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Evolution Versus Devolution

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JoeyArnold said:
you guys are full of jokes.... writing only a few words is a lot better than paragraphs.... everybody have short attention spans..... everybody has ADD.... i cannot tell if you guys really think i am a bot... or you guys are just making fun of me for being so different..... the universe is falling apart..... oh and i am suppose to not end this with a question mark and end it with an explanation point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nahhhh i cant end this with that.... and this will not prove that i am a bot or not a bot.... at least you guys will either say that i am still a bot or some kind of twelve year old...

I actually think that diatribe thoroughly proves you're not a bot.
 
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you guys are full of jokes.... writing only a few words is a lot better than paragraphs.... everybody have short attention spans..... everybody has ADD.... i cannot tell if you guys really think i am a bot... or you guys are just making fun of me for being so different..... the universe is falling apart..... oh and i am suppose to not end this with a question mark and end it with an explanation point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nahhhh i cant end this with that.... and this will not prove that i am a bot or not a bot.... at least you guys will either say that i am still a bot or some kind of twelve year old...

If the discussion is about whether or not you are a bot then it has probably gone off the rails.
 
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Cromulent said:
I think it does. I genuinely wasn't having a go at him, I was just curious (and perhaps a little frustrated)

Same here. I legitimately thought he was probably a bot, given the single-sentence, irrelevant replies.

His replies reminded me of cleverbot.
 
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We are so closed minded as humans. We have our minds made up. What is worse is that we pretend that we are open to critique. When you call somebody a troll, you are refusing to learn. You are refusing to grow. You are refusing to reconsider your views on things. When you call somebody a troll, you are telling the person that they are wrong, that they are making havoc, that they do not know what they are talking about, and that you are in fact smarter than that person. When you call somebody a troll, you not only damage the individual, but you also damage yourself even more because you are basically saying that you know everything or that you know enough to know that the other person is misguided, ill-informed, & off base in too many ways. It is a dangerous path to tread. It is a bad habit that leads to cancer and death. What is even worse is that most of us are unaware that certain mentalities are killing us as humans in this path of devolution, since things do get worse. It is also very sad when people pretend to think that evolution does not mean that things are suppose to be getting better.
 
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Joey, have you stopped to consider that it's possible that you are the one who is wrong about evolution, and not all of the actual scientists and well-informed laypeople in this thread?

You've been told many times about what the theory of evolution actually entails. The fact that you are still repeating the same mistakes as you did when you first registered suggests one of several things:

1. You are not physically capable of comprehending what you have been told. (not intelligent, or a bot)
2. You are being willfully ignorant and deliberately not taking it on board because it conflicts with your preconceived ideas
3. You are fully aware of what is going on, and you are pretending you aren't just to be annoying (a troll)
4. You are too arrogant to accept that you were initially mistaken.
 
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We are so closed minded as humans. We have our minds made up.
Speak for yourself.

What is worse is that we pretend that we are open to critique. When you call somebody a troll, you are refusing to learn.
Unless, of course, they are a troll.

You are refusing to grow. You are refusing to reconsider your views on things. When you call somebody a troll, you are telling the person that they are wrong, that they are making havoc, that they do not know what they are talking about, and that you are in fact smarter than that person.
As is sometimes the case. But that's not what it means to call someone a troll. To accuse someone of trolling is to accuse them of a particular variety of Internet behaviour, namely, obfuscating genuine discussion with asinine garbage.

When you call somebody a troll, you not only damage the individual, but you also damage yourself even more because you are basically saying that you know everything or that you know enough to know that the other person is misguided, ill-informed, & off base in too many ways.
As is sometimes the case. Sometimes, the other person really is wrong. Sometimes, having genuinely evaluated your and their beliefs, your beliefs simply do stand up to scrutiny. Sometimes, when someone comes along and confronts your beliefs, they are the ones who're wrong.

It is a dangerous path to tread. It is a bad habit that leads to cancer and death.
'Hyperbole' is a word you should become accustomed with.

What is even worse is that most of us are unaware that certain mentalities are killing us as humans in this path of devolution, since things do get worse.
Mhm. Prove it, please.

It is also very sad when people pretend to think that evolution does not mean that things are suppose to be getting better.
Because it's not. We've explained why, thoroughly and exhaustively. You've yet to explain why you think evolution says anything of the sort.

You lambaste us for being close-minded, yet you can't fathom that it might just be you who's wrong, not us. Did that occur to you?
 
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what you guys are saying are opinions
Incidentally, earlier today, I posted this on my CF blog as a reminder for myself:
StickPrimo - A Comicstrip, or Something.

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because we are not perfect, we are not perfect at interpreting fact

So who do you think is better at interpreting facts pertaining to what the theory of evolution says?

The people on this thread who have studied evolution extensively, the people who developed the theory in the first place, the people who study biology full time, and the people who work with it on a daily basis as part of their career?

Or you?
 
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if we are not perfect, then we are not perfect at studying anything ever, because we are not perfect. If we spend time on studying a subject, we can accumulate data, but not necessarily accuracy in data. You can conduct thousands of scientific tests & studies, but because we are not perfect, the quality of the accuracy in those tests has the possibility of contaminating those tests.
 
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