Evolution

[juvenissun]

The question (which was yours) was included as a quote in my message.

I assumed that since you wrote the response, you would know what you were talking about. I think this is a fair and correct assumption.

Well, I don't. I need to go back to check on what was I responded to. Sometimes, I am too lazy to do that. (after one corrected too many lousy writings from students, that is one of the consequence)

 

[Molal]

Well, I don't. I need to go back to check on what was I responded to. Sometimes, I am too lazy to do that. (after one corrected too many lousy writings from students, that is one of the consequence)

Ahhh, that's ok. No worries!

 

[Bushido216]

You try one. This is a challenge to you.
Otherwise, you take your words back.

Try one what? An observation?

Fine. Starlight.

I win.

btw, the Preacher emote makes you look pompous and arrogant.

 

[juvenissun]

Try one what? An observation?

Fine. Starlight.

I win.

btw, the Preacher emote makes you look pompous and arrogant.

What is about starlight? Why does it make you win?

 

[Technocrat2010]

What is about starlight? Why does it make you win?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/distance.html

Epic win.

As for you, my friend...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

By tossing out the 'facts' of Genesis one can dispose of the 'truths' as well, and the devil wins another one. To learn what God intends for us to learn we should study the word as it is written, as if it were literally true, even if we don't accept it as 'fact'. Otherwise we cannot learn the great truths of God.

owg

 

[Molal]

By tossing out the 'facts' of Genesis one can dispose of the 'truths' as well, and the devil wins another one. To learn what God intends for us to learn we should study the word as it is written, as if it were literally true, even if we don't accept it as 'fact'. Otherwise we cannot learn the great truths of God.

owg

I disagree, by taking genesis as literal, you make God out to be a liar. God created the earth, the earth exhibits greater age than the literal interpretation of genesis.

I think you make a fundamental error by equating a literal meaning of genesis with inerrancy. The two are not the same.

This webpage (http://www.itanakh.org/index.htm) provides an excellent source on understanding biblical text in their original context and why they were wrote the way they were.

 

[juvenissun]

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/distance.html

Where does the Scripture say anything about starlight?

 

[Technocrat2010]

Where does the Scripture say anything about starlight?

Where does scripture say anything about cellphones?

 

[juvenissun]

Where does scripture say anything about cellphones?

nowhere.
What is your argument? kid!

 

[Technocrat2010]

nowhere.
What is your argument? kid!

My argument is that your statement is as unrelated to this topic as is mine, kiddo.

 

[Bushido216]

Where does the Scripture say anything about starlight?

You've managed to wildly miss the point.

If the earth is only 7000 years old, give or take, then we shouldn't see any light from any light source more than 7000 light years away, give or take.

Unless you're an OEC, in which case nevermind.

 

[Bushido216]

nowhere.
What is your argument? kid!

The point is that just because the Bible does not make note of a thing, does not mean that it isn't relevant or extant in the universe.

 

[Bushido216]

By tossing out the 'facts' of Genesis one can dispose of the 'truths' as well, and the devil wins another one. To learn what God intends for us to learn we should study the word as it is written, as if it were literally true, even if we don't accept it as 'fact'. Otherwise we cannot learn the great truths of God.

owg

But when the observed facts of our environment contradict a literal fact from Genesis then...?