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Evolution vs God ?

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What do they mean by "kind"? Are Humans and apes different "kinds"? If so, here is proof of two different "kinds" descending from common ancestors.

ERVs - Evidence for the Evolutionary Model

descending from common ancestors according to who ? where ? when? - supposedly the old monkey hoax still going around - just goes to show pseudo evolution scientists and hoaxes and cons and fakes and frauds die hard and refuse correction - twinc
 
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Is that Ken Ham's new terrible, dishonest, deceptively edited movie? Where he interviews people and deliberately leaves out their words and twists everything out of context?

Something like:

- "What evidence is there for evolution?"

- "Well there's a lot of evidence, for example we have *lists a whole bunch of evidence*"

A few minutes of editing later:

- "What evidence is there for evolution?"

- "Well there's a lot of evidence... *cut*"

- "See, there's no evidence!"

of course as the video says "we can say anything we like" except "Intelligent Design"/Intelligent Designer - twinc
 
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Why did your god concept wait millions of years after creating fish before it started creating birds?

according to you and yours - according to me and mine they were created together and perfect in an instant on the fifth day of creation - twinc
 
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read about the missing link - twinc

Unresponsive. No link supplied. Read my link. Are humans and chimps the same "kind", or not? ERVs - Evidence for the Evolutionary Model

The funny little squiggle at the end of that sentence is known as a "question mark", and denotes what we call a "question". It is customary, and polite, to respond with what we call an "answer".
 
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Unresponsive. Read the link. Are humans and chimps the same "kind", or not?
No.

Humans are mankind.

Chimpanzees are Pankind.

According to the online etymology dictionary, the term "chimpanzee" comes from a language where it is an ape:
1738, from a Bantu language of Angola (cf. Tshiluba kivili-chimpenze "ape"). Short form chimp first attested 1877.
And from the same source, the online etymology dictionary, apes were suspected of mimicking man, leading to they perhaps figuratively being referred to as atheists:
Apes were noted in medieval times for mimicry of human action, hence, perhaps, the other figurative use of the word, to mean "a fool."
So it's kind of a weird scenario.

Chimpanzees are ape wannabees, apes are mankind wannabees, mankind (subset: atheists, evolutionists, scientists) are ape has-beens.

On paper.
 
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No.

Humans are mankind.

Chimpanzees are Pankind.

According to the online etymology dictionary, the term "chimpanzee" comes from a language where it is an ape:
And from the same source, the online etymology dictionary, apes were suspected of mimicking man, leading to they perhaps figuratively being referred to as atheists:
So it's kind of a weird scenario.

Chimpanzees are ape wannabees, apes are mankind wannabees, mankind (subset: atheists, evolutionists, scientists) are ape has-beens.

On paper.
Then ERVs prove that one kind evolved into a different kind. Thanks.
 
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your saying so does not make it so but keep repeating it long enough and often enough and ......... twinc


Your correct. The fact that it is true makes it so. But keep thinking that saying "nuh uh" is some sort of refutation.
 
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descending from common ancestors according to who ? where ? when? - supposedly the old monkey hoax still going around - just goes to show pseudo evolution scientists and hoaxes and cons and fakes and frauds die hard and refuse correction - twinc

ERVs - Evidence for the Evolutionary Model

Click. Read. Come back to me with any questions.
 
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not at all - the fish in question has not and does not evolve into a bird and it does not fly like a bird but glides like a glider aeroplane even though it is misnamed as Bombay duck it is still a fish - twinc
There are birds that glide;
Albatrosses travel huge distances with two techniques used by many long-winged seabirds, dynamic soaring and slope soaring. Dynamic soaring involves repeatedly rising into wind and descending downwind thus gaining energy from the vertical wind gradient. The bird descends with the wind accelerating, then turns head to the slower wind over the water, climbing up to just before stall speed, the turn downwind again descending to accelerate with the higher altitude stronger wind and gravity. And so on. This maneuver allows the bird to cover almost 1000 km a day, without flapping its wings once.
source Albatross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FYI there are sixty-four species of flying fish and none of them are called a Bombay duck

Here's the Sailfin flyingfish
source wikimedia.org
Sailfin_flyingfish.jpg



And the Bombay Duck, Also called bummalo, Bombay Duck is a marine lizardfish
source http://www.bombay-duck.co.uk/background.htm
harpodon.gif

As you can see the fin structure is completely different, the Sailfin wing is oreintated horizontally and the Bombay Duck fin is oreintated vertically.
And the surface area of the fins of the Bombay Duck in relation to the body of the Bombay Duck is a lot smaller than that of the Sailfin flyingfish.


You evidently don't understand the mechanism of flight. Jet aeroplane and a propeller aeroplane both fly for the same reason that a glider aeroplane flys becuase the wing provides lift.
A bird can flap its wings till the cows come home but if the birds wings don't provide lift the bird will not fly, this is the same lift that the wings of a flying fish provide.
Your argument is wrong because it would be like saying glider aeroplanes are not planes because they don't fly like jet planes or prop planes because they don't use jet engines or propeller engines for flight.
So you are wrong there is no difference in flight and my claim that i made still stands unrefuted.
 
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There are birds that glide;
Albatrosses travel huge distances with two techniques used by many long-winged seabirds, dynamic soaring and slope soaring. Dynamic soaring involves repeatedly rising into wind and descending downwind thus gaining energy from the vertical wind gradient. The bird descends with the wind accelerating, then turns head to the slower wind over the water, climbing up to just before stall speed, the turn downwind again descending to accelerate with the higher altitude stronger wind and gravity. And so on. This maneuver allows the bird to cover almost 1000 km a day, without flapping its wings once.
source Albatross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FYI there are sixty-four species of flying fish and none of them are called a Bombay duck

Here's the Sailfin flyingfish
source wikimedia.org
Sailfin_flyingfish.jpg



And the Bombay Duck, Also called bummalo, Bombay Duck is a marine lizardfish
source http://www.bombay-duck.co.uk/background.htm
harpodon.gif

As you can see the fin structure is completely different, the Sailfin wing is oreintated horizontally and the Bombay Duck fin is oreintated vertically.
And the surface area of the fins of the Bombay Duck in relation to the body of the Bombay Duck is a lot smaller than that of the Sailfin flyingfish.


You evidently don't understand the mechanism of flight. Jet aeroplane and a propeller aeroplane both fly for the same reason that a glider aeroplane flys becuase the wing provides lift.
A bird can flap its wings till the cows come home but if the birds wings don't provide lift the bird will not fly, this is the same lift that the wings of a flying fish provide.
Your argument is wrong because it would be like saying glider aeroplanes are not planes because they don't fly like jet planes or prop planes because they don't use jet engines or propeller engines for flight.
So you are wrong there is no difference in flight and my claim that i made still stands unrefuted.

whatever - still only a fish and not a duck or any other bird or bat or bee or butterfly or locust or insect that flies and is not a bird - twinc
 
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Unresponsive. No link supplied. Read my link. Are humans and chimps the same "kind", or not? ERVs - Evidence for the Evolutionary Model

The funny little squiggle at the end of that sentence is known as a "question mark", and denotes what we call a "question". It is customary, and polite, to respond with what we call an "answer".

be that as it may and is,the missing link is still missing - because there is no link - twinc
 
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