proposed as models for genetic molecular networks?
He has written "Most biologists, heritors of the Darwinian tradition, suppose that the order of ontogeny is due to the grinding away of a molecular Rube Goldberg machine, slapped together piece by piece by evolution. I present a countering thesis: most of the beautiful order seen in ontogeny is spontaneous, a natural expression of the stunning self organisation that abounds in very complex regulatory networks".
Quoted in this book.
He has written "Most biologists, heritors of the Darwinian tradition, suppose that the order of ontogeny is due to the grinding away of a molecular Rube Goldberg machine, slapped together piece by piece by evolution. I present a countering thesis: most of the beautiful order seen in ontogeny is spontaneous, a natural expression of the stunning self organisation that abounds in very complex regulatory networks".
Quoted in this book.
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I think anyone with any logic are any real understanding of biology has already concluded evolution as fact.
A great example of evolution right in front of our eyes within our lifetime is the flu strain. Evolution of influenza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's funny how there are some people out there will get flu shots throughout their lives and still not admit evolution as fact. For science/shots have to keep up with the evolution of the influenza.
A great example of evolution right in front of our eyes within our lifetime is the flu strain. Evolution of influenza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's funny how there are some people out there will get flu shots throughout their lives and still not admit evolution as fact. For science/shots have to keep up with the evolution of the influenza.
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Freodin
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But... but... but... it's still influenza! It hasn't changed into cats or unicorns or university professors! That's only microevolution! We want to see viruses give birth to cats and unicorns and university professors (at the same time!) before we start to accept the religious idea of macroevolution!
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It's still the flu.
And if you're sincere about your tagline, your first sentence -- the one about logic -- doesn't make sense.
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Yep, still here to to it's ability to adapt, change. i.e. evolve.
uh oh, another grammar policeman here to bring up typing errors to avoid a legitimate response!
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Thanksfor asking. Not that I know of. I am theist, at ther moment based on the Koran. Regards, GS.
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So does creationism, so please don't call what we predict 'religion' and what you predict 'science' and expect us to agree.
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VirOptimus
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No, thats not how it works and thats not a truthful statement from you. You have been told many times how science works, your wordgames is frankly quite silly.
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Mr Strawberry
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Oh look, you've managed to shoehorn one of your favourite fallacies in where in doesn't belong again. One would almost think you were doing it purpose to be annoying. Of course, that wouldn't be something you would do deliberately, repeating a false accusation you've had patiently explained to you many times before, just as if it were brand new to you.
Maybe you've learnt more from your hero Hovind than you let on.
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This is an outright lie. Look up Lamarkian evolution. The idea is that if, say, a mouse lost it's tail after it was bitten off by a cat, then any offspring that the kouse then produced would also lack a tail. However, this is demonstratably false. The change in the mouse (the loss of the tail by cat-attack) is NOT presented as evidence for evolution.
Changes caused by evolution are easily recognisable. They are changes in the frequency of alleles (variations of a gene) of many generations.
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