Evolution Versus Devolution

[Cromulent]

if we are not perfect, then we are not perfect at studying anything ever, because we are not perfect. If we spend time on studying a subject, we can accumulate data, but not necessarily accuracy in data. You can conduct thousands of scientific tests & studies, but because we are not perfect, the quality of the accuracy in those tests has the possibility of contaminating those tests.

So who knows more about what the theory of evolution says, you, or the people who work and study with it on a daily basis?

 

[JoeyArnold]

So who knows more about what the theory of evolution says, you, or the people who work and study with it on a daily basis?

I am not saying that evolution is wrong. Evolution could be right. However, some people like to say that there are no other alternatives.

 

[Cromulent]

I am not saying that evolution is wrong. Evolution could be right. However, some people like to say that there are no other alternatives.

We're not talking about that. We're talking about how you keep saying that evolution in a biological sense means "things are getting better", when you've repeatedly been told by people who know what they're talking about that this is not what evolution means at all.

 

[JoeyArnold]

We're not talking about that. We're talking about how you keep saying that evolution in a biological sense means "things are getting better", when you've repeatedly been told by people who know what they're talking about that this is not what evolution means at all.

There are three definitions out there for evolution. There is the one view of how things are getting better. The other perspective swears that things are getting worse. However, I think you guys want to cling to a third option that states that things are not getting better or worse.

 

[AV1611VET]

There are three definitions out there for evolution. There is the one view of how things are getting better. The other perspective swears that things are getting worse. However, I think you guys want to cling to a third option that states that things are not getting better or worse.

... Isn't evolution supposed to be neutral?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

There are three definitions out there for evolution. There is the one view of how things are getting better. The other perspective swears that things are getting worse. However, I think you guys want to cling to a third option that states that things are not getting better or worse.

You missed the whole point on evolution yet again.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Are things getter better, worse, neutral, or something else?

 

[AV1611VET]

Are things getter better, worse, neutral, or something else?

Evolution is [in] Neutral.

That means that it is neither in Park, nor Drive ... thus it is rolling downhill.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Are things getter better, worse, neutral, or something else?

Whether they are or not has nothing to do with evolution in a strictly biological sense, the only definition of evolution that has ever been challenged.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Evolution is [in] Neutral.

That means that it is neither in Park, nor Drive ... thus it is rolling downhill.

why not up hill?

 

[AV1611VET]

why not up hill?

Because evolution believes in gravity, not Intelligent Pushing.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Because evolution believes in gravity, not Intelligent Pushing.

going downhill is not a negative thing? it is still a neutral thing?

 

[AV1611VET]

going downhill is not a negative thing? it is still a neutral thing?

It depends on what's at the bottom ...

 

[JoeyArnold]

It depends on what's at the bottom ...

what is at the bottom or end or future for all humans?

 

[AV1611VET]

what is at the bottom or end or future for all humans?

For us Christians, it's the Judgement Seat of Christ; and for the rest ... well ... it's the Great White Throne Judgement, where even Mother Nature won't stand to be.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

For us Christians, it's the Judgement Seat of Christ; and for the rest ... well ... it's the Great White Throne Judgement, where even Mother Nature won't stand to be.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

For us non-Christians, its to improve the quality of this life we all are living now. Instead of waiting to die and go to heaven where everything will be perfect.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Christians do not want to improve their quality of this life?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Christians do not want to improve their quality of this life?

Not if their ultimate dream is to go to heaven. Why care about this life? It doesn't last for eternity... That's what I get from them.

 

[AV1611VET]

For us non-Christians, its to improve the quality of this life we all are living now. Instead of waiting to die and go to heaven where everything will be perfect.

Methinks some people need to prioritize.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not if their ultimate dream is to go to heaven. Why care about this life? It doesn't last for eternity... That's what I get from them.

Would you polish brass on a sinking ship?

But for the record, improving the quality of life is one of my two reasons God gifts us scientists.